[Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2019-02-28 Thread Michael Meeks 
* Present:
+ Olivier,Sophie, Eike, Stephan, Michael W, Heiko, Michael S, Michael M
  Christian, Caolan, Miklos, Thorsten, 

* Completed Action Items:
+ disable popups for development-build only in 6.2/.3 (Justin L)
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=123270
  + not done → abandoning for now.

* Pending Action Items:
+ review/update GSOC ideas page! (Mentors)
  + https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/GSoC/Ideas
  + deadline: early next week   

* Release Engineering update (Christian)
+ 6.2.1 rc2 status
   + delayed a little – some external library fixes 
   + on mirrors now and ready to be distributed.
+ 6.2.2 rc1
   + tagging it this weekend sometime.
+ 6.1.6 rc1: April 9 
+ 6.3 alpha1: early May
+ Remotes
+ Android viewer
+ Online

* Documentation (Olivier)
+ New Help
 + pages CSS tweaks (fitoshido)
 + improvements in build robustness (sberg)
 + updates XLST

+ Helpcontent2
 + updates in contents (libreofficiant, ohallot, fitoshido, Mark
   Robbinson, Mike Kaganski, A Gelmini)
 + Most screenshot are currently useless (tdf#123765)
  + dialogs with tabs are collapsed – missing other tabs
  + can’t use the images.   

+ Help editor
 + Investigating the integration of editor with gerrit
 + lots of work to do here.

+ Guide books
+ Team is growing with arrival of US based volunteers
+ willing new contributors here - shifted meeting for them

* UX Update (Heiko)
+ Bugzilla (topicUI) statistics
254(254) (topicUI) bugs open, 257(257) (needsUXEval) needs to be 
evaluated by the UXteam
+ Updates:
BZ changes   1 week   1 month   3 months   12 months  
 added  6(-1)17(0) 36(-1)  98(1)  
 commented 55(19)   135(-3)   428(17)1440(15) 
   removed  3(3)  3(3)  7(0)   18(4)  
  resolved  2(-2)14(-6)44(2)  124(2)  
+ top 10 contributors:
  Tietze, Heiko made 83 changes in 1 month, and 586 changes in 1 year
  Cor Nouws made 36 changes in 1 month, and 113 changes in 1 year
  Mehrbrodt, Samuel made 30 changes in 1 month, and 73 changes in 1 year
  Dieter Praas made 27 changes in 1 month, and 152 changes in 1 year
  Foote, V Stuart made 24 changes in 1 month, and 221 changes in 1 year
  Kainz, Andreas made 18 changes in 1 month, and 163 changes in 1 year
  Thomas Lendo made 18 changes in 1 month, and 348 changes in 1 year
  Xisco Faulí made 17 changes in 1 month, and 290 changes in 1 year
  Telesto made 15 changes in 1 month, and 63 changes in 1 year
  kompilainenn made 10 changes in 1 month, and 112 changes in 1 year

  + New needsUXEval between Feb/21-28

* Envelope dialog: Make dialog more a11y friendly
  + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=107625
=> New

* Proposal of Enhancement for Writer / Table of Contents, Index or
  Bibliography
  + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=123673
* Proposed Scale Tool feature
  + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=123713
=> WFM

  + New proposed easyhacks – help with code pointers appreciated. 

* Disable "Close Bezier" when multiple objects are selected
  + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=90373
* Cartesian System
  + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=120582
* Reorganizing “Border” tab on “Format Cells” window in Calc
  + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=100548
* add "coil" to draw basic shape menu
  + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=50998
* Add opportunity to open Autofilter window uses shortcut
  + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=123560


* Crash Testing (Caolan)
+ 1(+0) import failure, 4(+0) export failures
  - no change: redline-related (?)
+ coverity issues
  - coverity is back up
  - but we now need c++17, which isn’t working yet
  - asked coverity, and “new version will be deployed in the coming few
months”
+ Google / ossfuzz:
  - 8 issues, 7 timeouts, 1 OOM 
  - down one from last week
+ ForcePoint, round 9
+ had a run, but did not get any new ones; probably fixed
+ CVE issues
+ will be able to handle CVE’s ourselves (Caolán)
+ CNA process
+ asked in the meeting wrt. stupid stuff in the past
   + all not expected
+ positive progress.

* Crash Reporting (Xisco, Heiko)
  + http://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/6.1.3.2
+ 1064 1039 (-25)
  + http://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/6.1.4.2
+ 1478 1260 (-218)
  + http://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/6.1.5.2
+ 382 444 (+62)
  +

[Libreoffice-qa] Minutes from the UX/design meeting 2019-Feb-28

2019-02-28 Thread Heiko Tietze 
Present: Heiko

Tickets 

* Thicker border line than 9 pt or 5 cm
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=122511
   + WFM (users who need larger frames could do that by rectangles) or have a 
larger maximum?
   + issue is about page > border (max 9pt) and shape | lines (5cm)
   + sidebar maximum for line width is 500pt
   + missing use case but also limiting to a non-sensible value is unclear
   + No objection to set wider limitation (Franklin)
   => accepted

 * Should be possible to customise menus or toolbars delivered with an extension
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=123590
   + faced the same problem (Franklin)
   + extensions are special solutions for a specific use case; 
 customization is needed for inbuilt options
   => keep ticket open

 * New wizard for filling bank checks
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=123599
   + some comments on BZ to handle it as extension
   => closed by OP as WF

 * Enable Find & Replace by format in Impress & Draw
 * Enable Find & Replace by Attribute in Impress & Draw
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=92584
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=92608
   + to find & replace objects (by any property) sounds weird; 
 better enhance the Navigator (and resolve as WF) (Heiko)
   + see also https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=100698
   + see also https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=92603
   => make 92584 a duplicate of 92608
   => no negative effect from enhancing the existing F dialog, so +1

 * Properties to save with drawings
   + grid settings https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=78035
 + is saved and restored but global settings apply when changed (Regina)
   => treat as a bug
   + measure units: https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=83325
   - measure units: https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=98453
   => both dup of 59068
   + drawing scale per page: 
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=59068
   => as a general rule of thumb we define defaults in T>O and allow document 
specific 
 values to be changed in dialogs (e.g. View > Fields vs. T>O>Writer>View)





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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Extending subsequent tests with dogtail tests?

2019-02-28 Thread Noel Grandin 
On Sun, 24 Feb 2019 at 22:04, Samuel Thibault  wrote:

> The fact that even the C UI strings may change is a concern indeed. We
> however don't really have another way to identify widgets, do we? (we
> don't want to identify them structurally, that'd be even less stable)
>
>
The LibreOffice python UI tests use IDs that are maintained in the .ui
files (and are just strings), which are relatively stable.
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