Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [libreoffice-accessibility] Adding "Accessibility" component to Bug Assistant

2012-09-08 Thread Ti tengo d'occhio
Hi Rainer,

well, I didn't know that there were developers focused on specific components; 
in this case adding an "accessibility component" won't be the best thing to do, 
in my opinion…

> At this point I think we could go for solution C or solution A; in case of 
> solution A, would it be possible to view all issues with the pseudo-keyword 
> "accessibility"?

However I think that solution C could be very suitable; in drupal, for 
instance, to report accessibility issues there are two special tags:
- Accessibility: it means that this is an accessibility issue (it could be a 
bug, a feature request, a task, etc etc) ;
- "needs accessibility review": this means that the issue or the patch to solve 
it needs to be tested by a blind user or an accessibility expert.

Now we could choose to use only the "accessibility" keyword or maybe both 
"accessibility" and "needs accessibility review", I don't know; but also using 
just the first keyword would be a great thing…

   Vincenzo.

Il giorno 31/ago/2012, alle ore 06:36, Rainer Bielefeld 
 ha scritto:

> Ti tengo d'occhio schrieb:
> 
>> in my opinion it would be great to have a component for accessibility;
>> it could let developers to better focus on accessibility bugs and, on
>> the other hand, blind people to know that accessibility is important for
>> this project and that submitting bug reports of this type is more than
>> encouraged…
> 
> Hi,
> 
> the advantage of an "Accessibility" Component would be that it can easily be 
> selected from a pulldown, no typos or other mistakes can happen.But a problem 
> is that an "Accessibility" Component would not indicate what developer might 
> be the one who can fix the problem. So it always would be replaced during the 
> bug triaging and fixing process.
> 
> An other possibility would be a Whiteboard entry, but that only can be done 
> after a report in a second step, typos might happen, it is too modest.
> 
> So I currently think about a Bug Submission Assistant enhancement. We can add 
> a checkbox "Accessibility affected", and the Assistant will add 
> "Accessibility"
> a) as additional pseudo key word to the Bug Summary line. The advantage of 
> this solution is that the key word would be very visible.
> or
> b) as additional pseudo key word to the whiteboard
> or will
> c) set Key word "Accessibility" to the Keyword pane (it should not be a 
> problem to get this new key word from FDO). The advantae of this solution is 
> that it also eases and unifies handling in Bugzilla itself, not only via BSA.
> 
> And of course
> d) New Component "Accessibility"
> still can be discussed.
> 
> My order of preference (descending):
> c - a - b - d
> 
> Your opinion?
> 
> When we have a solution here, we can start to mark and process accessibility 
> bugs with increased priority.
> 
> Best regards
> 
> Rainer
> 
> 
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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [libreoffice-accessibility] Adding "Accessibility" component to Bug Assistant

2012-08-25 Thread Ti tengo d'occhio
Hi all,

in my opinion it would be great to have a component for accessibility; it could 
let developers to better focus on accessibility bugs and, on the other hand, 
blind people to know that accessibility is important for this project and that 
submitting bug reports of this type is more than encouraged…

Let's take, for instance, the mac os x version of LO: unfortunately it contains 
tons of accessibility bugs that make impossible to use it for a blind user; if 
I would submit them with the label "accessibility" developers could understand 
faster what works and what doesn't...

Just my opinion; maybe I am late, but I decided to share the opinion from my 
blind-user waiting for an accessible mac os x version of lo perspective...

  Vincenzo.

Il giorno 19/ago/2012, alle ore 10:29, Rainer Bielefeld 
 ha scritto:

> Roman Eisele schrieb:
>> Am 18.08.12 03:57, schrieb Marc Paré:
>>> Would it make sense to add "Accessibility" as another component to the
>>> Bug Assistant? Maybe this would encourage people to submit more
>>> accessibility bugs? Not to mention that the component would show at the
>>> very first steps of reporting, which may help people find it more easily
>>> if they are reporting with the use of a reader?
>> 
>> IMHO we should not have too many components, because this will make it
>> more difficult (instead of easier) to find the matching one, but I
>> second this proposal. Free and open software should be open for as many
>> people as possible, so accessibility is a very important feature for a
>> FLOSS office suite like LibreOffice, and therefore it may be helpful to
>> have a special component for issues related to accessibility. At least
>> the special component will remind us all everyday about the importance
>> of considering accessibility everywhere ;-).
>> 
>> Just my 2 cents ;-)
> 
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I agree with Roman, but it might be a problem for a disabled user do have to 
> search BSA until he finds ACCESSIBILITY at UI?
> 
> One way would be to add it as Sub Component to all relevant Components, or of 
> course, adding a component.
> 
> May be we can get advice from accessibil...@global.libreoffice.org?
> 
> Best regards
> 
> Rainer
> 
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