[Libreoffice-qa] ESC meeting minutes: 2021-01-07

2021-01-07 Thread Miklos Vajna 
Reminders:
  + don’t forget the TDF tendering budget ideas till next week, see below
  + don’t forget your FOSDEM talk, see below

* Present:
+ Michael S, Heiko, Stephan, Michael W, Gabriel, Miklos, Eike, Olivier, 
Xisco, Thorsten

* Completed Action Items:
+ None

* Pending Action Items:
+ get GSoC 2021 application kicked off until end of year (Thorsten)
+ restrict master direct pushes in core.git, enforce going via gerrit 
(Cloph)

* Release Engineering update (Xisco)
+ 7.1 status
  + 7.1 rc2 next week
+ 7.0 status
  + 7.0.5 far away
+ Remotes: Android, iOS
+ Android viewer

* TDF tender budget for 2021 (Heiko)
+ https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Budget2021
+ asked what is going to be tendered this year (Heiko)
+ need to compile a list: criteria is that it has be an enhancement and 
needs a cost estimate + contact
  + help with estimating is appreciated
+ next steps:
  + initial list is already in the wiki
  + if you had good ideas last year, feel free to copy it over
  + next week: freeze the idea list, rank the ideas
+ deadline: 21th Jan, we have to have a ranked result
  + have a sheet from Eike from last year for ranking (Thorsten)
+ important that there is a relatively recent estimate for the task 
(Thorsten)
AI: add good ideas with estimates to that page till next week (all)

* Late features (Heiko)
+ Community Edition disclaimer in about dialog
+ Brand image with CE tagline in start center
+ https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/97427
+ see also tdf#139347 & tdf#139335
=> in discussion; agreement from l10n & RE pending
+ want some short description what “community edition” is (Heiko)
  + plan to restore the above change, know it’ll break the string freeze
  + request from Marketing: explain what “community edition” is
AI: restore the change + add board members as reviewers to build consensus 
(Heiko)

* Documentation (Olivier)
   + New Help – No news
   + Helpcontent2
   + Updates and additions by S. Chaiklin, S. Horacek, Balaharipreetha 
Muthu, J. Luth, Johnny_M, LibreOfficiant, JP Ledure and more

   + Google seasons of Doc
  Projects ended and awarded
  + https://moodle.documentfoundation.org
  + https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Calc_Functions

   + Guides
  + work going on in all books
   + Wiki
  + New pages on ODF (Regina)
 + HTTP://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/ODF_Markup


* UX Update (Heiko)
+ Bugzilla (topicUI) statistics
241(241) (topicUI) bugs open, 278(278) (needsUXEval) needs to be 
evaluated by the UXteam
+ Updates:
BZ changes   1 week   1 month   3 months12 months
 added 17(2) 69(16) 87(15) 193(14)
 commented 75(16)   476(-7)   1044(-26)   4093(21)
   removed  0(0)  5(0)   9(-1)  52(0)
  resolved  5(2) 49(-8)134(-16)485(-1)
+ top 10 contributors:
  Heiko Tietze made 249 changes in 1 month, and 2424 changes in 1 year
  Telesto made 237 changes in 1 month, and 853 changes in 1 year
  Foote, V Stuart made 110 changes in 1 month, and 705 changes in 1 year
  Seth Chaiklin made 71 changes in 1 month, and 229 changes in 1 year
  Roman Kuznetsov made 37 changes in 1 month, and 267 changes in 1 year
  Dieter Praas made 37 changes in 1 month, and 480 changes in 1 year
  Ilmari Lauhakangas made 37 changes in 1 month, and 279 changes in 1 
year
  Kaganski, Mike made 21 changes in 1 month, and 159 changes in 1 year
  Henschel, Regina made 20 changes in 1 month, and 102 changes in 1 year
  Sascha Z made 18 changes in 1 month, and 37 changes in 1 year

 + 57 new tickets with needsUXEval Dec/17-Jan/07

* Crash Testing (Caolan)
+ Missing Caolan
+ 13(-1) import failure, 1(-1) export failures
+ ??? coverity issues
+ Google / ossfuzz: ?? fuzzers active now

* Crash Reporting (Xisco)
   + https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/6.4.7.2
 + (-873) 476 1349 1232 1411 1286 944 803 568 343 0
   + https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/7.0.3.1
 + (-5242) 2302 7544 6347 6410 6208 4932 3472 1732 0
   + https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/7.0.4.2
 + (+1027)  1027 0

   + numbers are pretty low, let’s see
   + reported a crash, it seemed to work

* Mentoring/easyhack update
  committer...   1 week 1 month  3 months 12 months
  open 109(45) 188(56)  201(61)   204(62)
   reviews 396(140)   1108(10) 3240(-92)14905(-1092)
merged 185(26)1080(-263)   3494(-244)   17807(-692)
 abandoned  13(5)   58(-6)  193(-27)  980(-16)
   own commits 151(-4) 898(-97)2864(-91)14538(-50)
review commits

[Libreoffice-qa] Minutes from the UX/design meeting 2020-Jan-06

2021-01-07 Thread Heiko Tietze 

Present: Sascha, Heiko, (Steve)
Comments: Stuart, Jan, Gerhard, Regina, Thomas, MikeK, Seth

Tickets/Topic

 * VIEWING Enhancement: Show cursor position as percentage of document
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=138982
   + nice to have but rather as document statistics with line/column
 number (Heiko); OP replied: "not suited for my use case"
   + limited value to our 'Benjamin' users (Stuart)
   + Writer is not a layout program (Sascha)
   => WF

 * VIEW MENU: Replace View>Show Horizontal Scroll Bar/Vertical Scroll Bar
   with single menu entry
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=138538
   + pointless change; modifications to the main menu need very good
 reason (Roman, Stuart)
   + many programs like GIMP and Inkscape switch all SB on/off; but
 LibreOffice has a submenu for the scrollbars individually (Sascha)
 + scrollbars belong to the OS/DE and whether they be small or hide
   after a while is up to the system (Heiko)
 + scrollbars have a high value as they show the document position
 + comparison with image editors is bad because canvas is moved per mouse
   + rulers have a master switch with a shortcut (Sascha)
 + but a weird interaction with checkboxes that are not independent
   + we could improve the rulers, have a master switch plus both vertical and
 horizontal options - and the same for scrollbars with the advantage of
 a shortcut to switch (both) scrollbars off (Sascha)
 + doubt the use case; horizontal scrolling, ie. high zoom level,
   is very unusual (Heiko)
   + benefit is that LibreOffice becomes more familiar with other tools (Sascha)
   => does not hurt to add the command but has low priority

 * UI: Label "type" & Image  in the image properties dialog not really helpful
   (self-explaining)
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=138844
   + no change for sake of changing, Image may remain Image (Gerhard)
   + Type is misleading (Regina)
   + Type => Position and Size, Image => Flip and Rotation (Heiko)
 + Image could be just Rotation (Sascha)
   + charts and formula objects also use "Type" (for position and size
 information), text box and shapes "Position and Size"
 + "Rotation" is used at shapes too
   => do it

 * Add bulk-save/bulk-close options for documents
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=101247
   + multi-document interface (MDI) instead of an application with one interface
 for all documents/graphics is are rather not suited for this method
   + optional if implementation is easy with less maintenance (Jan, Thomas)
   + special workflow, better realized per macro (Sascha)
   + don't see the benefit from one dialog with many checkboxes for
 MDI documents (would be different in case of SDI) (Heiko)
   + command "Save All" works fine anyway (Sascha)
   + "Close All" without asking to save changes is a dangerous function
 and I'm strongly against it (Heiko)
   => WF (not much benefit with some effort)

 * The "Strong" button when added to a toolbar shows "Strong Emphasis"
   not Strong
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=136686
   + keep "Strong Emphasis" and rename the UNO command (MikeK)
   => follow Mike's suggestion

 * Using Ctrl + Shift + B and Ctrl + Shift + I for Emphasis and Strong Emphasis
   character styles (and change Super/Subscript keyboard shortcuts)
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=108015
   + rather alt+shift+e/s for _E_mphasis and _S_trong Emphasis (Seth)
   + Strong Emphasis might be bold but could be any other style (see also
 bug 136686 comment 8 above); therefore the association with direct
 formatting is misleading
   + it's not possible to customize character style shortcuts (bug 106785)
 neither is one assigned
   => keep the CS empty and resolve ticket as WF



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