Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Libreoffice-qa Digest, Vol 146, Issue 1
Hi Colomban, Currently, I work with Ilmari. I have only a foundation level in tests. And my computer has Windows 10. So, if a total beginner in accessibility tests could help you with the accessibility of LibreOffice, I am interested in this task. In August, I am on vacation, so my work is random. But in September, I would like to increase my participation to work more on LibreOffice gradually. Before my vacation, I worked 10 hours per week on LibreOffice. I would like to try to work 15 to 20 hours per week. So I think I could work on tests with Ilmari and with you. Best Regards, Sophie Sipasseuth On Wed, 2 Aug 2023 at 14:00, wrote: > Send Libreoffice-qa mailing list submissions to > libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > libreoffice-qa-requ...@lists.freedesktop.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > libreoffice-qa-ow...@lists.freedesktop.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Libreoffice-qa digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > >1. New tests: GTK3 platform accessibility (Colomban Wendling) > > > -- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2023 19:30:05 +0200 > From: Colomban Wendling > To: libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org, > libreoff...@lists.freedesktop.org > Subject: [Libreoffice-qa] New tests: GTK3 platform accessibility > Message-ID: <05958ff6-cd12-7738-aa0e-8c51f877b...@hypra.fr> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed > > Hello everyone, > > Platform accessibility (a11y) conformance tests for the GTK3 VCL [1] > have been merged a couple days ago. This is a set of tests validating > that the a11y exposed to the platform on Linux using the GTK3 VCL is > coherent with the internal representation in LO. This can catch (and > already had caught) issues in the VCL layer not correctly transmitting > data over -- and even more [2]. You can read a bit more on the > technical side of things on the wiki page [3]. > > These tests are enabled by default if all dependencies are available. > That is a working Xvfb [4], dbus-launch, and the AT-SPI2 library [5] > which is used to communicate with the platform accessibility daemon. It > is also possible to either enable or disable them forcefully, using > --enable-atspi-test and --disable-atspi-tests respectively. > > Linux CIs are running these tests, but anybody willing is encouraged to > enable those locally and report any issue (don't hesitate to CC me). > > Anybody interested is also more than welcome to extend coverage of these > tests! At the moment only a subset of the a11y APIs are checked, yet it > should not be very hard to add more. If you're interested, give [3] a > look and again, don't hesitate to get in touch with me. > If you're interested in making this work with another VCL (Qt6, GTK4, > etc.) it would also be great, but probably require a tad more work. It > would however be very interesting, and would add coverage for another > substantial module :) > > You're also more than welcome to build on the concept for other > platforms (e.g. Window or macos). I expect those to look fairly > similar, but require a wholly different platform wrapping layer > (obviously they'd use something other than libatspi, and they might need > to adapt to differences in the platform's expectations, although they > are actually fairly similar). > > Happy testing! > Regards, > Colomban > > PS: huge thanks to everyone that helped me getting this finally done, > including but not limited to testing, fixing blocker bugs, adjust CI > environment, and everything else :) > > [1] https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/153069 > [2] e.g. https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=155625 > [3] > > https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Accessibility_Unit_Tests#Platform_accessibility_tests > [4] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xvfb > [5] https://docs.gtk.org/atspi2/index.html > > > -- > > Subject: Digest Footer > > ___ > Libreoffice-qa mailing list > Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org > https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa > > > -- > > End of Libreoffice-qa Digest, Vol 146, Issue 1 > ** >
[Libreoffice-qa] Reminder: CFP for LibOCon
Hi all, This is a reminder that the call for papers for the LibreOffice conference is still open until end of June. All information available from here: https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2018/04/21/libreoffice-conference-call-for-paper/ Conference website will be soon turned on for information on the conference location, venue and practical info. In the meantime, if you have questions, don't hesitate to ping me. Cheers Sophie -- Sophie Gautier sophie.gaut...@documentfoundation.org GSM: +33683901545 IRC: sophi Release coordinator The Document Foundation ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Call for testing: LibreOffice 5.4.0.3-hotfix
Hi Xisco, Le 26/07/2017 à 15:24, Xisco Fauli a écrit : > Hello, > > The builds for 5.4.0.3 has been now replaced by new builds containing > the fix tdf#109281 [1], which was a critical bug discover in LibreOffice > 5.4.0.3 this week. > > I would like to ask everyone, specially those with a Windows > environment, to download the new builds and test that tdf#109281 [1] is > fixed and it doesn't cause any other problem, specially those related > with the text rendering on printing (tdf#109281 [1]) and the text > rendering on the UI( tdf#107166 [2]). I forwarded your mail to our FR QA list, and one tester reported that bugs don't appear any more on 32 bit version. If I've more feedback, I'll report it here too. Cheers Sophie -- Sophie Gautier sophie.gaut...@documentfoundation.org GSM: +33683901545 IRC: sophi Release coordinator The Document Foundation ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] First draft for the TestLink admin guide
Hi Thomas, Le 07/03/2017 à 18:52, Thomas Hackert a écrit : > Hello Sophie, *, > after playing around a bit, I have started to write the admin guide > for TestLink at > https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/TestLink/Admin_Guide, though I > am still at the beginning of experimenting with TestLink and also > with the documentation of it (found some strange behaviours on > TestLink with my admin account as well as a newly created tester > where I need to search for a solution on TestLink's documentation > and / or issue tracker... :( ). I hope I will find some time the > next days to add further details for it, but would be glad to have > some proofreaders and especially any opinions here: > > what do you think about it? Am I "on the right track" (i.e. should > I continue with it that way or would you prefer to see > descriptions from every link beginning on the top left to the > bottom right with its linked sides)? > > My idea was to start with user creation (maybe deletion as well) and > assigning roles, later adding test projects for several NL > communities, adding a Bugzilla (or maybe Redmine, if I cannot find a > quick instruction to add ours to TestLink ... ;) ), and let all test > related description go to the user guide ... ;) > > But maybe has some better / additional idea what could be added > there ... ;) Thank you very much, I'll have a look tomorrow and will give you my feedback :) Cheers Sophie -- Sophie Gautier sophie.gaut...@documentfoundation.org GSM: +33683901545 IRC: sophi Release coordinator The Document Foundation ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] TestLink to replace MozTrap, your help is wanted ; )
Hi Thomas, Le 07/03/2017 à 14:27, Thomas Hackert a écrit : > Hello Sophie, *, [...] >> Thank you so much for your offer to help :-) I would like to document >> the tool before launching it so please register to TestLink on our vm >> and then, I'll grant you admin rights and you'll be able to have a full >> overview of the tool. > > [done] ... ;) Registered as "thackert" there. And I granted you admin rights, you are now able to have a tour on all functionalities :) Let me know if you have questions Cheers Sophie -- Sophie Gautier sophie.gaut...@documentfoundation.org GSM: +33683901545 IRC: sophi Release coordinator The Document Foundation ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] TestLink to replace MozTrap, your help is wanted ; )
Hi Thomas, Le 07/03/2017 à 13:03, Thomas Hackert a écrit : > Hello Sophie, *, > On 6/3/2017 17:26 Sophie wrote: >> Le 06/03/2017 à 15:18, Pedro a écrit : >>> sophi wrote >>>> As you may not know, we are migrating to TestLink instead of MozTrap to >>>> manage and run LibreOffice manual tests. >>>> The instance is here for the moment: >>>> https://vm182.documentfoundation.org/ >>> >>> Excellent news! >>> IMO this project could benefit from real users testing real documents! >> >> yes :) > > :) I would like to offer my help with testing and documenting this > :) How should I proceed? Register myself to TestLink on our vm or > should I wait for Guilhem implementing the SSO mentioned below? And > how do I get access to the vm to help documenting the steps done? Thank you so much for your offer to help :-) I would like to document the tool before launching it so please register to TestLink on our vm and then, I'll grant you admin rights and you'll be able to have a full overview of the tool. > >>> Would it be possible to use the TDF login mentioned by Michael (Meeks) so >>> that there is no need for yet another registration? >>> >>>> + online/TDF/LDAP accounts etc. (Michael) >>>> + https://user.documentfoundation.org >> >> Guilhem will have a look and I'll let you know if LDAP support in >> TestLink is talking with ours ;) > > I have found > http://forum.testlink.org/viewtopic.php?f=52=7493=18448=SSO#p18448 > where > > > $tlCfg->authentication['SSO_enabled'] = false; > $tlCfg->authentication['SSO_method'] = 'CLIENT_CERTIFICATE'; > $tlCfg->authentication['SSO_uid_field'] = 'SSL_CLIENT_S_DN_Email'; > > > is mentioned. Maybe changing this to > > > > $tlCfg->authentication['SSO_enabled'] = true; > $tlCfg->authentication['SSO_method'] = 'CLIENT_CERTIFICATE'; > $tlCfg->authentication['SSO_uid_field'] = 'SSL_CLIENT_S_DN_Email'; > > > and maybe the last line to > > > $tlCfg->authentication['SSO_uid_field'] = > 'SSL_CLIENT_S_DN_Loginname'; > > > or something like that in its config file could help here? I'll pass that to Guilhem, thanks. I know he already had a look and he said it should be possible, but I don't want to give hope if there is not :) > > Thanks for your work on TestLink and have a nice day Thanks again Thomas! Cheers Sophie ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] TestLink to replace MozTrap, your help is wanted ; )
Hi Pedro, Le 06/03/2017 à 15:18, Pedro a écrit : > Hi Sophie > > > sophi wrote >> As you may not know, we are migrating to TestLink instead of MozTrap to >> manage and run LibreOffice manual tests. >> The instance is here for the moment: >> https://vm182.documentfoundation.org/ > > Excellent news! > IMO this project could benefit from real users testing real documents! yes :) > > Would it be possible to use the TDF login mentioned by Michael (Meeks) so > that there is no need for yet another registration? > >> + online/TDF/LDAP accounts etc. (Michael) >> + https://user.documentfoundation.org Guilhem will have a look and I'll let you know if LDAP support in TestLink is talking with ours ;) Cheers Sophie -- Sophie Gautier sophie.gaut...@documentfoundation.org GSM: +33683901545 IRC: sophi Release coordinator The Document Foundation ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
[Libreoffice-qa] TestLink to replace MozTrap, your help is wanted ; )
Hi all, As you may not know, we are migrating to TestLink instead of MozTrap to manage and run LibreOffice manual tests. The instance is here for the moment: https://vm182.documentfoundation.org/ Advantages are: - it is still maintained and developed (MozTrap is abandoned) - it has very nice ways to add and managed tests, bridge with BZ, make stats and so on. - it is localized (UI) in several languages - it is easy to run translated tests and managed fully localized sessions \o/ I'm currently learning how to use it and document it at the same time on the wiki: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/TestLink Once done, I'll create tests based on BZ links Xisco sent me and we see relevant for manual tests. If you are interested to help me to work on the *English parts* only for the moment, these are: - documenting admin parts, - documenting how to tests, - documentingl10n management, - create tests, - bridge BZ - see how automatic tests are managed (this is possible but I didn't read anything for the moment, maybe this is relevant for development too) Any help is welcome and really appreciated to bring the instance live as soon as possible and have other eyes than mine in organizing the process. Thanks a lot in advance! Cheers Sophie -- Sophie Gautier sophie.gaut...@documentfoundation.org GSM: +33683901545 IRC: sophi Release coordinator The Document Foundation ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Libreoffice new member to help with QA
Le 21/12/2016 à 23:02, Andrea Mussap a écrit : > Hi allmy name is Andrea, and I'd like to help with the tests. I > accessed the 'Testing - QA' main page and I'm reading the stuff, but > there's so much information that I'm not sure how to contribute. I > already signed up to Bugzilla. > > I've found the Moztrap Test Cases and the 'QA/Triage For Beginners', > so can you tell me how can I help you?? BRAndrea. I found your mail in my spam box, so sorry for the delay and welcome to the list :) For the moment, we are leaving Moztrap as it is not maintained anymore and we are currently evaluating TestLink. I guess the decision to migrate to that tool will be soon taken so stay tuned :) I'll come back to you about those manual tests very soon. In the meantime, may be you would like to confirm bugs on BugZilla? Cheers Sophie -- Sophie Gautier sophie.gaut...@documentfoundation.org GSM: +33683901545 IRC: sophi Release coordinator The Document Foundation ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
[Libreoffice-qa] Wiki page for FOSDEM17 hackfest
Hello all, Fosdem17 hackfest page created, please add your name and what you'll work on, thanks! https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Hackfest/FOSDEM2017 Cheers Sophie -- Sophie Gautier sophie.gaut...@documentfoundation.org GSM: +33683901545 IRC: sophi Release coordinator The Document Foundation ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
[Libreoffice-qa] Small point on Get Involved page
Hi all, It seems I lost the connection yesterday during the meeting... So some feedback on the Get Involved page, only one point on this sentence: "If the bug can be reproduced in the latest version of LibreOffice, then set the bug status to NEW and put the following comment:" What if you can reproduce the bug in the version in which it is reported and is not the latest? and what is the latest version? between Fresh and Still? I think removing 'latest' would be less confusing. What do you think? Cheers Sophie -- Sophie Gautier sophie.gaut...@documentfoundation.org GSM: +33683901545 IRC: sophi Release coordinator The Document Foundation ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
[Libreoffice-qa] Content for the next Annual Report
Hi all, The next annual report will be soon at the door again, we need to feed it and believe me, it is greedy :-) So please fill the pad with your activities since the beginning of the year, it is really a great help for us in order to build a shiny and exhaustive report that represents all the parts of the community and the project achievements. Thanks a lot in advance for your help and your time :) Pad: http://pad.documentfoundation.org/p/annualreport Cheers Sophie -- Sophie Gautier sophie.gaut...@documentfoundation.org GSM: +33683901545 IRC: sophi Release coordinator The Document Foundation ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Next QA Meeting - Tuesday 27th 18:00 (UTC+2)
Hi Xisco, Le 21/09/2016 à 17:50, Xisco Fauli a écrit : > Hello, > > So it looks no one participated in the doodle... snif snif > > Therefore, I'd like to propose that we have our next QA meeting next > Tuesday 27th at 18.00 Berlin Time. > > Initially it will take place in IRC and it will last one hour. Thanks a lot for fixing the date (I was waiting for it :-) I'll attend the meeting. Cheers Sophie -- Sophie Gautier sophie.gaut...@documentfoundation.org GSM: +33683901545 IRC: sophi Release coordinator The Document Foundation ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Welcome!
Hi Marina, all, Le 15/06/2016 14:22, Marina Latini a écrit : > > > - Messaggio originale - >> Da: "Sophie" <gautier.sop...@gmail.com> >> A: "LibreOffice-QA" <libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org> >> Inviato: Martedì, 14 giugno 2016 11:10:44 >> Oggetto: [Libreoffice-qa] Welcome! >> >> Hi, >> >> So welcome to Massimo, Manuel, Marco, Lorenzo and Pietro, happy to have >> you here! and happy to help if you need it :) > > Hi Sophie, thank you again, and hi all! > > A first question about an unconfirmed bug. > https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=100400 > What do you think about this? I think this isn't an enhancement but an > invalid request. > Can you help me? I see this has been dealt by Cor and others on IRC in the meantime :) Thanks for the nice work already! Cheers Sophie -- Sophie Gautier sophie.gaut...@documentfoundation.org GSM: +33683901545 IRC: sophi Co-founder - Release coordinator The Document Foundation ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
[Libreoffice-qa] Welcome!
Hi, So welcome to Massimo, Manuel, Marco, Lorenzo and Pietro, happy to have you here! and happy to help if you need it :) Cheers Sophie -- Sophie Gautier sophie.gaut...@documentfoundation.org GSM: +33683901545 IRC: sophi Co-founder - Release coordinator The Document Foundation ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] next BH session and feature testing
Hi Dave, Le 13/06/2016 15:58, Dave Barton a écrit : > Original Message > From: Sophie <gautier.sop...@gmail.com> > To: LibreOffice-QA <libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org> > Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2016 18:25:15 +0200 > >> Hi all, >> >> I'm preparing the next BH session which will take place on the 24th of >> June. Are there some features that you see need more testing in the 5.2 >> version? >> Thanks in advance >> Cheers >> Sophie > > Thanks for the info Sophie. I see that marketing are now preparing for a > launch of 5.2 on the 3rd or 4th of August. Yes, > > I also note that the ESC propose not to have a Beta 3 and propose to > move directly to RC1. Will the RC1 be available for the BH session on > the 24th June? Yes, there is only a shift to a more longer RC time than beta one, no move on the planing see: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleasePlan/5.2#5.2.0_release > > I am very concerned that the release date is getting close and the > regression bug 99310: > https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=99310 > remains unassigned. Well there always will be a bug remaining for somebody ;-) This version is not supposed to be used on production until some months. > > On the surface this looks like an easy hack, but unfortunately other > commitments prevent me taking the time to dig into the code to provide a > patch, or find and put forward a proposal to revert the commit that > created this regression. Any chance you can bibisect it? that would help a lot to have it corrected. Cheers Sophie -- Sophie Gautier sophie.gaut...@documentfoundation.org GSM: +33683901545 IRC: sophi Co-founder - Release coordinator The Document Foundation ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
[Libreoffice-qa] next BH session and feature testing
Hi all, I'm preparing the next BH session which will take place on the 24th of June. Are there some features that you see need more testing in the 5.2 version? Thanks in advance Cheers Sophie -- Sophie Gautier sophie.gaut...@documentfoundation.org GSM: +33683901545 IRC: sophi Co-founder - Release coordinator The Document Foundation ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
[Libreoffice-qa] Take the opportunity to award a community member!
Hi all, Maybe you have seen that there is currently a campaign to award each other with barnstars on the wiki here: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Barnstars/2016-05 We currently have very few awards on this page but I'm sure there is somebody you want to thank for some help or some work he/she has done in your area or in your team. So don't be shy, a 'thank you', whatever the form, is always something we are happy to receive :) Thanks a lot in advance for your participation! Cheers Sophie -- Sophie Gautier sophie.gaut...@documentfoundation.org GSM: +33683901545 IRC: sophi Co-founder - Release coordinator The Document Foundation ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
[Libreoffice-qa] Take the opportunity to award a community member!
Hi all, Maybe you have seen that there is currently a campaign to award each other with barnstars on the wiki here: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Barnstars/2016-05 We currently have very few awards on this page but I'm sure there is somebody you want to thank for some help or some work he/she has done in your area or in your team. So don't be shy, a 'thank you', whatever the form, is always something we are happy to receive :) Thanks a lot in advance for your participation! Cheers Sophie -- Sophie Gautier sophie.gaut...@documentfoundation.org GSM: +33683901545 IRC: sophi Co-founder - Release coordinator The Document Foundation ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Proposal for BH sessions organization
Hey Cor, Le 29/02/2016 18:37, Cor Nouws a écrit : > Hey Sophie, > > Sophie wrote on 29-02-16 18:27: >> But bug hunting sessions are dedicated to new features and testing them >> thoroughly before the releases, so what you propose is something > > Sure. It's no one else but us, though, that determine the purpose of BHS. > So if we learn that a certain approach is not appealing any more (or not > at the moment), why not change? As BHS' currently do not work for new > release testing, it would be a pity not to use them for another hard > needed subject. Because we need those versions with new features to be more tested. That doesn't prevent to do other testing, and that's why we need to reorganize the BHS in a more attracting way and make them successful. > >> so what you propose is something >> different, but could be implemented under another name like "code >> squeezing sessions" > > Another event could possibly put extra pressure on people's agenda. Not > sure if that will be met with applause :) That could be also addressed by different populations, those who wants their version with less bugs and don't care about new features could be the best participants while others would be new feature lovers. > > But.. it's my feeling and my opinion. If there is strong evidence of > support for something else: fine for me :) No problem, you know that we sometime have different opinions but it's important to discuss them :) Thanks a lot for your feedback. Cheers Sophie -- Sophie Gautier sophie.gaut...@documentfoundation.org GSM: +33683901545 IRC: sophi Co-founder - Release coordinator The Document Foundation ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Proposal for BH sessions organization
Hi Cor, Le 23/02/2016 00:07, Cor Nouws a écrit : > Hi Sophie, > > Thanks for knotting the ideas together :) > > Sophie wrote on 16-02-16 17:17: > >> - come with 10 features to test thoroughly during the BH, the list is >> taken from the release notes and selected by QA members, submitted to >> ESC, they could give a quick feedback/input, (derived from Cor and >> Miguel Angel ideas) > > My idea was about organizing energy around an area in the product/code > to do things around a tender to get lots of bugs clarified and resolved. > Not about features from the release notes. But bug hunting sessions are dedicated to new features and testing them thoroughly before the releases, so what you propose is something different, but could be implemented under another name like "code squeezing sessions" that are organized in between to major version (like we are now, next bug hunting session should be somewhere around week 18 so this is about still 10 weeks without BHS) > > I expect a new approach with specific, changing goals (maybe each > session), to attract more people, to be more appealing, awakening a > feeling of urgency. I understand and I'm all for it, but for me it's something different than the sessions we organized that solely focus on the next major version. Cheers Sophie -- Sophie Gautier sophie.gaut...@documentfoundation.org GSM: +33683901545 IRC: sophi Co-founder - Release coordinator The Document Foundation ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
[Libreoffice-qa] Fwd: 2016 budget proposals
Hi all, I would like to remind you about the budget proposal Florian has made some time ago, the deadline is approaching, so please don't miss it :) Cheers Sophie Message transféré Sujet : [Libreoffice-qa] 2016 budget proposals Date : Wed, 10 Feb 2016 18:05:25 +0100 De : Florian Effenberger <flo...@documentfoundation.org> Organisation : The Document Foundation Pour : libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Dear community, the year 2015 is over, and we have achieved a lot of exciting things, thanks to your amazing work, dedication, passion and support - thank you so much for being part of our community and working with us on the joint goal of fostering LibreOffice! In order to support the community even better, we would like to create a better budgetting process, have a concrete plan for 2016 already now, with a few "pools" or "buckets" defined, ideally: 1. community events (aimed at getting face-time for community contributors) 2. infrastructure (e.g. compute power/hardware/storage, cloud, VMs), 3. marketing (aimed at representing the project to the outside world) 4. other (anything that does not fit into the above) The idea is to have a good plan for 2016 already now, while keeping the administrative overhead low, and have two authorizers (one of them being a board member or deputy, the other one from the wider community) responsible for each budget, which means getting receipts, approving and tracking expenses, and clarifying questions with Florian or Sophie. To get a better understanding of your needs, we ask you to send us your budget requests within *three weeks* from this e-mail, i.e. by 2016-03-02 to flo...@documentfoundation.org While I monitor some of the lists, please always send your proposals/requests *directly* to me so they are not lost! Please let us know your requests for funds *alongside* some items you envision to be paid from these funds. The items are not binding, the spending in the end is the responsibility of the authorizers, but some examples help the board in getting a better understanding of the funds required to best match your needs. If possible, please also mention the amount of travel costs associated. We'll factor in some margin, but concrete numbers and ideas are very much welcome to have a plan for 2016. As a sample, a request could look like this: ## We'd like to request a 2016 budget of 1000 € for community events 500 € for infrastructure 1500 € for marketing Expenses we envision are 1. marketing: attendance at XYZ trade show to show LibreOffice to ABC user group (700 € booth costs, 300 € for collaterals and 500 € of travel, totalling to 1500 €), 2. community: a community weekend to discuss tasks and ideas (600 € hotel, 100 € for snacks and 300 € travel, totalling to 1000 €), 3. infrastructure: dedicated server to QA localized versions (500 €) ## Alongside that, we will also provide some mechanism in Redmine for approvals and tracking of expenses, and will follow-up with details on this later on. Thanks again for all your work, and looking forward to your proposals! Florian ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/ ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
[Libreoffice-qa] Proposal for BH sessions organization
Hi all, So to sum up the topic and make a proposal: - BH on one day the Friday only (Cloph) - come with 10 features to test thoroughly during the BH, the list is taken from the release notes and selected by QA members, submitted to ESC, they could give a quick feedback/input, (derived from Cor and Miguel Angel ideas) - publish the list of feature to be tested on the BH session wiki page - dedicate a MozTrap run to this 10 features (to make the test run shorter, newer and then more attractive) - revive the bot Cloph has developed (never remind his name :) - advertise that BH takes place either on the mailing list and irc (maybe people are afraid by irc) or should we discuss having more "modern" communication channels like hangout too? Feedback welcome :) Cheers Sophie -- Sophie Gautier sophie.gaut...@documentfoundation.org GSM: +33683901545 IRC: sophi Co-founder - Release coordinator The Document Foundation ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
[Libreoffice-qa] Revisiting BH session organization
Hi all, We would like to rethink the bug hunting sessions organization to make them more attractive. The last ones were really too quiet with few people joining. What would be your ideas? Cloph already proposed to have them on one day only. Would Friday be the good day? Thanks in advance for your help :) Cheers Sophie -- Sophie Gautier sophie.gaut...@documentfoundation.org GSM: +33683901545 IRC: sophi Co-founder - Release coordinator The Document Foundation ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Testing Windows builds on Linux with PlayOnLinux now possible!
Hi, Le 03/02/2016 14:55, Bjoern Michaelsen a écrit : > Hi Gouchi, all, > > awesome news: Gouchi set up LibreOffice on PlayOnLinux (see > https://www.playonlinux.com/)! This means you can now install LibreOffice > Windows builds running in Wine with just a few clicks on Linux. > > Please try it out and provide feedback here or at: > > https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=87743 > > This should help a lot with triaging regressions, verifying fixes and > checking/confirming if bugs are playformspecific. > > I hope this is highly helpful for QA work. Using this should be > straightforward, but if one of you wants to update docs in the TDF wiki or > make > a screencast about this, that might make things even better. > > Thanks a lot to Gouchi for the work on this! He is also known as Karim, so thanks a lot Karim for your work on this, will be of great help, and pleased to see you amongst us again :) Cheers Sophie -- Sophie Gautier sophie.gaut...@documentfoundation.org GSM: +33683901545 IRC: sophi Co-founder - Release coordinator The Document Foundation ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Blitz on Base bugs
Hi Alex, Le 19/01/2016 15:54, Alexander Thurgood a écrit : > Le 19/01/2016 14:01, Jochen Schiffers a écrit : > > Hi Jochen, > >> It is IHMO correct (all 6 months) to check if bugreports are actual. >> The problem is that only one (and occasionally two) devs actually is/are >> working on the code. But this not the problem of QA. > > I never said it was the problem of QA that only 2 devs work on the Base > code. My issue is with what appears to have been targeting a module for > which the number of open bugs will necessarily not have diminished a > great deal since the inception of the project precisely because not many > people work on Base, and consequently receiving 200 or so emails in the > process, when it is pretty obvious to anyone that knows the Base module > and reports bugs in Base that most of these issues are extremely > unlikely to be fixed in any sort of reasonable timeframe, or have been > fixed, due to the very lack of developers working on that module. > > I've always had a problem with bulk email bug reminders, and this has > definitely pushed my patience over my limit - for me, it only makes > sense if one understands the context behind the number of bugs reported > and tailors the reminder policy accordingly. I accept that we may not > have the resources or desire to do that, but regretfully, this policy > has pushed me to announce my immediate withdrawal from any further QA > work, certainly at least for the time being. So sad to hear that, Alex, the work you are doing on Mac, Base and all around is really tremendous, your withdrawal is a very very sad news for me and all the people who know you and appreciate to work with you since so long, I owe you so much. Please, take some time to breathe and come back. I'll put the issue on the agenda of the next QA meeting. I've been also flooded by BZ mails between Jan's work and the admin work, it's really difficult then to check if you're requested to act or not other than going through each of them, a big waste of time... There should be a way to get the admin work done without discouraging our volunteers. Cheers Sophie -- Sophie Gautier sophie.gaut...@documentfoundation.org GSM: +33683901545 IRC: sophi Co-founder - Release coordinator The Document Foundation ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Meeting tomorrow and time
Hi all, hi Pedro, Le 19/01/2016 13:23, Pedro a écrit : > Hi Sophie, all > > > sophi wrote >> So there will be a QA irc meeting tomorrow at 13:00 UTC. Robinson will >> you chair it? In case you're not available, let me know, I would jump in. I get an answer from Robinson and he told me that he didn't envisage a meeting today, but if needed we can have one. So let see, if you have any point you want to discuss, don't hesitate to join on irc, I'll be there and minutes. >> Also, I would like to discuss a more convenient time for the meeting. >> What would be the best time for the group? speaking in UTC would it be >> AM or PM? later in the evening? > > I can't make it at 13:00. But I might join the meeting at 14:30 (if someone > is still on IRC...) We're always there :) > > For me any working day of the week at 14:30 UTC is ok Ok, noted and thanks for your feedback, I'll add it to next week agenda to discuss it with Robinson. Cheers Sophie -- Sophie Gautier sophie.gaut...@documentfoundation.org GSM: +33683901545 IRC: sophi Co-founder - Release coordinator The Document Foundation ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
[Libreoffice-qa] Meeting tomorrow and time
Hi all, So there will be a QA irc meeting tomorrow at 13:00 UTC. Robinson will you chair it? In case you're not available, let me know, I would jump in. Also, I would like to discuss a more convenient time for the meeting. What would be the best time for the group? speaking in UTC would it be AM or PM? later in the evening? Thanks in advance for your inputs :) Cheers Sophie -- Sophie Gautier sophie.gaut...@documentfoundation.org GSM: +33683901545 IRC: sophi Co-founder - Release coordinator The Document Foundation ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
[Libreoffice-qa] 5.1.0RC2 runs on MozTrap
Hi Stuart, Thanks for running your tests on MozTrap. I've seen that you've created a new run on MozTrap, what was the purpose of this run and why didn't you use the one that was created? you wanted to test a special build? In general, it's better to keep the tests in the same run but maybe you had a special reason for that. Cheers Sophie -- Sophie Gautier sophie.gaut...@documentfoundation.org GSM: +33683901545 IRC: sophi Co-founder - Release coordinator The Document Foundation ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
[Libreoffice-qa] VMs for testing or bibisecting
Hi all, Is anybody interested on having access to a VNC server with daily builds on Windows for testing or bibisecting? Cheers Sophie -- Sophie Gautier sophie.gaut...@documentfoundation.org GSM: +33683901545 IRC: sophi Co-founder - Release coordinator The Document Foundation ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Bugzila 4.3.x versions cleanup
Hi Joel, Le 01/12/2015 17:53, Joel Madero a écrit : > > > On 12/01/2015 02:59 AM, Pedro wrote: >> No, I never tried bibisect on Windows. But Sophie volunteered to give me a >> hand if I decided to try so I assume it is possible. >> >> Again, what would be the advantage to have the user install 4.0.0 Beta1, >> Beta2, RC1, etc? Reducing the search range to a 0.0.1 isn't good enough? >> Does the full footwork have to be on the QA side? > > At least some developers agree with me btw - "precision is good" and > "lowering to the lowest common denominator doesn't seem ideal." Again, > certain developers have complained about QA tinkering without thinking > about the repercussions. Just because you can't see the benefits to > precision does not mean there aren't any. > > Just food for thought as we debate changing things *once again*. Do we > actually know for a fact that users are getting confused by having a few > extra versions listed? Or are we just assuming (or it's a corner case > with a couple users complaining?) and in response we want to yet again > modify bugzilla versions? Tommy's proposal was to simplify BZ approach on a user point of view. It is intimidating to go further when you're not sure what version you are using, and RC, beta are not clear things for users. What he was trying to find imho is a compromise between what is needed for QA and for users. Of course, the more granularity the better, but I think also that a long list of version is confusing. I'm not doing enough QA currently to have a firm opinion on Tommy's proposal, but I understand his request to shorten the 6 month period in this way. Cheers Sophie -- Sophie Gautier sophie.gaut...@documentfoundation.org GSM: +33683901545 IRC: sophi Co-founder - Release coordinator The Document Foundation ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
[Libreoffice-qa] QA meeting tomorrow?
Hi all, Is there a QA meeting planed tomorrow and at what time will it be? Thanks! Cheers Sophie -- Sophie Gautier sophie.gaut...@documentfoundation.org GSM: +33683901545 IRC: sophi Co-founder - Release coordinator The Document Foundation ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
[Libreoffice-qa] Building or bibisecting
Hi all, I would like to know who here is frequently building LibreOffice or is bibisecting on a regular basis? You can either answer on the list or directly to me if you prefer. Thanks a lot in advance for your feedback Cheers Sophie -- Sophie Gautier sophie.gaut...@documentfoundation.org GSM: +33683901545 IRC: sophi Co-founder - Release coordinator The Document Foundation ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Reminder: QA Meeting on Wednesday
Hi Pedro, Le 25/11/2015 16:16, Pedro a écrit : > Hi Joel > > > jmadero wrote >>> A sugestion: maybe have a branch dedicated to bug fixes every other year? >>> Example: let's say 5.1 is dedicated to fixes. Then a slight change of >>> schedule would postpone 5.2.0 to some months later so that most devs >>> would >>> concentrate on 5.1 (of course new features would still be added to Master >>> in >>> this period) instead of being split by two concurrent branches... >> This is literally impossible. We would have very talented developers >> saying no way - then what? We cannot dictate (we can suggest) what >> developers do. If we tell Developers "pause all your work and go back >> and do just regression fixing" they respond with "no" and then . . . the >> end. > > Have you tried? Maybe some will say no (and they can continue to work on the > Master branch) and some may agree. > > Do all QA people say No when you ask them to have a Bug Hunting session? Why > would ALL devs say No??? > > Why is it impossible to have a Bug Squashing Session for devs? I bet some > would find it challenging to fix more bugs than the others. We call them hackfests, and there are some regressions fixed there. But as Joel said it has already been discussed, we are not a community who forces people to work on specific tasks if they don't want too. Instead we try to invite them, so any idea in this direction is more than welcome. > > Why is it "literally impossible" to have a fix branch? Has something similar > been proposed at the ESC meeting and rejected? Bjoern answered you on that topic already > > > jmadero wrote >> Then catching regressions before they happen is, as >> Sophi suggested, all about growing the community to do testing in Alpha. > > I'm all for growing the community and for doing early tests. In fact I do > very early testing for Apache OpenOffice (where each release is a regular > install instead of a parallel Dev install) Having dev installation allow our testers to chase until which version the bug exists. At the OOo time, it was the same, only from RC1, install was a production one. What we need is more people testing at the alpha and beta stage, we have very few people testing there and it let a too short time to find regression before the final version. But, we do not recommend to install the last version until the 3rd one, so we should find most of the regressions at that time. > > However if there is no commitment from the Devs to fix regressions then it > really doesn't matter at which stage you catch them... No, don't mix things :) I can assure you that none of our developers are happy with regressions. We monitor them closely. That's true that we don't rely only on the numbers as a regression might affect a very little number of people and in a very specific work - so it's a real regression, but it will have much less impact that one affecting hundred of people. The latter are monitored and attract the attention of the ESC and are escalated, bibisected then we invite the dev to have a look at it. If want to help in this area, we always need more people able to bibisect those bugs and try to find the responsible commit, let me know, I'll help you with the first steps. Cheers Sophie -- Sophie Gautier sophie.gaut...@documentfoundation.org GSM: +33683901545 IRC: sophi Co-founder - Release coordinator The Document Foundation ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Reminder: QA Meeting on Wednesday
Hi, Le 25/11/2015 12:52, Pedro a écrit : > Hi Joel > > > jmadero wrote >> That's unfortunate, we should talk about moving the time and/or finding >> some other way to get dedicated people like yourself on live chat during >> meeting. > > If the meeting could be one hour and a half later (14:30 UTC) I could make > it, but that is probably too late for people somewhere else in the world? The issue was with me having the board meeting at the same time. The only day with no meeting currently for me is Tuesday, so maybe we could move it later that day? > > > jmadero wrote >>> Isn't 16% of Regressions something that TDF should be worried about? >> I'm not sure what "worried about" really means. If a major issue was >> resolved and the side effect is a minor regression, not so much. If >> instead there are a ton of minor fixes that have created crashers, more >> of an issue. I'd need a lot more information to adequately judge the >> problem. > > I think that even minor regressions are enough to demotivate users. From a > Quality perspective regressions should be a major concern. I agree, but some implementation need major refactoring where regressions can't be avoid. It's a balance between the two and also a sprint on finding them before a release. > > > jmadero wrote >> From QA perspective it's not our job to judge or dictate how developers >> work. They are volunteers, and they should be respected like volunteers. > > QA people are also volunteers. Yet you are not afraid to suggest what should > be done (reducing Unconfirmed bug count, bibisecting) and when (Bug hunting > sessions). > I think you are not disrespecting QA volunteers when you do that... > Is it too much to ask that Developers are organized in a similar way? That should be the same, and I personally think it's the same, ESC meeting are one of the way, regression tests, Jan mentoring are others and so on. No regression is introduced by purpose, it's a closed work between QA and development and a rush before a release. > > > jmadero wrote >> Before demanding a lot of other's time, I personally would prefer we do >> our job as good as possible. > > Agreed. But since there are less than 500 Unconfirmed bugs (which might not > even be bugs or could be duplicates) and there are nearly 4500 open bugs > (out of which 700 are Regressions) probably it would have a higher impact on > Quality to tackle the largest slice of the pie? Recruiting more testers at alpha and beta stages are imho the most important part to reduce those regressions. Unfortunately MozTrap doesn't get enough love from testers and we have few participants during BH sessions. If we address both, that should solve part of the problem. Cheers Sophie -- Sophie Gautier sophie.gaut...@documentfoundation.org GSM: +33683901545 IRC: sophi Co-founder - Release coordinator The Document Foundation ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
[Libreoffice-qa] Annual report reminder, participate now!
Hi all, This is a reminder that we will very soon begin to work on the annual report. If you have not done so yet, please fill the pad with any information that is relevant to the report and the community activities. Last year we had a very nice and interesting one, it was all due to your help in writing it, we hope to have even more to compile this year :) Thanks a lot in advance for your help! http://pad.documentfoundation.org/p/annualreport Cheers Sophie -- Sophie Gautier sophie.gaut...@documentfoundation.org GSM: +33683901545 IRC: sophi Co-founder - Release coordinator The Document Foundation ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] User Test Scenarios in the Moztrap for LibreOffice
Hello Kader, Le 18/10/2015 01:35, Kader Tarlan a écrit : > Hello Sir, > > I've done test automation with selenium and write test scenarios. I have > information about this topic. I want to work in the field of testing in > Libreoffice. > I used "Moztrap" test tool for test scenarios. > > User Test Scenarios written for Libreoffice. ( > http://manual-test.libreoffice.org/manage/cases/) However, I see a lot of > missing test scenario, there is yet to be written. I'd like to write these > scenarios. If you give me the authority for write test. > > if you want to , I'll share with you that I made a couple test scenario. > I'm waiting for your good news. Thank you very much for your proposal. I'm maintaining MozTrap but its use is quite low in our community. However, I'm very interested by your test and your help is more than welcome, that will help us to attract new contributors :) I'll give you more credentials on the site once I know your login. Thanks again, Cheers Sophie -- Sophie Gautier sophie.gaut...@documentfoundation.org GSM: +33683901545 IRC: sophi Co-founder - Release coordinator The Document Foundation ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Sourceforge Tester
Hi Sowmya, Le 15/10/2015 18:53, sowmya bondugula a écrit : > Hi I have seen your post in Sourceforge. I am interested in participating. > Would be more happy to help you and Its a good chance for me to learn. Thanks a lot for your willing to help and welcome to our group! > > > How can I proceed further? If you're interested in QA, then maybe you should read some documentation as a start, here https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Triage_For_Beginners and here for further details https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/BugTriage Let us know if you have questions, you can also join us on irc, freenode server and #libreoffice-qa channel. Cheers Sophie -- Sophie Gautier sophie.gaut...@documentfoundation.org GSM: +33683901545 IRC: sophi Co-founder - Release coordinator The Document Foundation ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
[Libreoffice-qa] The annual report needs you!
Hi all, This is this time of the year where we need to complete the annual report. Please, take the time to write some lines about your own achievements, project and/or those of your project, community. We need to have an impressive annual report again and it's only because of you that it will reflect our vibrant community :) So, stop everything else and start writing here: http://pad.documentfoundation.org/p/annualreport You can add parts, subtitle, projects, anything you see that will be important for this report. Big thank you in advance! Cheers Sophie -- Sophie Gautier sophie.gaut...@documentfoundation.org GSM: +33683901545 IRC: sophi Co-founder - Release coordinator The Document Foundation ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
[Libreoffice-qa] Quick summary of the profile's study
Hi all, So as requested during the QA meeting, here is a quick summary of the study [1] that has been conducted by one FR member on the FR lists concerning the profile corruption. -- - based on feedback from users@fr and discuss@fr mailing lists - about 1300 messages have been sicked containing profil in them - version was 4.2.x and 4.3.x - per module concerned, the results are : LibreOffice, Writer, Calc. For 63% of them, resetting the profile didn't solve the problem, for 33% that solved the problem from which for 15% a partial modification solved the problem. The problem was concerning most of the time functionalities, display and crashes. The OS the most concerned was Windows for 75% (not a surprise as a large part of our users are running windows). For 11 times, modifying LibreOffice\4\user\config\soffice.cfg\modules solved a problem met with menus, toolbars, etc... For 7 times on 11, problems were du to extensions. When it was files that were concerned (17 submitted to the list) on 4 was solved by deleting registrymodifications.xcu. Since version 4 there are less problems reported. When it was about crashes, 8 times on 30 renaming the profile solved the problem and was more on old version (3.4 or 3.6). The conclusion was that the profile has a bad reputation but its corruption is not so easy. One reason could be the change between OpenOffice.org and LibreOffice. Another one is the lack of information on how it runs and its different files (example is given on the 'store' file or 'psprint' file where there is no explanation on the file.) So by documenting it, it should be easier to identify and solve the problems that a user may encounter. - [1] http://www.numericoach.net/?Le-profil-de-LibreOffice-est-il-si Cheers Sophie -- Sophie Gautier sophie.gaut...@documentfoundation.org GSM: +33683901545 IRC: sophi Co-founder - Release coordinator The Document Foundation ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Recruiting Tactics
Hi Joel, Le 29/07/2015 19:36, Joel Madero a écrit : Hi All - So bug count is climbing again so I'm curious if people have any suggestions as to recruiting tactics. Our numbers went way way way down because of the incredibly hard work of lots of QA members, those members are still doing great work but their time is being divided a bit more so . . . we see bug numbers climbing. It is an ongoing battle to keep these under control. That being said - what are some suggestions as to recruiting? If we could try to add 2-3 people a month I think we would be in great shape. A couple suggestions that I have: 1) Go to the user list again - we tend to get push back from some members of user list who don't appreciate solicitation in the user forums...but, maybe? I think it's a good idea, even if some members don't like it. 2) Poke other contributor lists to see if people are being underutilized - I know for instance that Documentation team is pretty strong but there are down timeswe risk pissing off other teams for poaching but if members are being underutilized than...I see no problem encouraging them to contribute in QA *as well* as their original team; I'm not sure if the documentation team has down time, they have to update the guides for each version and for some of them, also translate them. Same for l10n, when they don't work on LibreOffice, they work on other open source software projects. 3) Leaving a footer of some kind on first contact with bug reporters that invites them into the QA chat (with the URL to the web client) - just say something like if you want to come visit QA land, we're happy to talk. good idea :) Maybe also organize more live sessions like the BH but dedicated to new comers. Something like Come on Tuesday, from 4 to 6 PM on irc, we will have a live triaging session with mentors available and reactivate the bot that gives you a random bug url to test it with the new comer. Cheers Sophie -- Sophie Gautier sophie.gaut...@documentfoundation.org GSM: +33683901545 IRC: sophi Co-founder - Release coordinator The Document Foundation ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
[Libreoffice-qa] MozTrap tests for 5.0.0 alpha
Hi all, I didn't found the time yet to upload new tests for the new features. I'll do so by the end of the week and will create a run for the alpha version. What is yet written is the test on the new handling of scientific notation. I'll go on with what is on the wiki. If you have something that need special testing, please let me know. Cheers Sophie -- Sophie Gautier sophie.gaut...@documentfoundation.org GSM: +33683901545 IRC: sophi Co-founder - Release coordinator The Document Foundation ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
[Libreoffice-qa] Reviewers committee for the LibreOffice conference talks.
HI all, In order to prepare the CFP agenda and content, we need to have the reviewers committee in place now. Who would like to participate this year on reviewing the papers? Ideally we need someone for the Community track, someone for the Developers track and someone for the Marketing/Migration track The main tracks we usually have are here: http://conference.libreoffice.org/2014/talks/ *Note*: reviewers need to be available during the July and August. Thanks in advance Cheers Sophie -- Sophie Gautier sophie.gaut...@documentfoundation.org GSM: +33683901545 IRC: sophi Co-founder - Release coordinator The Document Foundation ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
[Libreoffice-qa] UI enhancements filled by UX members
Hi all, I had this AI yesterday in the meeting: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/msg06884.html To sum up, enhancements opened by UX members are set as NEW and assigned to UX-advice so they are not triaged by QA members and don't appear in the QA stats. Cheers Sophie -- Sophie Gautier sophie.gaut...@documentfoundation.org Tel:+33683901545 Co-founder - Release coordinator The Document Foundation ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
[Libreoffice-qa] Annual Report: last chance to complete it!
Hi all, A gentle reminder that the pad for the annual report will be closed soon in order to give Flo enough time to write the report for the Berlin authorities. So please, add now what your team has done these last months! If you have links to blogs in English, don't hesitate to add them too. http://pad.documentfoundation.org/p/annualreport An English version will be extracted from the report, it will be then available for NLPs and the marketing team. Thanks a lot in advance for your help to report on our project activities :) Cheers Sophie -- Sophie Gautier sophie.gaut...@documentfoundation.org Tel:+33683901545 Co-founder - Release coordinator The Document Foundation ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Moztrap offline due to migration
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Alex, Le 03/12/2014 17:54, Alexander Werner a écrit : Hi, because of our infrastructure migration, Moztrap will be offline today from 2000UTC on for about 5-6 hours. Thanks for the info and for your work :) Cheers Sophie - -- Sophie Gautier sophie.gaut...@documentfoundation.org Tel:+33683901545 Co-founder - Release coordinator The Document Foundation -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1 iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJUf0T2AAoJEPL4wtZQX4TT0tcH/2LkPRiPhn1JWLZnQInYFEwD AwUzBgedmYmXSeM4z1zlE+o+MDAzQZS4Iy/3XwZ1c+kNieJfRCVC6OiYTTGyeIVT bNOnmRLjKepDA1BiuIlu2fjZoA296DaLdKyM7IPp+ombJxJsRPKo8SF4u3FsH2w7 ooeTnPntq/yseDoL00dUNlrTEmvfC9micsBrIcZ/q301sP2JZu+prl75oXIsE22d 7i/nBiCqvYymc7QVVIh7v+8+Kw42uMOav/EWz4tWAMmsyafE+tYXV/Y0qjMdc/sU Iju/1bljFL9QW0xyXpAcYC3ALvKrVvLqpM0ncZfii6dYQf/HWxGNBkhDbO+yiFo= =gGBL -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
[Libreoffice-qa] Next bug hunting session
Hi all, For information, the next bug hunting session page is here https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/BugHunting_Session_4.4.0_RC1 I've sent the retro planing to Italo and asked Charles to make some noise on our social networks. Cheers Sophie -- Sophie Gautier sophie.gaut...@documentfoundation.org Tel:+33683901545 Co-founder - Release coordinator The Document Foundation ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] test cases in MozTrap
Hi all, Le 21/11/2014 12:30, Lera Goncharuk a écrit : Hi, MozTrap has test cases for 4.4.0 Alpha 2, but we already have the beta 1 build. Could anyone do the test cases for beta1, please? The run has been renamed to Beta1 Cheers Sophie -- Sophie Gautier sophie.gaut...@documentfoundation.org Tel:+33683901545 Co-founder - Release coordinator The Document Foundation ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Moztrap 4.4.0 beta1 test
Hi Shinji, Le 19/11/2014 22:39, Shinji Enoki a écrit : Hi Sophie Japanese Team is planning several events (including BugHunting Session) this weekend in Japan. Wonderful! it's great to see your team so active and I wish you all very nice times together :) We want to try using Moztrap in BugHunting Session 4.4.0.0. Can you set up 4.4.0 beta1 test in Moztrap? I'll activate the tests run tomorrow morning. Note that the beta1 may not be ready, but that should not prevent you to test the alpha2 anyway, the earlier it is tested, the better. Event lists: * Kanto LibreOffice HackFest #2 (2014-11-22) Organizer : Ogasawara-san * OpenSource Conference 2014 Fukuoka (2014-11-22) A little test at LibreOffice booth Member: Omori-san, Annoura-san, Enoki * Kyushu LibreOffice Study Party #5 (2014-11-23) Organizer : Enoki Congrats to your team for this work! Cheers Sophie -- Sophie Gautier sophie.gaut...@documentfoundation.org Tel:+33683901545 Co-founder - Release coordinator The Document Foundation ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] 4.4 refactorings and BHS (was: minutes of ESC call ...)
Hi Bjoern, all On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 1:55 PM, Bjoern Michaelsen bjoern.michael...@canonical.com wrote: Hi, On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 04:13:33PM +, Michael Meeks wrote: * QA (Robinson) There is a Bug Hunting Session for 4.4 coming up next week. If you did any bigger refactoring or other work that primarily can be assumed to affect a specific area of usecases, please add this to: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/BugHunting_Session_4.4.0.0#What_to_test Maybe it would be easier if I add the test cases to MozTrap? there could be also a follow-up through the beta/rc/final. Cheers Sophie -- Sophie Gautier sophie.gaut...@documentfoundation.org Tel:+33683901545 Co-founder - Release coordinator The Document Foundation ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] 4.4 refactorings and BHS (was: minutes of ESC call ...)
Hi Bjoern, On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 5:37 PM, Bjoern Michaelsen bjoern.michael...@canonical.com wrote: On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 03:42:16PM +0100, Sophie Gautier wrote: Maybe it would be easier if I add the test cases to MozTrap? there could be also a follow-up through the beta/rc/final. Thank you, that would be great! I was suggesting to just edit the wiki as telling hackers to enter stuff in MozTrap likely earns us just a few groans mumbling yet another login/account. yes, no problem, I write the tests and upload them. Speaking of that: If people come forward during the ESC call with stuff done for 4.4 we should just put that in the minutes -- we can copy it over to the Wiki/MozTrap later. Just let the stuff in the minutes, I read them anyway and will ping the developer when I don't understand. Cheers Sophie -- Sophie Gautier sophie.gaut...@documentfoundation.org Tel:+33683901545 Co-founder - Release coordinator The Document Foundation ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Migration of dev-downloads to new infrastructure - Planned DOWNTIME
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Le 12/11/2014 01:19, Alexander Werner a écrit : Hi, dev-downloads was successfully migrated and is up and running again. Thanks a lot! Cheers Sophie - -- Sophie Gautier sophie.gaut...@documentfoundation.org Tel:+33683901545 Co-founder - Release coordinator The Document Foundation -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1 iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJUYxNvAAoJEPL4wtZQX4TTO3wH/2iVEKaf4hrZPMiMi5I+L0Bl hv8B7M7lEP1uPDm48DW2zYldNCBQtSiuaNDkuH1VajZNm9GzXnNC2UXjdMxIdXJn GStSXM7almt1Bj/iCO0i0LjIupQ+SfXNONQGmusZTuT3Bebr5AtNL04OdQFyCyd+ 8++hdfn2vYf4jaATt5m66rXhjhkcaxsR/3bmdAg4DdQ5uPiHHC1qL5+kbi80M9AP DXgpWMQjYPb7L0WC+I1L/YuYGJ6smcUlVI6grIyDCLQCPyvmeTk3dbbViMgxRHtT 4x/xfEArvutBEqkZswal9/yISlRDE9gxKTN8XF6YwazUogHmhgtoEtEy2uOiOK8= =UVr/ -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
[Libreoffice-qa] Annual Report: fill it! :)
Hi all, The end of the year will be soon here and Flo will have to write the annual report for the Berlin authorities. But we also want to have data for a marketing brochure (not only for the product but also for the community) in English. Please fill the pad with your team achievements! We want to know what happened this year :) http://pad.documentfoundation.org/p/annualreport We need data from the Design, QA, Infra, NLPs and DLP projects. Thanks a lot in advance. Cheers Sophie -- Sophie Gautier sophie.gaut...@documentfoundation.org Tel:+33683901545 Co-founder - Release coordinator The Document Foundation ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Crashers
Hi Joel, Le 23/10/2014 03:41, Joel Madero a écrit : Hi All, We currently have *21* unconfirmed bugs that have something about crashing involved. Would be fantastic to get these confirmed: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?bug_status=UNCONFIRMEDchfield=short_descchfieldto=Nowf1=short_desclist_id=483505o1=anywordssubstrproduct=LibreOfficequery_format=advancedshort_desc=crashes%20hang%20freeze%20crash%20segfault%20segfaults%20haltshort_desc_type=anywords Of course with these in particular it's nice to: 1. Prioritize correctly (if confirmed - major, critical) 2. MAB if appropriate Just one note here, I won't systematically put them in MAB with major critical. If you look at mine with the Reminder functionality, I might be the only one in the world to use it. So I won't make it a high priority or annoy developers with a thing so few people use :) Cheers Sophie -- Sophie Gautier sophie.gaut...@documentfoundation.org Tel:+33683901545 Co-founder - Release coordinator The Document Foundation ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Planing for 4.4.0 BH session
Hi all, For information the wiki page is set. Cheers Sophie Le 16/10/2014 09:32, Sophie a écrit : Hi all, This is the proposed planing for 4.4.0beta1 the Bug Hunting session Planing is to have a BH session on Beta1 and RC1 Beta1 due date: Week 47 , Nov 17, 2014 - Nov 23, 2014 wiki page setup: week 42 create logo: week 42 first communication on lists: week 43 PR: week 44 (I have to check with Italo as there is several announcements in the pipe) banner on the sites: week 44 Reminder week 46 social media com: week 46 Prepare Moztrap run week 46 Reminder on the lists and social media week 47 Are you ok with it? If yes, I'll create the wiki page and logo later today. Thanks in advance Sophie -- Sophie Gautier sophie.gaut...@documentfoundation.org Tel:+33683901545 Co-founder - Release coordinator The Document Foundation ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
[Libreoffice-qa] Planing for 4.4.0 BH session
Hi all, This is the proposed planing for 4.4.0beta1 the Bug Hunting session Planing is to have a BH session on Beta1 and RC1 Beta1 due date: Week 47 , Nov 17, 2014 - Nov 23, 2014 wiki page setup: week 42 create logo: week 42 first communication on lists: week 43 PR: week 44 (I have to check with Italo as there is several announcements in the pipe) banner on the sites: week 44 Reminder week 46 social media com: week 46 Prepare Moztrap run week 46 Reminder on the lists and social media week 47 Are you ok with it? If yes, I'll create the wiki page and logo later today. Thanks in advance Sophie -- Sophie Gautier sophie.gaut...@documentfoundation.org Tel:+33683901545 Co-founder - Release coordinator The Document Foundation ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
[Libreoffice-qa] Annual report, please add your achievements
Hi all, Flo will soon have to collect the information for the annual report, could you please add what has been achieved by the QA team during 2014 here http://pad.documentfoundation.org/p/annualreport (bug hunting sessions, new members, BZ migration, bibisect, etc... come on top of my mind :) Thanks a lot in advance! Cheers Sophie -- Sophie Gautier sophie.gaut...@documentfoundation.org Tel:+33683901545 Co-founder - Release coordinator The Document Foundation ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] request for more boilerplate responses to bug report
Hi all, Le 10/09/2014 16:18, Robinson Tryon a écrit : On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 9:47 AM, Joel Madero jmadero@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, Am 10.09.2014 um 02:55 schrieb Terrence Enger: I have noticed that Urmas has been abruptly closing bug reports that are in languages other than English. What an arrogant behavior :-( I do wish he'd do it more tactfully - I close them also but I leave a comment and direct them to their native mailing list for translation. Ideally I'd like all of the reporting/translation work to go on in the same bugtracking tool, but that's beyond the capabilities of Bugzilla (and I don't believe it's on anyone's roadmap). I just chatted w/Sophie in IRC, and she thought the l10n (Localization) list was a good idea. She suggested putting the particular language (if you can identify it) in the Subject: line, to ensure that you get a response. Yes,my suggestion is something like in this message: http://go.mail-archive.com/jWFxpBARvvOlKbeFtTj3jZD9lrA= with bug translation in XX language as a subject. Cheers Sophie -- Sophie Gautier sophie.gaut...@documentfoundation.org Tel:+33683901545 Co-founder - Release coordinator Certification Committee Member The Document Foundation ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] LibreOffice 4.3.1 rc1 test builds available
Le 07/08/2014 18:13, Christian Lohmaier a écrit : Hi *, for the upcoming new version 4.3.1 the builds for RC1 are now available on pre-releases. It is a build in release-configuration, meaning that it will update a previous version of LibreOffice on Windows. Linux and Mac users can install alongside LibreOffice 4.2 For information, a Moztrap is ready for your tests :) Thanks in advance Kind regards Sophie ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Toolbar Proposal Completed
Hi Jay, all, Le 30/07/2014 02:09, Jay Philips a écrit : Hi Joel, Well the UX team is already CCed in the bug report and i guess they will get around to it whenever they do, which i assume will take a while. Have my fingers crossed that some portions of the proposal lands in master or the release after that. Definitely think it will help differentiate LO's look from OOo/AOO. But I was mainly just sharing my work with the QA team, as it was a happy occasion for me that i was able to complete it, as this is the team i'm with and welcomed their constructive criticism of it. :D The UX team is currently migrating his work to Redmine, they will have a forum here, a wiki, and ticketing. May be you should open a ticket on Redmine in their area and link to your issue on BZ and then post on their forum. Let me know if you need my help :) Cheers Sophie ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
[Libreoffice-qa] 4.3 final on BSA
Hi all, Just a note that 4.3.0.4 or final is missing on BSA. Cheers Sophie ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
[Libreoffice-qa] Can't launch 4.4.0.0.alpha0_Linux_x86_archive
Hi Cloph, So I tried to launch the debug snapshot you indicated but here is what I get whatever the module I tried: /opt/LibreOfficeDev_4.4.0.0.alpha0_Linux_x86_archive/program/oosplash: error while loading shared libraries: libXinerama.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory Something wrong that I do? Thanks in advance Cheers Sophie ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] 4.3.0 new features and communication
Hi Stuart, Le 03/07/2014 17:50, V Stuart Foote a écrit : Sophi, *, Back with a bit more meat to those issues, also scratch the general issues with UI scroll bar, with the 4.3.0.2 rc2 build they seem to have resolved. Stuart 1. Globally assigned accelerators from VCL vs. UI based GUI's are a mess (e.g. Main Menu vs. StartCenter) fdo#80477 https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=80477 not bumping this to a MAB, just a UX inconsistency to be aware of 2. Icons sets/assignments are incomplete (and substitutes used on menus), or some are simply missing. fdo#75937 https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=75937 The Sifr theme has both missing icons and substitutions from Tango for others. 3. Expert Configuration has serious issues, size navigation. But really bad when Assistive Technology is active. fdo#70465 https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=70465 fdo#73806 https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=73806 4. UI based widget controls -- scroll bar issues (e.g. the sidebar active w/ calc). On Windows 7 sp1, 64-bit en-US with Version: 4.3.0.2 Build ID: 14ed55896fdfcb93ff437b85c4f3e1923d2b1409 the 4.3.0.2 build, the scroll bar activation and removal now seems to behave correctly. Thanks a lot for your feedback. I've noted what you highlighted :) Cheers Sophie ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] 4.3.0 new features and communication
Hi Jay, Le 02/07/2014 22:21, Jay Philips a écrit : Hi Sophie, You should also take a look at #77650, as the PDF export dialog needs a rework for including comments in PDFs. Thanks a lot, I've noticed this one as well. The communication in the PR will highlight the feature in Writer, may be that will help to find someone who is willing to work on it ;) Cheers Sophie ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [tdf-discuss] Intervention
Le 14/07/2014 09:10, jean-christophe manciot a écrit : Hello everyone, I've been aware of the following situation for a long time in the bug report forum, but I thought it would improve over time. Since it hasn't changed at all, I feel I have to blow the whistle on this. As I have already written in a specific thread, here's the situation: Could you point to that thread? I didn't see it on the QA list 1) Almost all bug reports checkcers don't even consider bug reports when they can't get the original file(s); I don't think they don't consider it, it's just very difficult to reproduce a bug without the original condition of the document producing it. I don't know what amount of triage you're doing, but most of the time, as a triager having the original document let you look into it and try to understand how the user meet it. 2) The same people mark bug reports as Resolved - Invalid / Not A Bug even when they are unable to confirm or deny them for whatever reason: no original file, different environment than the reporter, ... could you give bug numbers please, so we (QA members) can have a look at them. 3) It is not always possible for the bug reporters to hand over their original file(s), for many different reasons that are beyond the scope of this thread (confidentiality, legal concerns and so on...). there is most of the time a way to remove the confidential data and if the bug is serious enough to provide the doc directly to developers. I believe it is always possible for the checkers to trust the reporters and follow the steps to reproduce on their own material first; if they can't do that, they probably should ask themselves about their true motivations in this forum. I found what you say not fair for our QA members, they are doing their best to triage hundreds or reports each week. It is rare that the reporters use tricky configurations with tricky files and so on. Each way of work is different, each configuration may have their own settings depending on the company or the work. Moreover, in case these steps are unclear, the reporters are usually available to clarify their point, otherwise they would not have spent their time in the first place.*Only then* can some files be uploaded to check some very uncommon settings or the report be marked as invalid or whatever is the most appropriate. No, it's exactly the contrary, the more the bug is complete and reproducible with the document attached, the less the triager will spend time to reproduce and detail the bug. If the checkers continue to become more and more inflexible on this file issue, the risks are that some reporters will probably drop their cases and their involvement in this forum; the related bugs will remain within LO for a long time... Again, can you please point to bug numbers where you see bugs wrongly marked as invalid. The first work of a triager is to reproduce the bug to confirm it. If he can't confirm or reproduce it, it's because there is not enough information, or the specific document is missing. If his configuration is different (most of the time he has Linux and the bug is Windows or Mac), he requests for another member to triage the bug. Our irc channel is full of these requests, even the QA list. Is this what the checkers and LO community really need? I'm ccing the QA list, please follow up on this list if you want to discuss our triaging work. Kind regards Sophie ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
[Libreoffice-qa] Annual report 2014
Hi all, As last year, we are collecting the achievements of the project during the year to send to the Berlin authorities, but also to serve as a report for the community. The pad is available here: http://pad.documentfoundation.org/p/annualreport Please, fill what you (or your team) have done the last 6 months. Don't hesitate to add links to photos or blog posts. Write only in English and don't be shy about your typos :) Thanks a lot in advance for your participation, it's important and a pleasure for all us to know what is happening in each part of our project! Let me know if you have any question (please, don't do a reply to all). Cheers Sophie ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] 4.3.0 new features and communication
Le 01/07/2014 16:13, Marina Latini a écrit : Hi Sophie, All :) - Messaggio originale - Da: Sophie gautier.sop...@gmail.com A: LibreOffice-QA libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Inviato: Martedì, 1 luglio 2014 15:27:52 Oggetto: [Libreoffice-qa] 4.3.0 new features and communication Hi Joel, Robinson, In order to prepare the communication on the 4.3.0 release, is there some areas that are not stable enough, or where some bugs remain problematics and should be known by the marketing team? bug: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=79673 is a Mac specific problem releted to Nonprinting Characters. They are unusable :( Thanks for your feedback Marina, this is noted, but as this is font/zoom dependent and only Mac, that won't affect the largest user base. Cheers Sophie ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] 4.3.0 new features and communication
Hi Joel, Le 01/07/2014 16:57, Joel Madero a écrit : On 07/01/2014 06:27 AM, Sophie wrote: Hi Joel, Robinson, In order to prepare the communication on the 4.3.0 release, is there some areas that are not stable enough, or where some bugs remain problematics and should be known by the marketing team? Monitoring the MAB didn't give me this impression, but I prefer to have your opinion :) As far as I know there are none. I'll poke bugzilla tonight to see what I can find out. Jay might have some feedback here also (Jay thoughts? Any bugs that indicate that there is an area of 4.3 that is not stable enough or bugs so problematic that we need marketing involved?). ok, thanks a lot! Thanks Sophie for tackling this :) you're welcome :) Cheers Sophie ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] 4.3.0 new features and communication
Hi Alex, Le 02/07/2014 07:45, Alex Thurgood a écrit : Le 01/07/2014 15:27, Sophie a écrit : Hi Sophie, In order to prepare the communication on the 4.3.0 release, is there some areas that are not stable enough, or where some bugs remain problematics and should be known by the marketing team? Monitoring the MAB didn't give me this impression, but I prefer to have your opinion :) I assume that we are not yet announcing Firebird as the default embedded db ? It's still an experimental feature, so no :) Cheers Sophie ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] 4.3.0 new features and communication
Le 02/07/2014 16:41, Marina Latini a écrit : - Messaggio originale - Da: Sophie gautier.sop...@gmail.com A: libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Inviato: Mercoledì, 2 luglio 2014 16:18:13 Oggetto: Re: [Libreoffice-qa] 4.3.0 new features and communication Thanks for your feedback Marina, this is noted, but as this is font/zoom dependent and only Mac, that won't affect the largest user base. Hi Sophie, JFYI, the bug is Mac specific but is font and zoom independent. I'm agree with you, Windows and GNU/Linux users aren't affected but all Mac users can't use nonprinting characters. See Italo's and Joren's attachements to the bug. Oh, I don't say it's not important of course :) just that that doesn't concern the PR on new features in general. Cheers Sophie ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
[Libreoffice-qa] 4.3.0 new features and communication
Hi Joel, Robinson, In order to prepare the communication on the 4.3.0 release, is there some areas that are not stable enough, or where some bugs remain problematics and should be known by the marketing team? Monitoring the MAB didn't give me this impression, but I prefer to have your opinion :) Thanks in advance Kind regards Sophie ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] LibreOffice 4.3.0 rc1 test builds available
Hi all, Le 18/06/2014 19:28, Christian Lohmaier a écrit : Hi *, for the upcoming new version 4.3.0 the builds for RC1 are now available on pre-releases. Just for information, Moztrap has the 4.3.0RC1 run activated now. http://manual-test.libreoffice.org/runtests/ Cheers Sophie ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [MozTrap] Test document 565014.odt footer styled as header?
Hi Thomas, Sorry for the delay Le 14/06/2014 18:52, Thomas Hackert a écrit : Hello Sophie, *, after I have finally finished the Germanophone translation for LO, I wanted to start to test LO 4.3.0.0.beta2 on Debian Testing i686 in MozTrap. Much to my astonishment, I discovered, that the attached test file to test case #137 (http://manual-test.libreoffice.org/manage/caseversion/1351/) has headers and footers, which are formatted as headers ... :( Is this an error on my system, a bug in LO, or do I just misunderstand the test description of the test case (the file attached to it is http://manual-test.libreoffice.org/media/attachments/2013/11/18/56513.odt)? I would expect some more different formatting with headers (default ones, headers left, headers right) and footers (the same as with the headers ... ;) ), but as I was not able to create a document with different headers and footers on its page (is this a bug or is it not implemented at the moment)? So to be able to create a document with different headers/footers, you need to apply a different page styles for each. For the document in the test, you're right the footer style has not been applied. I'll change it with your suggestions. Steps to reproduce: 1. Start Writer 2. Download http://manual-test.libreoffice.org/media/attachments/2013/11/18/56513.odt 3. Open it in Writer 4. Press F11 and click in the header and footer of each page yes, thanks a lot for your feedback, I'll upload a new document for the RC1 run :) Cheers Sophie ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
[Libreoffice-qa] LibOCon Registration and Visa
Hi all, The registration for the LibreOffice Conference in Bern is open and will end mid-July. Registering will greatly help our organization team to get an idea of how many of you guys are going to attend the conference. *If you need a visa*, you can contact Ronny Standtke for any help, you will find all the detailed information on this page http://conference.libreoffice.org/2014/visa/ If you want to attend the conference, we ask you to register within the deadline at http://conference.libreoffice.org/2014/registration/ If you check here the need for a visa, Ronny will contact you back to help you. In case you do not want to attend the conference yet, I’d like to advertise a bit more. :) Our program committee is investing lots of time to make this conference an unforgettable, noteworthy event, and we are proud to give a program with a vivid mixture of development, community, marketing, infrastructure and many other working areas of the LibreOffice project. The program will be provided asap on the Conference website. Last but not least, this is your chance to meet the faces behind the LibreOffice community: developers, marketeers, admins, localizers, documentation writers, designers and many, many more. We’ll all have a great time in Bern, and want you to be a part of it! If you have any question or problem regarding registration, don't hesitate to send a mail to confere...@libreoffice.org Looking forward to meeting you in Bern! Kind regards Sophie ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] LibreOfficeDev 4.3.0 beta2 test builds available
Hi Cloph, Le 05/06/2014 11:50, Christian Lohmaier a écrit : Hi *, for the upcoming new version 4.3.0 the builds for Beta2 are now available on pre-releases. (some windows helppacks still uploading) It is a LibreOfficeDev build, meaning that it won't replace your stable version of LibreOffice, but can be installed alongside LibreOffice 4.2 Also note that while the build is also a key-ID build for translators, and beta1 did mark feature freeze, string and ui freeze are still to come. Thanks a lot :) Cheers Sophie ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
[Libreoffice-qa] 4.3.0 general release meeting: pick your date!
Hi all, Going on with the 4.3.0 general release meeting organization, I've set a Doodle with several dates around RC1. This meeting is done to ease the coordination and communication between the groups working on the release, such as website, design, l10n, QA, marketing, but every body is invited of course :) We will meet on IRC on the channel usually used for the marketing meetings. This meeting will last one hour max. The agenda will be populated here: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/GeneralReleaseMeeting Don't hesitate to add your own points. Doodle link: http://doodle.com/c65dt3v654vn4hst please, pick your favorite date and time between the 18th and 21st of June (you can display the corresponding time in your country). Let me know if you have any question or request. Cheers Sophie ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
[Libreoffice-qa] Last call for your papers!
Hi all, This is the last call for your talk proposal(s) at the Bern conference, after the end of the week, it will be too late, so stop what you're doing and write it now! (and don't forget to send it ;-) Even if it's short and last 10 mn, just share what you know, we are eager to learn from you. http://conference.libreoffice.org/ Let me know if you need any help or have any question. Cheers Sophie ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] What should Calc Chart GL3D do?
Hi Thomas, Le 24/05/2014 19:08, Thomas Hackert a écrit : Hello Markus, *, On Sa, 24. Mai 2014 18:24 Markus Mohrhard wrote: On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 4:57 PM, Thomas Hackert thack...@nexgo.de wrote: [new GL3D chart] Steps to reproduce: 1. Start Calc 2. Insert Value 1, 1, 3, 5 in the first column 3. Insert Value 2, 2, 4, 6 in the second column (you can even add a third column with Value 3, 3, 6, 9 or even different headers, type of data like date, time, temperature, etc. in it ... ;) ) 4. Go to Insert – Object – Chart... and click on GL3D Bar below Choose a chart type It does not lead to any different observation, if you click through the Chart Wizard via Next button or if you click on Finish on my system ... :( I only get a white frame (object?) without any chart in it ... :( Would someone be so kind to try it on a different system? Or is here someone who can explain this chart or its functionality? LO: Version: 4.3.0.0.beta1 Build ID: 2e39c7e59c8fc8b16a54c3d981dceef27fb0c07f OS: Debian Testing i686 (parallel installed, following the instructions from https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Installing_in_parallel) with Germanophone lang- as well as helppack This feature is not ready for general use and will be removed for the next beta build. Please ignore it for now unless you want to But then ... Why are its string in Pootle now? Would it not be best to remove them there, too? As we have already translated them, then better let them here for when the feature will be ready, no need to double the work for the l10n team, I'm sure they can be commented or extracted or ?, so we don't have to bother about them but don't lose our work :) Cheers Sophie ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
[Libreoffice-qa] Add 4.3.0.beta1 to BZ
Hi all, Could someone add 4.3.0 beta 1 to BZ, thanks :) Cheers Sophie ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Add 4.3.0.beta1 to BZ
Le 22/05/2014 17:26, Joel Madero a écrit : Hey Sophie! On 05/22/2014 08:17 AM, Sophie wrote: Hi all, Could someone add 4.3.0 beta 1 to BZ, thanks :) Done :) Thanks a lot :) Cheers Sophie ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] 4.3 Bug Hunting Weekend!
Hi all, Le 22/05/2014 18:02, Pedro a écrit : Hi Joel jmadero wrote To download /_*latest daily build*_/ of 4.3 please go here: http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/master/ Clearly none of my business but wouldn't it make more sense that everybody is using the same build aka the official Beta1 instead of getting a build from some random Tinderbox? I've added the pre-release link to the wiki page, so I think people will download this one. Moztrap is ready too. The reminder has been sent to the social networks, I hope we will see many people during the week end :) Cheers Sophie ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] 4.3 Bug Hunting Weekend!
Le 22/05/2014 18:32, Joel Madero a écrit : On May 22, 2014 9:09 AM, Bjoern Michaelsen bjoern.michael...@canonical.com wrote: Hi Pedro, Joel, On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 09:02:09AM -0700, Pedro wrote: jmadero wrote To download /_*latest daily build*_/ of 4.3 please go here: http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/master/ ... wouldn't it make more sense that everybody is using the same build aka the official Beta1 instead of getting a build from some random Tinderbox? I tend to agree with Pedro here. People who have done a lot of testing will have various builds anyway, but for people trying out QA for the first time, the beta1 build is likely the best thing to get started. Indeed my mistake. Pedro - you are a big part of the team of course it's your business if I give bad info ;) Can we get the right link? I'm responding via phone. http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/pre-releases/ Cheers Sophie ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
[Libreoffice-qa] Call for papers: last days!
Hi all, Tomorrow is the end of call for proposals, so don't miss the date! All the information we need for the moment is an abstract of your talk and your bio. I'm sure you have something you want to share with us, so write it just now :) Where to post it? http://conference.libreoffice.org/2014/call-for-papers Cheers Sophie ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
[Libreoffice-qa] Preparing 4.3.0 coordination between teams
Hi all, For information, I will organize a general 4.3.0 release meeting on week 25. The purpose of this meeting will be to coordinate the different teams and make sure nothing is left aside. I'll set a wiki page for the agenda of the meeting, don't hesitate to add your points to this agenda. I'll post the link later today. It would be good to have people from Marketing, l10n, UX and QA. If you have questions about this meeting, let me know. Cheers Sophie ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...
Hi all, Le 08/05/2014 17:29, Michael Meeks a écrit : [...] + 4.2.4 RC2 status + announced today as final, enabled the update too. + update was broken + none of the 4.2.x was updated so far, until today. + discovered the ver. included the git hash there. + thanks to report from Michael Stahl. + we lean on QA to check this cf. MozTrap ... AI:+ poke Sophie to query that (Cloph) The test is now on MozTrap and will be available for the next runs. Cheers Sophie ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Website QA Suggestions, links to other languages
Hi Harald, Le 07/05/2014 17:44, Harald Köster a écrit : Hi all, at the moment on the LibreOffice home page there are no links to home pages in other languages. I think for a world wide project it should be a matter of course to provide such links, so that also users who are not familiar with English are able to find informations in their language fast. Your question should be posted on the website list. However, to answer you, click on Community button, there you have the NLP listed. Cheers Sophie ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Question of the use of 'Fresh' rather than 'Beta' and support for XP
Hi, Le 05/05/2014 15:36, Bjoern Michaelsen a écrit : Hi, On Mon, May 05, 2014 at 04:59:37PM +0400, Jay Philips wrote: Yes initially i was confused as i was used to seeing chrome's labelling there releases as development, beta and stable.I think it would be great if the website would provide better explanation on the download pages of what each of the versions was for so that users would understand what they were downloading. http://blogs.computerworlduk.com/simon-says/2014/03/libreoffice-gets-fresh-and-stable/index.htm?utm_content=buffer5d3d0utm_medium=socialutm_source=twitter.comutm_campaign=buffer explains it nicely as does our wiki (even since before we labeled the stuff fresh and stable. Putting it on the webpage is not a good idea, as most users just want their download without too much hassle. Those interested in the nitty gritty will find it. Also think that the download page would be a great location to encourage users to submit bugs. It already does. If you have concrete further suggestions, please take them to the website mailing list. I believe that if we wish to encourage users to submit bugs to LibO, then we need to have bug reporting more visible in the UI, like a bug icon in the app toolbar similar to the help icon, maybe a crash report dialog that appears after LibO crashes (like KDE), maybe a bug report button next to 'Help' and 'Extensions' in the main UI, and possibly an initial bug report request visible to users when they first run LibO. So, for one the main barrier to bug reporting is not a missing toolbar button etc.(although we already even have report a problem in the menu) but the hassles of needing a bugzilla account setup. Migrating to our own bugzilla will hopefully allow us simplifications there. If you are interested to help out there, Robinson will certainly be happy to get you started. The other thing is that we are not so much lacking bug reports, but lacking GOOD bug reports that have complete triaging info, reproduction scenarios etc. o the last thing we want really is making it simpler for people to file bad or incomplete bug reports that cause us more work than they help us. yes, and having bug reports in multiple languages won't help :) Cheers Sophie ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] ODF compatibility tests
Hi Jay, Le 02/05/2014 14:21, Jay Philips a écrit : Hi All, I was curious what compatibility tests are being run to ensure that LibO displays ODF accurately. I had asked a similar question a few days back on the LibO QA mailing list but never got a response. Is there an archive of standard compliant odf 1.0/1.1 and 1.2 files that is available? Alternatively, is there an ODF test to validate if a ODF file outputted by an ODF compatible software complies to the ODF standard and can output the file as a pdf to show how it should be rendered, somewhat similar to the Acid test for CSS. As part of my extensive testing of .docx files in LibO, i'm currently testing ODF outputted by LibO to see how well its imported into Word 2010 and 2013, as well as testing ODF outputted by Word 2010 and 2013 to see how well its imported into LibO. It would be nice to have a ODF software that i could use its output as a reference to compare these results against, as i've found ODF outputted by word 2010 that doesnt open correctly in LibO but did in Calligra Words and i've also found ODF files on libreoffice.org that displayed differences in LibO 4.1 and 4.2. Currently if a .doc, .docx or .rtf loads different between LibO and ms word, i report these bugs, but if there are load differences for .odt files its difficult to know if its a LibO or ms word problem. If you are interested, I'm maintaining a tool for the QA team, mainly for manual regression tests, but also to tests new features. It's called MozTrap and you can find it here : http://manual-test.libreoffice.org/results/runs/ I would like to add more regression tests on import/export to Office formats, but I don't have Windows or Office so it makes it difficult for me to write accurate tests. Would you be interested to help me to write them correctly and add some samples to tests. Here is MozTrap guide: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/MozTrap/User_Guide Kind regards Sophie -- Sophie Gautier sophie.gaut...@documentfoundation.org Tel:+33683901545 Membership Certification Committee Member - Co-founder The Document Foundation ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] ODF compatibility tests
Hi Jay,, Le 02/05/2014 17:40, Jay Philips a écrit : Hi Sophie, If you are not already aware, you can create office documents at office.com as it is free. I have created a few tests there myself, but prefer to use ms word myself. Yes, thanks, but it's not exactly the same as local version and I don't know what version is used online so it makes the test less trustful on a QA perspective. I could definitely supply you with any sample files that you need to run the tests, but unfortunately i dont think i would have the time to manage test runs myself. Of course, I don't want you to manage test runs :) but if you could supply me with few docs and what needs to be tested based on your experience, it would be great. Cheers Sophie Jay Philips On 05/02/2014 07:20 PM, Sophie wrote: Hi Jay, Le 02/05/2014 14:21, Jay Philips a écrit : Hi All, I was curious what compatibility tests are being run to ensure that LibO displays ODF accurately. I had asked a similar question a few days back on the LibO QA mailing list but never got a response. Is there an archive of standard compliant odf 1.0/1.1 and 1.2 files that is available? Alternatively, is there an ODF test to validate if a ODF file outputted by an ODF compatible software complies to the ODF standard and can output the file as a pdf to show how it should be rendered, somewhat similar to the Acid test for CSS. As part of my extensive testing of .docx files in LibO, i'm currently testing ODF outputted by LibO to see how well its imported into Word 2010 and 2013, as well as testing ODF outputted by Word 2010 and 2013 to see how well its imported into LibO. It would be nice to have a ODF software that i could use its output as a reference to compare these results against, as i've found ODF outputted by word 2010 that doesnt open correctly in LibO but did in Calligra Words and i've also found ODF files on libreoffice.org that displayed differences in LibO 4.1 and 4.2. Currently if a .doc, .docx or .rtf loads different between LibO and ms word, i report these bugs, but if there are load differences for .odt files its difficult to know if its a LibO or ms word problem. If you are interested, I'm maintaining a tool for the QA team, mainly for manual regression tests, but also to tests new features. It's called MozTrap and you can find it here : http://manual-test.libreoffice.org/results/runs/ I would like to add more regression tests on import/export to Office formats, but I don't have Windows or Office so it makes it difficult for me to write accurate tests. Would you be interested to help me to write them correctly and add some samples to tests. Here is MozTrap guide: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/MozTrap/User_Guide Kind regards Sophie ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/ -- Sophie Gautier sophie.gaut...@documentfoundation.org Tel:+33683901545 Membership Certification Committee Member - Co-founder The Document Foundation ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
[Libreoffice-qa] Report on the last MozTrap runs
Hi all, Some info on MozTrap last runs and a big big thank you to all who participates :) * 4.2.3 rc1, 40 tests passed, 3 bugs found https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=74314 https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=73627 https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=74314 * 4.2.3 rc2, 5 tests passed, 5 bugs found l10n bug https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=75107 https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=74314 https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=73627 https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=74314 * 4.2.3 rc3, 6 tests passed, 1 bug found https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=74314 * 4.2.4 rc1, 45 tests passed, 6 bugs found (still open) https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=74314 https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=75125 https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=36584 https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=77881 https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=77899 https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=74314 One bug (74134) is covering two test cases, that's why it appears several times. Cheers Sophie -- Sophie Gautier sophie.gaut...@documentfoundation.org Tel:+33683901545 Membership Certification Committee Member - Co-founder The Document Foundation ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Here is a list of files for QA
Hi, Le 23/04/2014 02:09, 810d4rk a écrit : Hi, Where can I send documents that have problems in libreoffice? You should check for open bugs on bugzilla, open a new bug if it's not already filled and join your document with a step by step explanation on how to reproduce the issue. See: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/BugReport Attached are some that I think would be good to include for testing. The pdf one make libreoffice 4.2.3 crash. Just for information, it doesn't crash for me in Version: 4.2.4.1 Build ID: d4c441391e20647b3d2e8dde4d20aa868e77e515 Ubuntu 14.04, opens fine. Kind regards Sophie ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
[Libreoffice-qa] Preparing MozTrap tests for 4.3.x
Hi all, I'll upload the tests for the 4.3.x branch soon in MozTrap and will set runs for the version if some of you want to play with it. Do you have any special requests regarding the tests on this version, a feature that needs more review, or regressions that need specific tests? Thanks Sophie ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Planing bug hunting session 4.3.0 beta 1
Hi, Le 09/04/2014 20:48, Joel Madero a écrit : On 04/07/2014 11:54 PM, Sophie wrote: Hi all, So I reintroduce this amended with Joel remarks: Target: 4.3.0 beta1 on week 21 (May 19-25) Banner on the website: week 16 (April 14-20) First communication: week 17 (April 21-27) Reminder: week 19 (May 5-11) Announcement: May 18. If you agree with that, I'll open a ticket on Redmine and request Italo's help. As you see the first action is for next week with the banner on the website. +1 So I've opened ticket #365 on Redmine, will take care of the banner for next week and will create the wiki page. Cheers Sophie ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
[Libreoffice-qa] banner next bug hunt proposal
Hi all, Proposal for the banner is uploaded here, feedback welcome :) https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Bughuntban.png Cheers Sophie Membership Certification Committee Member - Co-founder The Document Foundation ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Planing bug hunting session 4.3.0 beta 1
Hi Robinson, Le 10/04/2014 15:24, Robinson Tryon a écrit : On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 5:49 AM, Sophie gautier.sop...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Le 09/04/2014 20:48, Joel Madero a écrit : On 04/07/2014 11:54 PM, Sophie wrote: Hi all, So I reintroduce this amended with Joel remarks: Target: 4.3.0 beta1 on week 21 (May 19-25) Banner on the website: week 16 (April 14-20) First communication: week 17 (April 21-27) Reminder: week 19 (May 5-11) Announcement: May 18. If you agree with that, I'll open a ticket on Redmine and request Italo's help. As you see the first action is for next week with the banner on the website. +1 So I've opened ticket #365 on Redmine, will take care of the banner for next week and will create the wiki page. Hi, I can't seem to access issue #365 on Redmine -- could you double-check that # ? I've added it to the Public Relation folder which is one dedicated for Italo, that's why you don't access it I think. But that's only for info here, I only pasted the mail with the dates, it's easier for Italo to handle than scrolling in the archives :) Cheers Sophie ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] LIbreOffice 4.2.3 RC3 available
Hi all, Le 07/04/2014 01:27, Christian Lohmaier a écrit : Dear Community, The Document Foundation is pleased to announce the third release candidate of LibreOffice 4.2.3. The upcoming 4.2.3 will be the third in a sequence of frequent bugfix releases for our feature-packed 4.2 line. Feel free to give it a try instead of 4.2.2. Conservative users should continue to use LibreOffice 4.1.5 For information, I've activated a run for this version http://manual-test.libreoffice.org/results/runs/? Thanks in advance for your tests! Cheers Sophie ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Who is currently testing Android/iOS remotes?
Hi Thomas, Le 06/04/2014 18:50, Thomas Hackert a écrit : Hello Robinson, *, On Sonntag, 6. April 2014 18:13 Robinson Tryon wrote: On Sun, Apr 6, 2014 at 11:24 AM, Thomas Hackert thack...@nexgo.de wrote: You cannot test that much with Impress Remote in Android 4.2.2 on an Acer A1-810 with Impress Remote: 1. Click on the four squares to get an overview of all existing slides in an presentation 2. Select one of them to switch to this slide on your laptop, netbook, desktop PC or whatever 3. Set the timer for the stopwatch and start it 4. Start/Stop the presentation or Start pointer (which for some reason is the only untranslated part in Impress Remote ... :( ) and stop the pointer afterwards ... ;) Thanks for a quick set of tests -- it'll be great to build on those in MozTrap. I hope, Sophie will do it. Otherwise I have to find the old mails again, where Yifan explained it to Sophie ... ;) I'll do it :) Cheers Sophie ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Who is currently testing Android/iOS remotes?
Le 03/04/2014 20:23, Robinson Tryon a écrit : Hi all, As a part of our testing of LibreOffice, it's important that make sure that our Android and iOS remotes are held to the same standards as our primary application. Right now, I don't see anyone in the QA Team listed as being available to test the iOS remote, and see just a couple of names available for Android: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Team I think that Steve Bell and Florian R. may have previously indicated that they both could both help out with testing on iOS yes? :-) Testing the remote shouldn't take too long -- in fact, this seems like an ideal use-case for MozTrap, where one could just walk through a list of manual tests to perform and complete the process in under half an hour. Sophie -- could you help us set up a list of tests to perform with each remote? I can add the tests, but it's difficult to write them when you don't have the material :) so I'll try to see what I can do for Android and if somebody can write it of iOS, I'll upload it to MozTrap. Cheers Sophie ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] LibreOffice 4.2.3 RC2 test builds available
Hi all, For information, I've activated a test run for 4.2.3 RC2 here http://manual-test.libreoffice.org/runtests/ Thanks in advance for your participation ! Cheers Sophie Le 27/03/2014 12:14, Christian Lohmaier a écrit : Hi *, for the upcoming new version 4.2.3, the builds for rc1 are now available on pre-releases. As with the previous builds, there are also 64bit builds for Mac available. See https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleasePlan/4.2#4.2.3_release for the complete schedule. (no additional rc is planned for 4.2.3) Grab the builds from here here: http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/pre-releases/ If you've a bit of time, please give them a try report any severe bugs not yet in bugzilla here, so we can incorporate them into the release notes. Please note that it takes approximately 24 hours to populate the mirrors, so that's about the time we have to collect feedback. The list of fixed bugs relative to 4.2.3 RC1 is here: http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/pre-releases/src/bugs-libreoffice-4-2-3-release-4.2.3.2.log So playing with the areas touched there also greatly appreciated - and validation that those bugs are really fixed. Special thanks to all QA, developers, bugreporters who did make this possible. You'll find the number of bugs along with the names in the wiki ( https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Releases/4.2.3/RC2#Thanks_to_all_who_took_part_in_handling_the_issues ) Of course also big thanks to contributors who do great work in other areas that cannot be put into numbers! Thanks a lot for your help, Christian ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/ -- Sophie Gautier sophie.gaut...@documentfoundation.org Tel:+33683901545 Membership Certification Committee Member - Co-founder The Document Foundation ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
[Libreoffice-qa] Typo in Norwegian UI
Hi Olav, There seems to be a typo in the Norwegian interface, see: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=76643 Thanks to close the bug when you've corrected it :) Cheers Sophie ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
