[Libreoffice-qa] ESC meeting 2019-08-22 minutes

2019-08-22 Thread Miklos Vajna

* Present:
   + Michael W, Olivier, Christian, Stephan, Caolan, Sophie, Thorsten, Miklos, 
Heiko

* Completed Action Items:
   + Package Silesian (szl) - ready to be used as UI language (Cloph)
 [ done locally, but not yet pushed ]
   + Emoji toolbar control out of experimental (Heiko)
 + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=105689#c28
 [ looked, something wrong on Windows – will investigate more ]
 [ but punted the idea for later ]

* Pending Action Items:
   + Change behavior of Previous/Next Change commands:
 look at https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/76719/, decide if it’s safe
 or not (Kendy)
   + Talk to Markus about showing just dll name in crash reporting (Xisco)
 [ mail sent, but the issue not sorted out yet ]
   + Check with Italo wrt. LibOCon Hackfest wiki page (Sophie)
   + 6.4 release plan (Christian)

* Release Engineering update (Christian)
   + 6.2 – no releases end of Sep
 + would prefer a next bugfix release earlier than 60 days (Caolan)
 AI: came up with a proposal (Cloph)
   + 6.3
 + 6.3.1 RC1 is late, RC2 will be delayed a bit (Cloph)
   + Remotes
   + Android viewer
   + Online
   + daily builds – people are asking (Thorsten)
   + Xisco now has the know-how (Cloph)
   + Linux and macOS is sorted out, but Windows is a bit more complicated
   + bibisect is also an option

* Documentation (Olivier)
   + New Help
   + Investigating xapian-omega for search engine in online version
   + Helpcontents2
   + Several fixes in Help (ohallot)
   + QR Code Help page (S. Goyal)
   + Many refactoring in pages after bug triaging
   + Guides
   + More work on Calc and Draw guide
   + GSDOC
   + Tech writer bonding phase – Start work next week

* UX Update (Heiko)
   + Bugzilla (topicUI) statistics
   238(238) (topicUI) bugs open, 204(204) (needsUXEval) needs to be 
evaluated by the UXteam
   + Updates:
   BZ changes   1 week1 month   3 months   12 months
added  6(-2) 17(-1)34(0)   77(-1)
commented 64(-89)   282(-4)   552(4) 1583(30)
  removed  1(1)   2(0)  3(1)   21(1)
 resolved  7(-11)36(5) 48(4)  149(5)
   + top 10 contributors:
 Heiko Tietze made 189 changes in 1 month, and 299 changes in 1 year
 Foote, V Stuart made 81 changes in 1 month, and 260 changes in 1 year
 Kainz, Andreas made 48 changes in 1 month, and 235 changes in 1 year
 Todd made 42 changes in 1 month, and 42 changes in 1 year
 Dieter Praas made 31 changes in 1 month, and 149 changes in 1 year
 Cor Nouws made 22 changes in 1 month, and 130 changes in 1 year
 Thomas Lendo made 21 changes in 1 month, and 249 changes in 1 year
 Xisco Faulí made 21 changes in 1 month, and 277 changes in 1 year
 Kaganski, Mike made 20 changes in 1 month, and 40 changes in 1 year
 Henschel, Regina made 19 changes in 1 month, and 39 changes in 1 year
   + New needsUXEval between Aug/15-22

 * Deleting the source CSV file of an Address List should delete it
   from data sources

+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=125331

 * Searching in comments doesn't work

+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=125974

 => NAB/WF/WFM







 * More explanatory title for "Compare documents" file select dialog

   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=126618

 ->  * FONT EFFECTS: strikethrough enhancements

   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=127053

 => NEW

   + be careful, perhaps the actual rendering is not trivial (Miklos)
   + it’s in ODF after all (Heiko)







 * Sheet tab list position should be remembered across sessions

   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=125112

 * Paragraph Style Inheritance Bug: Derived styles of Heading 1..10
   missing "Chapter Numbering" List Style used by Chapter Numbering Feature

   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=126887

 * Add DRAW templates to LibreOffice

   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=127028

 * Cannot find special character if does not know character name but number

   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=111816

 * Font size in input line (formular bar) lager than in other UI elements

   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=127066

 => unconfirmed/in discussion

* Crash Testing (Caolan)
   + 0(-1) import failure, 1(-6) export failures
   + 51 (+2) coverity issues
   + other eyes welcome now
   + Google / ossfuzz
   + 15 issues (15 Timeouts, 1 OOM)

* Crash Reporting (Xisco)
   + https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/6.2.5.2
   + 1865 (+57) 1808
   + https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/6.2.6.2
   + 246 (+234) 12
   + 

[Libreoffice-qa] Minutes from the UX/design meeting 2019-Aug-22

2019-08-22 Thread Heiko Tietze
Present: Heiko

Tickets

 * Add option to show 'Apply Style' menu in plain text
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=62926
   + extra option or combination with existing
   + unclear what controls would be affected (Stuart, c9)
   + afraid of too many options if there are more controls (Heiko)
   + Tools > Options > View is across modules and "Show preview of styles" 
would be Writer-only (Heiko)
   + run a poll on the blog/ml (Cor)
 + 
https://design.blog.documentfoundation.org/2019/08/15/poll-about-design-preview-for-dropdown-controls/
   * Add the new option under Options > View, next to "Show Font Preview"  
40%  (44 votes)
   * Combine the two (and perhaps more) controls under the same option  
29.09%  (32 votes)
   * Don't add another option  14.55%  (16 votes)
   * Add the new option under Options > Writer > View  11.82%  (13 votes)
   * Don't add another option and also remove the exiting "Show Font 
Preview"  4.54%  (5 votes)
 + taking the 2nd and 3rd option together (combine and no new) the majority 
is against a new checkbox
   => combine the styles dropdown WYSIWYG preview with View > Font

 * Safer application of options for each filter criterium in a pivot table
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=125864
   + having options for each of the 3 parameters is an overkill and impairing 
usability
   => WFM

 + Extend context menu in a pivot table with mark actions
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=125834
   + row/column selection is not limited to pivot tables
   + we have plenty of shortcuts to deal with data
   => WFM

 * Support context menus for management of list entries in pivot table setup 
dialogue
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=125826
   + for accessibility it makes sense to have alternatives to the drag 'n drop 
actions
   => add context menu to field (Add to Row, Add to Column, Add to Values) and 
the
  respective options at those lists "Remove"

 * Support for multiple selection of list entries in data series selection
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=122007
   + multiselection in the chart wizard lists makes no sense
   + removing entries is only necessary if the selected range has not been 
chosen carefully
   => WFM

 * Extended graphical user interface for the specification of several cell areas
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=122012
   + add +/- buttons to the text field for more graphical interactions (Thomas)
   + would be the fact for all cases with multselections not only charts
   + manual editing is common
   + it wouldn't be clear how +/- buttons work, in particular what is removed
   => WFM

 * More explanatory title for "Compare documents" file select dialog
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=126618
   + rename the dialog title from "Compare to" to "Original document" (OP)
   + "Original" is not always correct (but most time)
   + have an explanatory static text (Thomas)
 + it's just a file dialog, adding text is a bad solution (Heiko)
   + help talks about "original"
   => let's change it





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