Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Is it a master to test with XP?

2017-03-30 Thread Dennis Roczek
Jep. It is a test build for Windows XP and I have installed it ~4 days ago
and works like a charm (at least I haven't found any unusual)

Dennis
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[Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2017-03-30 Thread Michael Meeks
* Present:
+ Caolan, Heiko, Kendy, JanI, Miklos, Xisco, Michael M, Olivier,
  Stephan, Sophie, Christian, Norbert, Michael S, Bubli, Thorsten, Jan-Marek

* Completed Action Items:
+ GSoC mentor pokes for Bjoern & Michael (Thorsten)
+ dig further into Perugia travel & accommodation; really that hard ? 
(Bjoern)
[ Miklos found trains to go there, direct from one of the
  airports: Fumichino ]

* Pending Action Items:
 + look at old Duden extension to see if they use UWINAPI.DLL (Thorsten)
[ voluntered by Stephan – due end of month.
  Should we have a museum for such things on TDF infra ? (Michael) ]

* Release Engineering update (Christian)
+ 5.3.2 RC2
+ tagged yesterday – but forgot Mac signing patch.
+ Linux + Mac builds are up-loaded to pre-release server
+ Windows still building.
+ on-schedule again.
+ 5.3.3 RC1 – due April 25th.
+ 5.2.7 RC1
+ due April 11th - for the last 5.2 release
+ 5.4. builds / master
+ tested with VS 2015 toolchain
+ still (accidentally) compatible with WinXP (so far)
   + make it clear this is not deliberate (Norbert, Cloph)
+ Android & iOS Remote
+ pushed update, no extra screaming.
+ online (Michael)
+ should do a tag & up-load soon.

* Documentation (Olivier)
+ Patches added to HelpContents after translators reviewed the English
+ New pages coming for HC by community-Template Manager (Cat Vance)
+ Call for help to update guides
+ More work on Calc guide – updating it to the latest release
+ Patch to display navigation history in New Help (Fabio Biochetti)
+ working with Osvaldo
+ nice addition – can now navigate easily.
+ Internal tasks - Annual Report, community support
+ Documentation in Apache wiki: copyright  / legal issue

* UX Update (Heiko)
  + Bugzilla (topicUI) statistics
   249(249) (topicUI) bugs open, 473(473) (needsUXEval) needs to be 
evaluated by the UXteam
   + Updates:
   BZ changes   1 week1 month   3 months   12 months  
added  5(2)  12(3) 36(3)  493(-1) 
commented 36(-17)   194(11)   667(12)3593(-4) 
  removed  0(0)   1(-1) 8(-1)  39(0)  
 resolved  7(2)  20(1) 98(4)  217(6)  
   + top 10 contributors:
 Tietze, Heiko made 139 changes in 1 month, and 2258 changes in 1 year
 Thomas Lendo made 47 changes in 1 month, and 78 changes in 1 year
 Foote, V Stuart made 46 changes in 1 month, and 667 changes in 1 year
 Buovjaga made 37 changes in 1 month, and 365 changes in 1 year
 Faulí Tarazona, Xisco made 28 changes in 1 month, and 395 changes in 1 
year
 LibreTraining made 24 changes in 1 month, and 33 changes in 1 year
 Kainz, Andreas made 17 changes in 1 month, and 31 changes in 1 year
 *UNKNOWN* made 10 changes in 1 month, and 10 changes in 1 year
 Philips, Yousuf made 8 changes in 1 month, and 1284 changes in 1 year
 Aprax made 8 changes in 1 month, and 10 changes in 1 year

  + Extension to export the custom palette accompanied by a blog post
(all help is at the AOO wiki)
   + can we copy the content across ?
   + if it is a legal question → punt to later (Michael)
  + Will have a Design session in Rome regarding Bibliography
  + Color picker has now 10 rows by default
  + Reviews GsoC projects and looking forward the work to begin
  + Style-only toolbar is being discussed on Bugzilla

* Crashtest update (Caolan)
+ 1 import failure, 0 export failures
+ 190 coverity issues
+ coverity up-loads still timing out
+ Google / ossfuzz: 24 fuzzers active now, unchanged
+ not added any more tests – existing giving out enough noise
+ lots of horsepower: they are also testing for local leaks & hangs
 + previously ignoring those; lots in this category.
+ fast-hangs are more interesting than timeout – but fixing ...

* Hackfests (Bjoern)
+ next venues / suggestions
+ next week 31st of March: talk in Granada / Spain
+ Document Freedom Day (Xisco)
+ can you poke Italo to pre-announce it as/when confirmed ?
+ Added to https://www.libreoffice.org/events/ (Xisco)
+ Ladies who FOSS – Berlin
+ monthly now (Bubli)
+ April 20th the next one
+ Italian hack-fest coming up: 4 days May 27-30th
 + Perugia University
 + https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Hackfest/Perugia2017
 + will sponsor accommodation/food for 4 core hacker – need names
 + first names to be added there win.
+ event in Spain (Xisco)
+ will be in Malaga for Open conference in May
+ http://www.opensouthcode.org/conference/opensouthcode2017
+ an idea to do something.
+ Xisco giving a talk there too - be good to meet up.
+ Essen 

[Libreoffice-qa] Minutes of the Design Hangout: 2017-Mar-30

2017-03-30 Thread Heiko Tietze
+ MEETING TIME IS 13:00 CEST / 11am UTC DURING THE SUMMER AND BEGINNING 
FROM NEXT WEEK +

Present: Eric, Thibaut, Jay, Heiko, Kendy, Tomaz

 * New meeting time as DST begins?
   + Thursday 13:00 CEST / 11am UTC: voted +4/-1
   => New meeting time is 11am UTC
 
 * LibOCon 27.-29. Sep Rome
   + We will have a UX room 
   + do a design session to a specific topic?
   + mockup seesion (Jay)
 + Bibliography (first choice)
 + 3D dialog
 + Custom shapes
   + Share results from UE testting at Nantes (Eric)
 + also talk about redesign of features

 * LibO mascot
   + Introduce a unique identification beyond the logo that can be modified 
within constraints
 since our logo is fix and must not be changed (idea started at the BoD)
   + list of mascots: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mascot
   + Java: Duke https://kenai.com/projects/duke/pages/Home
 + Prototype for the idea (logo is the coffee icon, duke added later as the 
mascot)
   + SuSE: chameleon "geeko"
   + Mozilla: lizard, godzilla, tyrannosaurus (FF 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firefox#Trademark_and_logo)
   + Linux: tux https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tux
   + KDE: konqi https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Konqi
   + Krita: kiki https://krita.org/en/kiki/
   + GNU: GNU head https://www.gnu.org/graphics/agnuhead.en.html
   + mising a kitten under all the animals, like grumpy cat (Heiko)

   + Metaphors
 + worldwide product, make sure it works for all (Thibaut)
 + freedom, documents, open (Jay)
   + pideon / another bird?
   + or a more symbolic thing
 + superhero
 + crazy combination of superhero and animal (Thibaut)
 + something with edges to align with the logo (Heiko)
   + Process: internally ask for input on ML, later involve designers, e.g. OSD 
group
   + better we have some time to be creative (Thibaut)

 * Make LibreOffice design unique (Thibaut)
   + Ticket: https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106756
   + Previously mentioned in as 'Application Theme' GSoC project
 
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1J_aogLuQThqhvT0R2em27Vpew-SLAQgpH5TbNTgXPZM/edit
 + would be the solution to swtich from themed to "default"
   + generic theme update makes much sense, but that needs dev work as it is 
hard-coded (kendy)
 (SAL_USE_VCLPLUGIN=gen ./soffice to enable
  or SAL_NO_NWF=1 to still use the detected vclplugin but no native theming)
   + only way to introduce a new generic design is to make it working in 
parallel first
   + themes might be text based on Gtk (Jay); Gtk3 uses CSS for theming (Tomaz)
   + someone with development skills needs to look into the topic
   + wish to have all themes via CSS, or the like (Heiko)

 * Color
   + New default color palette 
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=87538
 + survey done, analyzed and comment included into the final layout
   + 
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/173uYSPE1TPaZdCL997YyQLllRt2xBIV4oD5M3Bjo7yU
   + finalization planned for the weekend
 + We have 1 grey scale, 1 basic colors, 3 light, and 4 dark now -> should 
we change to 
   8 rows by default (and have 1/1/3/3)? (Jay)
   + No idea why it's bad (Thibaut)
   + tonal.soc has 10 rows so better add one (1/1/4/4)?
   + having less colors is good was commented in the survey
   => go with 10 rows (https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/35902/)
   + Extension to export the custom palette done and blogged about
 + 
https://design.blog.documentfoundation.org/2017/03/29/libreoffice-extension-export-custom-palette/




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