Re: Minutes from the UX/design meeting 2023-Apr-24
On 25/4/24 09:06, Eyal Rozenberg wrote: * Make possible 2 or more impress in fullscreen each on a dedicated monitor AND each seekable independently with user-defined hotkeys per each file + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=160242 First of all, I really think this bug report should have been split up into several ones - and the issues were sort of mapped on the bug page: A. run two presentations full-screen at same time (on two monitors) B. Keyboard-navigate in two running full-screen presentation (i.e. different shortcuts) C. Same as B, but arbitrary number of presentations D. Support per-presentation navigation shortcut choices, persisted in the ODP file Suggest breakup instead then INVALID (or MOVED) on this one. I would say A - NEW B - UNCONFIRMED (or LATER?) C, D - WONTFIX Thanks Eyal! Please go ahead and open a new report for A if you think that's the way to go. Let's hold off on B. Cheers -- Stéphane Guillou Quality Assurance Analyst | The Document Foundation Email: stephane.guil...@libreoffice.org Matrix: @stragu:matrix.org Fediverse: @str...@mastodon.indie.host Web: https://stragu.gitlab.io/
Re: Minutes from the UX/design meeting 2023-Apr-24
Sorry for missing a meeting with a few of "my own" bug reports... On 24/04/2024 21:58, Heiko Tietze wrote: * Want indication of whether a master slide is in use or not + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=160403 + MSO Powerpoints shows the number of slides in a tooltip (Stephane) + additional boolean indication would be nice (Eyal) + tooltip sounds good and is not harmful (John) + not much useful since "Delete Master" is only available if the slide master is not in use (Cor) ... but you only see that if you right-click the master. The boolean indication suggestion would make you aware of this about all visible masters at once. But I agree with the low priority. => no objection, low priority * When right-clicking a font family combo-box, offer font meta-data + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=152487 + unclear use case and much likely off-topic being available in font management tools (Heiko) I will have to make the use case clearer on the bug page. Again, sorry for not being around to make that case. + info dialog sounds good but rather via special characters or in the character properties dialog (Stuart) + only use case is compatibility with some other font (John) That's an interesting use case, but not what I had in mind. + likely not part of the meta data + the Internet returns all search results (Cor) The point is to help the user select an item on a list, while the list is open - so that the user doesn't have to search for information elsewhere (e.g. the Internet). > => idea does not find support; WF> * Make possible 2 or more impress in fullscreen each on a dedicated monitor AND each seekable independently with user-defined hotkeys per each file + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=160242 First of all, I really think this bug report should have been split up into several ones - and the issues were sort of mapped on the bug page: A. run two presentations full-screen at same time (on two monitors) B. Keyboard-navigate in two running full-screen presentation (i.e. different shortcuts) C. Same as B, but arbitrary number of presentations D. Support per-presentation navigation shortcut choices, persisted in the ODP file > + start Impress twice (Stephane) When you start Impress twice you're still left with just the one instance running. I guess you can force a second instance (with a different profile folder perhaps?) but even then, IIANM, Impress is "imperialistic" when in Full-Screen mode. Op claimed this doesn't work right now. workflow is supported with a third monitor (John) 1. Is it? Can you elaborate on the bug page? 2. What about two monitors? > + too niche, better suited for an extension (Stephane, Sahil) I partially disagree, considering the breakdown above: A: Not so niche, in my opinion. Occasionally you want to show slides from different presentations on different monitors - without having combined them into a multi-monitor-targeting presentation (do we even have that?). Happened to me already. B: If Alt-Tab worked (which we can't know, since A is not possible yet), then this would be kind of niche. C, D: That's the niche part. > => WF Disagree! It looks like (some of) the ask changes app behavior rather than enhancing it. The per-file shortcuts sounds like extension material to me though. Suggest breakup instead then INVALID (or MOVED) on this one. I would say A - NEW B - UNCONFIRMED (or LATER?) C, D - WONTFIX
Minutes from the UX/design meeting 2023-Apr-24
Present: Cor, Sahil, John, Ring, Heiko Comments: Stephane, Eyal, Stuart Tickets/Topics * Bullets and Numbering dialog in Writer does not say it's about an implicit list style + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=160629 + list styles created and applied via toolbar are hard to identify as such in the B&N dialog + no label substitutes the need to learn how this works; we may drop all shortcuts and ease functions but the cost is too high (Heiko, Cor) => suggest WF * Want indication of whether a master slide is in use or not + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=160403 + MSO Powerpoints shows the number of slides in a tooltip (Stephane) + additional boolean indication would be nice (Eyal) + tooltip sounds good and is not harmful (John) + not much useful since "Delete Master" is only available if the slide master is not in use (Cor) => no objection, low priority * When right-clicking a font family combo-box, offer font meta-data + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=152487 + unclear use case and much likely off-topic being available in font management tools (Heiko) + info dialog sounds good but rather via special characters or in the character properties dialog (Stuart) + only use case is compatibility with some other font (John) + likely not part of the meta data + the Internet returns all search results (Cor) => idea does not find support; WF * Make possible 2 or more impress in fullscreen each on a dedicated monitor AND each seekable independently with user-defined hotkeys per each file + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=160242 + start Impress twice (Stephane), workflow is supported with a third monitor (John) + too niche, better suited for an extension (Stephane, Sahil) => WF OpenPGP_signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
ESC meeting agenda: 2024-04-25 16:00 CEST
Hi, The prototype agenda is below. Extra items are appreciated either in this document or as a reply to this mail: https://pad.documentfoundation.org/p/esc You can join using Jitsi here: https://jitsi.documentfoundation.org/esc Regards, Miklos --- * Present: + * Completed Action Items: * Pending Action Items: + Update api.libreoffice.org from 7.4 (Cloph) * Release Engineering update (Cloph) + 7.6: 7.6.7 RC2 next week? + 24.2: 24.2.3 RC2 this week? * Documentation (Olivier) + Bugzilla Documentation statistics 264(264) bugs open + Updates: BZ changes 1 week 1 month 3 months 12 months created 15(7)37(7) 98(9) 222(4) commented 26(23) 68(11)246(11)856(20) resolved 5(-1) 17(1) 46(3) 117(1) + top 10 contributors: Olivier Hallot made 43 changes in 1 month, and 263 changes in 1 year Stéphane Guillou made 25 changes in 1 month, and 255 changes in 1 year Dione Maddern made 16 changes in 1 month, and 31 changes in 1 year MeBugzilla made 7 changes in 1 month, and 7 changes in 1 year Weghorn, Michael made 7 changes in 1 month, and 8 changes in 1 year Nabet, Julien made 7 changes in 1 month, and 53 changes in 1 year Ilmari Lauhakangas made 6 changes in 1 month, and 71 changes in 1 year Kaganski, Mike made 4 changes in 1 month, and 68 changes in 1 year Adolfo Jayme Barrientos made 3 changes in 1 month, and 24 changes in 1 year Heiko Tietze made 3 changes in 1 month, and 82 changes in 1 year * UX Update (Heiko) + Bugzilla (topicUI) statistics 241(241) (topicUI) bugs open, 38(38) (needsUXEval) needs to be evaluated by the UXteam + Updates: BZ changes 1 week1 month3 months 12 months added 2(-2) 9(-10)16(-7) 24(-7) commented 50(-21) 196(-35) 556(-8)1894(-55) removed 1(0) 3(1) 3(1) 12(0) resolved 9(1) 32(4) 89(4) 314(-6) + top 10 contributors: Vernon, Stuart Foote made 109 changes in 1 month, and 309 changes in 1 year Heiko Tietze made 84 changes in 1 month, and 1079 changes in 1 year Stéphane Guillou made 79 changes in 1 month, and 644 changes in 1 year Ilmari Lauhakangas made 19 changes in 1 month, and 144 changes in 1 year Dieter made 15 changes in 1 month, and 148 changes in 1 year Eyal Rozenberg made 15 changes in 1 month, and 143 changes in 1 year Justin Luth made 15 changes in 1 month, and 140 changes in 1 year Petros Christopoulos made 7 changes in 1 month, and 7 changes in 1 year Robert Großkopf made 6 changes in 1 month, and 11 changes in 1 year *UNKNOWN* made 5 changes in 1 month, and 5 changes in 1 year * Crash Testing (Caolan) + 24(+0) import failure, 19(+0) export failures + ??? coverity issues + Google / ossfuzz: ?? fuzzers active now * Crash Reporting (Xisco) + 24.2.0.316125(+718) + 24.2.1.167(+4) + 24.2.1.212036(+1143) + 24.2.2.24911(+1790) * Mentoring (Hossein) committer... 1 week1 month 3 months 12 months open 92(46)143(23) 171(28) 171(28) reviews 357(39) 1211(-165) 3695(-167) 12499(-19) merged 245(32)964(-17)3229(-48)12441(-53) abandoned 21(12) 55(6) 171(4)658(-7) own commits 183(54)679(38) 2152(8) 9191(-1) review commits 67(24)264(5) 873(1) 3068(13) contributor... 1 week 1 month3 months12 months open 44(8) 93(-6)103(-2) 103(-2) reviews 745(163) 2605(-7) 7649(-41) 29453(-117) merged 29(12) 147(10)373(17) 1734(10) abandoned 12(1) 51(6) 295(5) 698(8) own commits 31(15) 151(-2)442(-4) 1122(5) review commits 0(0)0(0) 0(0) 0(0) + easyHack statistics: needsDevEval 8(8) needsUXEval 1(1) cleanup_comments 331(331) total 413(413) assigned 28(28) open 351(351) + top 10 contributors: LeSasse made 19 patches in 1 month, and 19 patches in 1 year Armin Le Grand (allotropia) made 12 patches in 1 month, and 89 patches in 1 year Ritobroto Mukherjee made 10 patches in 1 month, and 14 patches in 1 year Rafał Dobrakowski made 8 patches in 1 month, and 16 patches in 1 year Dione Maddern made 8 patches in 1 month, and 34 patches in 1 year Bogdan B made 5 patches in 1 month, and 20 patches in 1 year Aaron Bourdeaux made 5 patches in 1 month, and 5 patches in 1 year
