[Libreoffice-qa] Minutes of ESC call 2017-08-03
* Present: + Olivier, Miklos, Jan-Marek, Cloph, Xisco, Armin, Heiko * Completed Action Items: * Pending Action Items: + https://wiki.docume ntfoundation.org/Development/ScreenshotsAtInstall + work out what a good idea is here (Kendy, Thorsten) + build a write-up of the differences cross-platform (Xisco) [ line-spacing, still on working on it ] + get access for Xisco for the TDF macs or buy a Mac for Xisco (Christian) [ not yet solved; Jan-Marek could send his Mac Mini, as it’s unused now ] + create redirect / transparent proxy so that we can use help.libreoffice.org directly even for the new stuff (Cloph) [ still pending ] * Release Engineering update (Christian) + 5.4.0 final + signing problem on Windows, probably anti-virus + may be also Windows installation service not running + 3-4 reports so far, might be related to the new feedback address + 5.3.5 final is out + 5.4.1 RC1 + next week + Android & iOS Remote + Android viewer + will promote next version from beta to final + Online * Tender oversight (Florian) + Nothing new on this, would be helpful to have volunteers devs around for this (Cloph) * Documentation (Olivier) + last week was development for SEO + same development also for help-online + tweaks on the URL, as discussed with Kendy + master LO: jumps to helponline directly + stable LO (5.3, 5.4): still the old site, will remove it in the long run + meetings with the doc team, some people are showing up + plan is to have a 6.0 introductury book at 6.0 launch-time + various help page fixes * UX Update (Heiko) + default format in Impress: slide dimension (4.3 → 16:9) + majority is in favor of the change + also need new templates + if someone is interested in evaluating various template proposals + more than welcome + survey: uses of LibreOffice + no major changes in results (as expected) + past month: decline in participation + trying to find out the reason + one hour before the ESC is the new idea + Bugzilla (topicUI) statistics 257(257) (topicUI) bugs open, 441(441) (needsUXEval) needs to be evaluated by the UXteam + Updates: BZ changes 1 week1 month 3 months 12 months added 3(0) 7(-1)34(1) 368(-10) commented 28(-36) 158(-5) 527(-1)3335(-13) removed 0(-1) 1(0) 4(0) 43(0) resolved 10(-8) 33(8) 58(10) 274(10) + top 10 contributors: Tietze, Heiko made 134 changes in 1 month, and 1562 changes in 1 year Faulí Tarazona, Xisco made 43 changes in 1 month, and 460 changes in 1 y. Philips, Yousuf made 38 changes in 1 month, and 1522 changes in 1 year Thomas Lendo made 36 changes in 1 month, and 390 changes in 1 year Timur made 26 changes in 1 month, and 89 changes in 1 year Foote, V Stuart made 21 changes in 1 month, and 578 changes in 1 year Henschel, Regina made 15 changes in 1 month, and 138 changes in 1 year Budea, Áron made 9 changes in 1 month, and 75 changes in 1 year Cor Nouws made 9 changes in 1 month, and 354 changes in 1 year Zolnai, Tamás made 9 changes in 1 month, and 28 changes in 1 year + Changing default page format in Impress to 16:9 based on G+ poll (pro >70%) better/more 16:9 templates next step https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Rd2oHyCMaQLWvDj3ciorJZkILsaoZV0FhomiLEsCago + input about Open Source survey taken and rework in progress, translation next step + meeting time 3pm utc+2 from next week on * Crash Reporting (Caolan) + 22(+0) import failure, 579(+0) export failures + not changed since last week + ??? coverity issues + Google / ossfuzz: ?? fuzzers active now * Crash Reporter (Xisco) + http://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/?days=128 + http://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/5.3.3.2 + 3002 (last 7 days) + http://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/5.3.4.2 + 2523 (last 7 days) + http://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/5.3.5.1 + 5 (last 7 days) + http://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/5.4.0.3 + 650 (last 7 days) + Open bugs with a signature : 39 (+4) + http://bit.ly/2qZIC1H + 5.3.4 has less crashes than 5.3.3, good thing * Hackfests & Events (Bjoern) + next venues / suggestions + GUADEC: 28th July - 2nd Aug (Michael) + advertising the good things around flatpak / gtk3 integration * Call for Papers for the LibreOffice conference + deadline August 15th. + 1 week!!! + http://conference.libreoffice.org/2017/call-for-papers-3/ * mentoring/easyhack update (Shinnok) committer... 1 w
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [libreoffice-design] Minutes of the Design Hangout: 2017-Aug-03
On 03/08/2017 14:51, Heiko Tietze wrote: > * Switch default to 16:9 in Impress/Draw >+ good idea (Heiko), bad idea (Jay) I have sent a comment by email but it looks like it has been ignored: most conference centers still have 4:3 configurations, so switching to 16:9 would be a problem for all people speaking at conferences (with a few exceptions). There should be a resizing feature which allows to switch from 4:3 to 16:9 without changing the aspect ratio of iterms on the slide (which is what happens today). A large slide with more white space is not a problem, and is often acceptable, as much as a narrower slide with less white space. A large slide with all objects stretched orizontally is not acceptable (and needs a lot of rework). >+ perhaps make it dependent on the actual screen dimension (Eric) This should be a must. -- Italo Vignoli - LibreOffice Marketing & PR mobile/signal +39.348.5653829 - email it...@libreoffice.org hangout/jabber italo.vign...@gmail.com - skype italovignoli GPG Key ID - 0xAAB8D5C0 DB75 1534 3FD0 EA5F 56B5 FDA6 DE82 934C AAB8 D5C0 ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [libreoffice-design] Minutes of the Design Hangout: 2017-Aug-03
Your voice has been heard, like many other on G+. The change is about the default where today >70% have to switch from 4:3 to widescreen. In future it is the minority including you who has to change the format. The functionality remains as it is. On 03.08.2017 15:38, Italo Vignoli wrote: > On 03/08/2017 14:51, Heiko Tietze wrote: > >> * Switch default to 16:9 in Impress/Draw >>+ good idea (Heiko), bad idea (Jay) > > I have sent a comment by email but it looks like it has been ignored: > most conference centers still have 4:3 configurations, so switching to > 16:9 would be a problem for all people speaking at conferences (with a > few exceptions). There should be a resizing feature which allows to > switch from 4:3 to 16:9 without changing the aspect ratio of iterms on > the slide (which is what happens today). A large slide with more white > space is not a problem, and is often acceptable, as much as a narrower > slide with less white space. A large slide with all objects stretched > orizontally is not acceptable (and needs a lot of rework). > >>+ perhaps make it dependent on the actual screen dimension (Eric) > > This should be a must. > -- Dr. Heiko Tietze UX designer Tel. +49 (0)179/1268509 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
[Libreoffice-qa] Minutes of the Design Hangout: 2017-Aug-03
MEETING WILL START AT 3pm UTC+2 (CEST) BEGINNING NEXT WEEK / AUG-10th + Present: Eric, Jay, Tomaz, Heiko Organization * Participation in the design meeting declined + Bubli: criticizing the missing technical background of proposals + Samuel: lunch time around 13, preference is 9-11 or 14-16 + Tomaz/Eric: it's okay but vacation time during summer + Eric: maybe better advertise the meeting to the community + Stuart: would attend at 3pm => starting at 3pm beginning next week Tickets * Switch default to 16:9 in Impress/Draw + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=93244 + good idea (Heiko), bad idea (Jay) + introduce a user setting or remember the last setting (Heiko) + perhaps make it dependent on the actual screen dimension (Eric) + run a quick poll (Eric) + https://plus.google.com/107566594492891737454/posts/Gv86jqr9qyf + Aug-02, ~4pm CEST+1: 37/95 (28%/72%) => so let's do it * Missing 16:9 templates + some avail from the last competition just need to get included (Jay) https://drive.google.com/open?id=1Rd2oHyCMaQLWvDj3ciorJZkILsaoZV0FhomiLEsCago + task is to finalize the voting, clean-up the templates, and submit all eventually => AI: Please have a look at the GSheet and up/down vote the templates + once the voting is done Jay will do the grunt work * Terminology for Spelling and Grammar https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=87648 => go for 'Spelling' only * Introduce a 'histogram' function in Calc + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=74665 + calculate the bins automatically (based on user input of how many) + followed by frequency() and creation of the histogram + run as a wizard (Data > Statistics) + no mockup needed as the wizard have a generic ui (Tomaz) + formula is to find n bins equidistantly between min and max => no further UX input required * Indicator for overridden properties in inherited styles + means to reset https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=88559 + duplicates, good mockup for resetting properties in tdf#89826 + indication of inherited properties needed (Jay) + maybe a section similar to 'contains' does the trick (Jay) => lets check how others do it * Disable Autocomplete depending on paragraph style + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=76282 + reasonable request but complicates the UI + auto complete can be disabled easily; shortcut is customizable => WF because too complicate for average user and out of scope signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
