Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [Moztrap] Question for Test Case #305
Hi Thomas, I see, it is better to have people reviewing the cases. Before that, I think the way we are working on is also good to optimize test case: Some one write cases - people find it unclear or buggy - update test case to be more understandable BTW, I didn't comment on more details in caseversion#305 because I saw the problematic wording in the steps description as well. Do you mind if I try to update the case next week, though I am not a native speaker either :) Best wishes, Yifan Thomas Hackert thack...@nexgo.de 04/14/13 3:04 PM Would you please help to update the English version as well? Thanks! Well, I have done it in the past, when I was sure, that something was wrong ... ;) But ... As I am not a native speaker of the English language (and my last English lesson was years ago, so I forgot too many things ... :( ), I would prefer someone more knowledgeable than me to have a look at the test cases (but the Wiki pages about QA/testing as well ... ;) ) ... ;) Have a nice day Thomas. TOFU removed -- NP: Math The Band – Ode to Carjackers ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/ ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [Moztrap] Question for Test Case #305
Hi Thomas, Your revising is obviously better, thanks for the detailed review, which is what I always wanted to do :) The current test cases descriptions are far less than perfect, so fixing these wording problems at any time are pretty valuable and appreciated. Would you please help to update the English version as well? Thanks! Best wishes, Yifan Thomas Hackert thack...@nexgo.de 04/13/13 4:15 PM Hello Yifan, *, next translation round, next problem, sorry ... :( I tried to translate test case #305 (http://vm12.documentfoundation.org/manage/caseversion/305/), where I stumbled upon the following description: quote 3. All the field with A Save as dialog appears to allow given a name to the table /quote Is there some text missing after All the field with? Or is my English too bad to understand it? I think, it should be something like quote 3. All the fields with the possibility to enter something in it, will be filled. A Save as dialog appears to allow given a name to the table /quote or am I wrong here? Native speakers may correct me or improve it, if I have made a mistake here ... ;) Sorry for the inconvenience and have a nice day Thomas. -- Sometimes a man who deserves to be looked down upon because he is a fool is despised only because he is a lawyer. -- Montesquieu ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/ ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
[Libreoffice-qa] [A
Dear community, I am delighted to announce that we have enabled the new name of Moztrap: http://manual-test.libreoffice.org Notice: The old name vm12.documentfoundation.org may still visible but no functional consistency is guaranteed. Thanks for Florian, Petr, Klaus-jürgen, Sophie, Rimas etc. help out everything! Any problem, please do not hesitate to report :-) Also I want to take the opportunity to thanks all for your strong support of Libreoffice QA, Litmus and Moztrap! I hope we will have another harvest year in 2013 :) Merry Christmas Happy New Year! Best wishes, Yifan -- Yifan Jiang Libreoffice / SUSE Contact: yifan - irc.freenode.net/libreoffice = http://www.libreoffice.org/ http://www.documentfoundation.org/ ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
[Libreoffice-qa] Moztrap new domain name enabled!
The original subject was truncated somehow, correct it :-) Yi Fan Jiang yfji...@suse.com 12/25/12 4:28 PM Dear community, I am delighted to announce that we have enabled the new name of Moztrap: http://manual-test.libreoffice.org Notice: The old name vm12.documentfoundation.org may still visible but no functional consistency is guaranteed. Thanks for Florian, Petr, Klaus-jürgen, Sophie, Rimas etc. help out everything! Any problem, please do not hesitate to report :-) Also I want to take the opportunity to thanks all for your strong support of Libreoffice QA, Litmus and Moztrap! I hope we will have another harvest year in 2013 :) Merry Christmas Happy New Year! Best wishes, Yifan -- Yifan Jiang Libreoffice / SUSE Contact: yifan - irc.freenode.net/libreoffice = http://www.libreoffice.org/ http://www.documentfoundation.org/ ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Litmus
Hi klaus-jürgen, That's fabulous, thanks a lot for your work! ;-) Best wishes, Yifan klaus-jürgen weghorn olo...@sophia-louise.de 12/20/12 8:13 PM Am 20.12.2012 12:02, schrieb Yifan Jiang: In addition, the wiki page needs to update as well, I guess it will be as simple as changing all vm12.documentfoundation.org to the new name :) I'll do it later on any way. I think I got the most links on the wiki. Please check. -- Grüße k-j ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Fwd: Re: [tdf-discuss] LibreOffice 4.0 Test Marathon
Hi Lucian, Many thanks to summarize the cases. Unfortunately I couldn't merge them into Moztrap immediately because of some urgent works these days. I'll have a review later and look forward arranging to populate them to Moztrap this or next week. I'll let you know if this is done, your monitoring of the progress will be also appreciated :) Besides I am glad if we can work together for that! Thanks again for coordinating this in Romania :) Best wishes, Yifan On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 03:00:32AM +0200, oprea.l...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I could not type anything into MozTrap because I focused on coordinating activities in Romania - http://tableta.ceata.org/p/Maraton_de_testare_de_LibreOffice_4.0_la_Ceata But for those who want to test may use and populate the files available online at * Test LibreOffice Launcher - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0At9lOM8_6gsLdEhwOWJ5WkprLW90T09RZWw1ZkFBSkE#gid=0 * Test Writer LibreOffice - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0At9lOM8_6gsLdDliQV9YQjhiWFFrTW53SDhqUWVZbVE#gid=0 * Test Calc LibreOffice - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0At9lOM8_6gsLdE0xRllDNGd1QWpOR25tZnk2UkI2aFE#gid=0 * Test Impress LibreOffice - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0At9lOM8_6gsLdGdtb2h1V0Z5U2lXS29mMEQyaXIxdGc#gid=0 * Test LibreOffice Base - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0At9lOM8_6gsLdEpOQXViNW9leVBjeEZjc09TUTlCZlE#gid=0 * Test LibreOffice Math - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0At9lOM8_6gsLdC1RcWROZnZkbS02VjNFbzN6cExhUGc#gid=0 * Test LIbreOffice other - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0At9lOM8_6gsLdEtKYjkzcW5Ua2lvVmJxLVp1TU9JOXc#gid=0 and obtained scenarios will be introduced in future tests MozTrap. If you agree, should be popularized these links. I will monitor the work. Lucian, - Lucian Oprea Telefon: 0745 592602 Comunitatea openSUSE Romania - http://suseromania.ro Comunitatea LibreOffice Romania - http://libreoffice.ro Pe 13.12.2012 04:50, Yi Fan Jiang a scris: Hi Lucian, On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 03:17:10AM +0200, oprea.l...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Yifan, In MozTrap seems easy to work (there are a few things you need to understand). It's wonderful you feel it is easy to work with :) Until then, we have created here https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0At9lOM8_6gsLdEhwOWJ5WkprLW90T09RZWw1ZkFBSkE # gid = 0 several test scenarios (we went from something I found on the wiki). I think we created enough test scenariosfor Luncher LibreOffice . Please see and bring observations if necessary. Thanks, they look good, and I guess many items were covered by existed Moztrap test cases. I saw a bunch of different launch scenario, which is nice. But in Moztrap they could be classified to be 2-3 test cases for easy and neat navigating, then detaching each of the rows in the gdocs to different steps in a Moztrap test case. Unfortunately, it's a lot of work and time does not allow me to complete this work in a few days alone. The first step merging of these test cases to Moztrap need not to be perfect. Please feel free to copy and paste. I really hope you can smoothly try to employ Moztrap as much as possible this time. The only 2 tiny problems need to be concern are avoiding duplication and merging some rows of cases with similar subjects to one single test case. Meanwhile, we will definitely find a way to work this out before 16 Dec :) How about point the QA people to Moztrap, which simply having a 4.0 testing run based on existed cases. Together referring to your gdoc link for further testing. In that case, QA may naturally filter out those duplicated ones at this time. Nice things of adapting Moztrap for manual testing benifits to all of people is we can share the testing results among each other, the bugs found can be attached to a test case, more over no duplication effort will be conducted in Moztrap. And more ... Propose that future TDF to support a group of tests to ensure the quality LibreOffice. I'd be happy to take care of this activity. It would be great if you are gonna be part of this! Best wishes, Yifan -- Yifan Jiang Libreoffice / SUSE Contact: yifan - irc.freenode.net/libreoffice = http://www.libreoffice.org/ http://www.documentfoundation.org/ ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Fwd: Re: [tdf-discuss] LibreOffice 4.0 Test Marathon
Hi Lucian, On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 03:17:10AM +0200, oprea.l...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Yifan, In MozTrap seems easy to work (there are a few things you need to understand). It's wonderful you feel it is easy to work with :) Until then, we have created here https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0At9lOM8_6gsLdEhwOWJ5WkprLW90T09RZWw1ZkFBSkE # gid = 0 several test scenarios (we went from something I found on the wiki). I think we created enough test scenariosfor Luncher LibreOffice . Please see and bring observations if necessary. Thanks, they look good, and I guess many items were covered by existed Moztrap test cases. I saw a bunch of different launch scenario, which is nice. But in Moztrap they could be classified to be 2-3 test cases for easy and neat navigating, then detaching each of the rows in the gdocs to different steps in a Moztrap test case. Unfortunately, it's a lot of work and time does not allow me to complete this work in a few days alone. The first step merging of these test cases to Moztrap need not to be perfect. Please feel free to copy and paste. I really hope you can smoothly try to employ Moztrap as much as possible this time. The only 2 tiny problems need to be concern are avoiding duplication and merging some rows of cases with similar subjects to one single test case. Meanwhile, we will definitely find a way to work this out before 16 Dec :) How about point the QA people to Moztrap, which simply having a 4.0 testing run based on existed cases. Together referring to your gdoc link for further testing. In that case, QA may naturally filter out those duplicated ones at this time. Nice things of adapting Moztrap for manual testing benifits to all of people is we can share the testing results among each other, the bugs found can be attached to a test case, more over no duplication effort will be conducted in Moztrap. And more ... Propose that future TDF to support a group of tests to ensure the quality LibreOffice. I'd be happy to take care of this activity. It would be great if you are gonna be part of this! Best wishes, Yifan -- Yifan Jiang Libreoffice / SUSE Contact: yifan - irc.freenode.net/libreoffice = http://www.libreoffice.org/ http://www.documentfoundation.org/ ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Moztrap OpenID support - go for testing!
Hi Terry, Don't worry about the delay :) I wasn't aware of problems could be brought of the underscore. However can I confirm the actual OpenID you are using again because I have never seen an OpenID looks like lo...@iseries-guru.com. AFAIK the OpenID should be a requestable *URL*. Otherwise did I misunderstand anything? Thanks! Best wishes, Yifan Terrence Enger ten...@iseries-guru.com 11/15/12 7:15 AM All, I am sorry for the long delay. I lost my internet connection. It is back now, and I have tons of catching up to do. Sigh. Yifan, I have been in touch with my OpenID provider, and they have fixed one mistake that I made in setting it up, writing ... On Fri, 2012-10-26 at 12:08 -0400, Les via RT wrote: Hi Terrence, Sorry for the delay in getting back to you. Can you try it now? Underscores in CNAMEs for your account needed to be enabled via the PREFERENCES link on the left hand side. This was off by default. This has been enabled for you, and we changed the TTL to force a reload of the zone. It works now: However, when I try to sign on, my message is ... OpenID failed OpenID discovery error: Error fetching XRDS document: (28, 'connect() timed out!') Could the underscore be causing a problem at your end, I wonder? Suggestions welcome. Thanks, Terry. On Thu, 2012-10-11 at 07:20 -0600, Yi Fan Jiang wrote: Hi Terry, Thanks for trying out! Yes you are right, it is probably caused by the id provided. AFAIK, the OpenID does not typically use email address as and identifier, though it has not define a restricted way to how an id should look like :) Are you sure your mail provider is an openid provider as well? In that case you may checkout help from the service provider. (I didn't search out relevant information yet..) In addition, the OpenID is distributed everywhere and you can get more description here: http://openid.net/get-an-openid/ It actually spent me some time to understand how they exactly work. But I think to use it, just keep in mind your email address is usually NOT your OpenID, instead the provider often used a uniform way( a url either with or without username) to define an OpenID like what you quoted :) Best wishes, Yifan Terrence Enger ten...@iseries-guru.com 10/11/12 8:13 PM On Thu, 2012-10-11 at 03:43 -0600, Yi Fan Jiang wrote: Hey people, I have brought OpenID to Moztrap this week, the following is the test page for login: http://vm12.documentfoundation.org/openid/login/ Login example: Google user: https://www.google.com/accounts/o8/id Yahoo user: https://me.yahoo.com Wordpress user: $your_username.wordpress.com My attempt to login as lo...@iseries-guru.com failed with message OpenID discovery error: HTTP Response status from identity URL host is not 200. Got status 401 Does this mean I have mistyped my id? I have never used it before; the forum login page only offers icons for a finite set of id providers. Terry. ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/ ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
[Libreoffice-qa] Moztrap OpenID support - go for testing!
Hey people, I have brought OpenID to Moztrap this week, the following is the test page for login: http://vm12.documentfoundation.org/openid/login/ Login example: Google user: https://www.google.com/accounts/o8/id Yahoo user: https://me.yahoo.com Wordpress user: $your_username.wordpress.com More about openid can be found here: http://openid.net/get-an-openid/ As a rookie OpenID user, I tested it by myself for 3-4 hours (wasted much time by the depressing net speed). I will update the main login page to add openid support next weekend if no critical issue found. Functions currently supported (testing required) * Based on EMAIL address, native login/Mozilla Persona/OpenID are all mapped to the same user in Moztrap now, so they should be seamlessly worked together. Those details as follows. - If you have a native registered moztrap user or ever used Mozilla Persona to login, and your openid provides an exact same EMAIL of such an account, the original user and openid user will be treated exactly identical. Actually you should feel nothing changed except inputting password is no longer needed :) * If you never register or login with Persona, you may simply directly use OpenID to login. - The new user should be assigned to a tester by default, so you should be able to run tests without any specail permission. As I known, you have the chance to keep everything private when providing OpenID, but at least a readable user name is preferred to provide in case people want to find you. Providing an email is highly appreciated as well. In the case when you don't provide a name, an ugly user name like openiduser1 openiduser2 will be spontaneously assigned for your account :) * You should not meet any CSRF failure issues (I was concerning the openid module will happened to such an issue again). Best wishes, Yifan -- Yifan Jiang Libreoffice / SuSE Contact: yifan - irc.freenode.net/libreoffice = http://www.libreoffice.org/ http://www.documentfoundation.org/ ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Moztrap OpenID support - go for testing!
Hi Rimas, Ouch...great catch!! I'll definitely look into it. Best wishes, Yifan Rimas Kudelis r...@akl.lt 10/11/12 6:08 PM Hi Yifan! 2012.10.11 12:43, Yi Fan Jiang rašė: I have brought OpenID to Moztrap this week, the following is the test page for login: http://vm12.documentfoundation.org/openid/login/ thats awesome! I will update the main login page to add openid support next weekend if no critical issue found. Functions currently supported (testing required) * Based on EMAIL address, native login/Mozilla Persona/OpenID are all mapped to the same user in Moztrap now, so they should be seamlessly worked together. Those details as follows. - If you have a native registered moztrap user or ever used Mozilla Persona to login, and your openid provides an exact same EMAIL of such an account, the original user and openid user will be treated exactly identical. Actually you should feel nothing changed except inputting password is no longer needed :) Great! Except here's a critical issue for you: I have just managed to log on to MozTrap as you!!! Here's the proof: http://i.imgur.com/eF0Cl.png . In case you're wondering how I did this: I logged on to my weblog, set my email in my profile to yfji...@suse.com, and used its OpenID provider to log in to the test website. Since I don't need to proove to my weblog or the demo site that the email is indeed mine, I basically have full control over MozTrap now. So, not a good thing. This needs some rethinking. Most obvious option would be to use the OpenID URL (or whatever it is that OpenID provides as the identifier) as id when logging in using OpenID. This would also have a nice side effect that the user could change their primary email, and still be able to log in with the same user id and permissions. Regards! Rimas ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Moztrap OpenID support - go for testing!
Hi, I just seal the hole by disabling the duplicated email :) Yes...the email account backward-compatibility should be rethought. @Rimas, would you help to try out that any methods can do the bad thing again? I need to make sure the current secure level takes effect. Best wishes, Yifan Yi Fan Jiang 10/11/12 6:18 PM Hi Rimas, Ouch...great catch!! I'll definitely look into it. Best wishes, Yifan Rimas Kudelis r...@akl.lt 10/11/12 6:08 PM Hi Yifan! 2012.10.11 12:43, Yi Fan Jiang rašė: I have brought OpenID to Moztrap this week, the following is the test page for login: http://vm12.documentfoundation.org/openid/login/ thats awesome! I will update the main login page to add openid support next weekend if no critical issue found. Functions currently supported (testing required) * Based on EMAIL address, native login/Mozilla Persona/OpenID are all mapped to the same user in Moztrap now, so they should be seamlessly worked together. Those details as follows. - If you have a native registered moztrap user or ever used Mozilla Persona to login, and your openid provides an exact same EMAIL of such an account, the original user and openid user will be treated exactly identical. Actually you should feel nothing changed except inputting password is no longer needed :) Great! Except here's a critical issue for you: I have just managed to log on to MozTrap as you!!! Here's the proof: http://i.imgur.com/eF0Cl.png . In case you're wondering how I did this: I logged on to my weblog, set my email in my profile to yfji...@suse.com, and used its OpenID provider to log in to the test website. Since I don't need to proove to my weblog or the demo site that the email is indeed mine, I basically have full control over MozTrap now. So, not a good thing. This needs some rethinking. Most obvious option would be to use the OpenID URL (or whatever it is that OpenID provides as the identifier) as id when logging in using OpenID. This would also have a nice side effect that the user could change their primary email, and still be able to log in with the same user id and permissions. Regards! Rimas ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Moztrap OpenID support - go for testing!
Hi Terry, Thanks for trying out! Yes you are right, it is probably caused by the id provided. AFAIK, the OpenID does not typically use email address as and identifier, though it has not define a restricted way to how an id should look like :) Are you sure your mail provider is an openid provider as well? In that case you may checkout help from the service provider. (I didn't search out relevant information yet..) In addition, the OpenID is distributed everywhere and you can get more description here: http://openid.net/get-an-openid/ It actually spent me some time to understand how they exactly work. But I think to use it, just keep in mind your email address is usually NOT your OpenID, instead the provider often used a uniform way( a url either with or without username) to define an OpenID like what you quoted :) Best wishes, Yifan Terrence Enger ten...@iseries-guru.com 10/11/12 8:13 PM On Thu, 2012-10-11 at 03:43 -0600, Yi Fan Jiang wrote: Hey people, I have brought OpenID to Moztrap this week, the following is the test page for login: http://vm12.documentfoundation.org/openid/login/ Login example: Google user: https://www.google.com/accounts/o8/id Yahoo user: https://me.yahoo.com Wordpress user: $your_username.wordpress.com My attempt to login as lo...@iseries-guru.com failed with message OpenID discovery error: HTTP Response status from identity URL host is not 200. Got status 401 Does this mean I have mistyped my id? I have never used it before; the forum login page only offers icons for a finite set of id providers. Terry. ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Moztrap OpenID support - go for testing!
Hi Pedro, Thanks for trying :) The native registration user compatibilty was available just for a short while until Rimas reported the severe security issue as being discussed. So the exceptional stack is just as expected because of patch the hole. We'll need to fully fix this any way. BTW. Mozilla Persona should not be affected anywhere. Best wishes, Yifan Pedro pedl...@gmail.com 10/11/12 10:30 PM Yi Fan Jiang wrote I have brought OpenID to Moztrap this week, the following is the test page for login: http://vm12.documentfoundation.org/openid/login/ Login example: Google user: https://www.google.com/accounts/o8/id Yahoo user: https://me.yahoo.com Wordpress user: $your_username.wordpress.com I tried with the same Google account I use for Mozilla Persona. I got IntegrityError at /openid/complete/ (1062, Duplicate entry 'pedlino.browse...@gmail.com' for key 'email') (there is a whole page of code and messages I can send you, if you wish...) Regards, Pedro -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Libreoffice-qa-Moztrap-OpenID-support-go-for-testing-tp4012643p4012715.html Sent from the QA mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/ ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Moztrap OpenID support - go for testing!
Hi, Sigh, this doesn't yet make things clear, let me clarify it. Actually the native registraion user and Persona are exactly the same thing inside Moztrap. So when a Moztrap user either already has natviely registrated or has Mozilla Persona logged in. The OpenID using the same email will not be able to login at the moment because of the temporary security patch :( Moreover the native user registration/login and Mozilla Persona login should not be affected. Best wishes Yifan Yi Fan Jiang 10/11/12 10:50 PM Hi Pedro, Thanks for trying :) The native registration user compatibilty was available just for a short while until Rimas reported the severe security issue as being discussed. So the exceptional stack is just as expected because of patch the hole. We'll need to fully fix this any way. BTW. Mozilla Persona should not be affected anywhere. Best wishes, Yifan Pedro pedl...@gmail.com 10/11/12 10:30 PM Yi Fan Jiang wrote I have brought OpenID to Moztrap this week, the following is the test page for login: http://vm12.documentfoundation.org/openid/login/ Login example: Google user: https://www.google.com/accounts/o8/id Yahoo user: https://me.yahoo.com Wordpress user: $your_username.wordpress.com I tried with the same Google account I use for Mozilla Persona. I got IntegrityError at /openid/complete/ (1062, Duplicate entry 'pedlino.browse...@gmail.com' for key 'email') (there is a whole page of code and messages I can send you, if you wish...) Regards, Pedro -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Libreoffice-qa-Moztrap-OpenID-support-go-for-testing-tp4012643p4012715.html Sent from the QA mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/ ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of the LibreOffice QA call 2012-09-26 1300UTC
Hi Bjoern, all, Thanks for coordinating everything, most of time I usually couldn't make a Internet call at evening either because of my crazy ISP or because lack of time :( Here is some update: structured manual testing (Yifan/Petr): - login issue progress? CSRF issue resolved, it should be no annoying login error from now on. - other news? 1. Mozilla Persona login is supported now together with native login. https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Moztrap/Moztrap_User_Guide#Registration_and_Login 2. Currenlty I am working on merging openid login :) It's not natively supported by Moztrap, so I need to do more tuning on backend. The progress is I can make the authentication working now, as well as linking openid information with Moztrap database. So mostly the problems is related the compatibility of User objects in third-party openid module and Moztrap user. - whats the timeline? can we have this productive for the next major - release? I think the function is ready to use, just we need translator/QAs to migrate the translation version of current test cases. I heard French team might have it a try for 3.6.3 testing...this needs confirmation with Sophie any way :) Best wishes, Yifan Bjoern Michaelsen bjoern.michael...@canonical.com 09/27/12 6:13 AM Hi, here are the minutes of the QA call. additions and corrections welcome. Best, Bjoern pending action items: - merge 3.5 and 3.6 in one big bibisect repo (Bjoern) - recheck and tweak bibisect details (Bjoern) - Ping cloph if we can make that switchable to say Bug instead of EasyHack when explcitly requested (Bjoern) - new Bug Hunting Sessions (Cor) structured manual testing (Yifan/Petr): - no news bug wrangling: - postmortem for previous hardhacks - postponed - new hardhacks selection https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=47283 https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=46100 https://bugs.freedesktop.org/attachment.cgi?id=37580 - better collect hardhack candidates on a wikipage - best with a proposed and accepted section, to prevent pet bug flooding AI: - setup hard hack wiki page (Joel) - triaging project (Joel) - 5 new contributors - triaging party next week - bugzilla contract updates - postponed - bug prioritization, can we start for real (continue)? http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Libreoffice-qa-Bugs-prioritization-missing-pieces-td4002450.html - yes, for new bugs - not worth it for explicitly wading trough old bugs/backlog community building/communication (Joel/Florian?) - QA Wochenende in Essen next weekend - who will join? - Florian R., Thorsten, Florian Effenberger among others - Joel, Bjoern will try to attend remotely - better mission statement for QA: proposals? - postponed next call: Friday, October 5th 2012 1300UTC (moved by http://doodle.com/ng83xh2bc4kz2ns8 to the earlier time) ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/ ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Moztrap login CSRF issue fix - testing needed.
Hi Pedro, On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 04:25:22AM -0700, Pedro wrote: Works correctly with the Mozilla Persona login. Thanks for trying out. I thought the goal of this site was for reporting the results of a Regression Test. Yes, it is exactly for regression test :) Instead the login allowed me to enter the backstage, i.e. the construction and translation of the actual tests. Modifying test cases should be done by the test creators or test managers, who needs special permissions, see: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Testing/Test_Cases_Contribution https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Moztrap/Moztrap_Admin_Guide By default, a registered user without speical permission is a tester who can view and run tests, but not modifying them. If I brought any misunderstanding anywhere, please let me know and I'll need to fix that :) -- Yifan Jiang Libreoffice / SuSE Contact: yifan - irc.freenode.net/libreoffice = http://www.libreoffice.org/ http://www.documentfoundation.org/ ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
[Libreoffice-qa] Moztrp enables Mozzila persona login.
Dear fellows, I spent some time to investigate Mozilla Persona today. (related topic - https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=47658) The original Moztrap supports either native login or the Persona login, but only one method a time. With happiness I found possible to make them co-existent by some safe hacking. The login now looks like: http://vm12.documentfoundation.org/users/login/ For new users: You may either: - click the 'register' link to make an old style registration - or simply use Mozilla Persona to login without the above registration For registered users: You may either: - keep the old way to login with password - or login via Mozilla Persona providing the same email as in the old profile, so that your original permission of Moztrap still will be there. Otherwise, with other email addresses, you will be treated as a new user. It should be working out of box nicely, but would you please help to test and report problems if any. :) Thanks! Best wishes, Yifan ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] FR irc session and Moztrap
Hi Sophie, It is a great news, thanks to let us know :) Updates from mine: 1. I have mentioned an intern in SUSE might be helpful to migrate the cases, but she would be off works for these weeks because of school business...so I'll assume she would not be able to do that :( 2. I updated the writing test case guide wiki yesterday regarding to our structure: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Testing/Test_Case until when we have the Moztrap QA wiki pages all up-to-date (though not perfect and prove read) :) https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Moztrap I am here to give support at any time. Best wishes, Yifan Sophie Gautier gautier.sop...@gmail.com 09/14/12 1:37 AM Hi all, This is just to let you know that the FR group is going to have a QA IRC (FR channel) session on 3.6.2 RC1 tomorrow and on Saturday. I'll give you a summary on how it goes on Sunday. @Yifan, sorry for the delay answering your mails, I'll have time tomorrow to go on with Moztrap. I'll have also time in the next days to dedicate to the test migration, but I'll answer you specifically on this tomorrow. Kind regards Sophie -- Sophie Gautier sophie.gaut...@documentfoundation.org Tel:+33683901545 Membership Certification Committee Member - Co-founder The Document Foundation ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/ ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Test file for Conditional Formatting.
Hi Miguel, Thanks a lot for your nice work. I have got a review and push it to: http://vm12.documentfoundation.org/manage/case/122/ Please take a review and make sure I didn't misunderstand anything. Actually it took me some time to play and understand :) As you may notice the instructions and expected results have been modified in Moztrap. The basic thing I did is to extract those *background* and *reasoning* sentences, which are actually *great* for people who wants to thoroughly understand it, out of the instructions. The reason is we are better off trying to instruct people, even those without conditional formatting knowledge, to run the test case STEP by STEP. So more intuitive and relatively direct test case could be more effective for QA to run. The way I prefer is to instruct people 'click' things, then observe the correct behavior as high level as possible, which in this case changing cell background color is pretty specific. And that's all. Only when a people found something wrong or curious enough, she is free to find the logic behind from your lovely detailed descriptions. :) Please tell me how do you think about them. Thanks for your great work! The case is really wonderful! I have try to register in Moztrap, but by now I have not received the confirmation email. Sigh, it looks the postfix failed to verify a self signed certificate there...I'll take a look and don't bother with the mail, I've activate your account and you are free to edit cases yourself :) And as the Moztrap is in first steps, maybe better not too much hands on it. So please put the test in Moztrap if it is right. As it is in the first step, there may be some improvements needed. But it is nevertheless a nice central place we put our test cases effort together, the data would not lose any way. And again because it is in the first step, wonderful new test cases like you already did makes it grown:) Is there some guide on how to structure the name of the test files? I think could be useful in the future. Currently I wasn't aware any particular reason to restrict the name space of a attached file since every case is bound to a test case in Moztrap, so we never lose the background. Maybe in the future I should make Moztrap to attach a case id to the attachments like Bugzilla did. @Petr, all - do you have any experience thoughts on that? Best wishes, Yifan mariosv mari...@miguelangel.mobi 09/12/12 9:05 AM Hi Yifan, I have revised the test, among other issues I have added an Instructions sheet. Licensed under MPL/LGPLv3 + Please if someone can review the text, thanks in advance. I have try to register in Moztrap, but by now I have not received the confirmation email. And as the Moztrap is in first steps, maybe better not too much hands on it. So please put the test in Moztrap if it is right. Is there some guide on how to structure the name of the test files? I think could be useful in the future. Regards, Miguel Ángel. http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/file/n4006903/LibreO_qaTest_ConditionalFormatting_3-5-5-3_en.ods LibreO_qaTest_ConditionalFormatting_3-5-5-3_en.ods -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Test-file-for-Conditional-Formatting-tp4006658p4006903.html Sent from the QA mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/ ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Test file for Conditional Formatting.
Hi Miguel, It looks great! I think it is valuable to take the test case to our regression test base Moztrap, so we will at least have the conditional format checked in each major release testing. https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Moztrap To help other people how to test the document, do you have some testing steps describing exactly what to do step by step (instructions), and what are the expected result of each step (verify points)? Here is a sample how would a test case in Moztrap looks like: -- Test that conditional format [Optional] put some detailed description here. When in English = * instruction 1 (vp.1) * instruction 2 * instruction 3 (vp.2) Then in English = 1. verify point 1 2. verify point 2 -- Please notice with one test sample, you could write down different test cases for different testing purpose. For example, one test case for basic function of Conditional formatting, another test case specifically designed for backward compatibility testing... To populate the test case, you could simply send a mail here (I would help to add them to Moztrap) or register to Moztrap to do it yourself (with permission assigned). Please do not hesitate to let me know if you have problems to do it :) Best wishes, Yifan mariosv mari...@miguelangel.mobi 09/11/12 6:00 AM Hi, relating with the new design of conditional formatting, in my opinion it is necessary to check the proper functioning of it, especially to avoid compatibility problems with versions of LibreOffice not including the new design (up to 3.5) After a short exchange of views with Marcus, I have made a first test file, made in 3.5.5.3, contains the different types of conditional formatting in classic design, to check if opened successfully in the new versions, and if saved correctly to open with previous versions. Licensed under MPL/LGPLv3 +, as required in the wiki. I have begun a new test for the new design, but I have found several issues what I have reported, which seems to me, make difficult by now obtain a practical test. Regards. Miguel Ángel. http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/file/n4006658/LibreO_qaTest_ConditionalFormatting_3-5-5-3_en.ods LibreO_qaTest_ConditionalFormatting_3-5-5-3_en.ods -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Test-file-for-Conditional-Formatting-tp4006658.html Sent from the QA mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/ ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Regression test (Moztrap) test case localization temporary solution.
Hi Petr, all, On Thu, Sep 06, 2012 at 12:26:48PM +0200, Petr Mladek wrote: Yi Fan Jiang píše v Čt 06. 09. 2012 v 03:47 -0600: Yi Fan Jiang píše v Čt 06. 09. 2012 v 02:50 -0600: 4. In the page, make sure the version of the case is switched to *0* by: - Around the top right corner of the page, hover the mouse on the version selection list box right below the Select environment - Click the version initiated with 0, in this case, it should be 0 creating a table in database and increment records Would be possible to set 0 as the default version for editing? I am afraid that the current default setting is too error prone. It should be possible, I'll make a quick fix this week. Great. I keep my fingers crossed. Done, the page now only show version 0 cases: http://vm12.documentfoundation.org/manage/cases/ The following is some explanations: I did some investigation today and found each case/version pair stores as a single data record in database, so navigating between versions depend on the URL containing a specific case/version id. For example, the following refers to the same case with different version: http://vm12.documentfoundation.org/manage/caseversion/298/ http://vm12.documentfoundation.org/manage/caseversion/330/ By default the case management page filtering out only the *latest* version of a case and gives a specific editing url for each. I have thought to make a *seemless* transition to show the *latest* version but given a *0* version edit link, but felt it might bring some confusing. So I changed the filter to always show Version 0 instead of the *latest* version as a solution. Meanwhile switching among versions is still available by 2 ways: 1. click the Advance Filtering button and click Libreoffice x.x in product version criteria field. 2. click the pencil icon to edit a single case and switch the version inside. It is noticeable for those cases particularly created for a version X.Y while not existed in Version 0, only the way 1 is available. But I doubt it will be a usual case :) How do you think about that? Is this solution accepatble? Best wishes, Yifan -- Yifan Jiang Libreoffice / SuSE Contact: yifan - irc.freenode.net/libreoffice = http://www.libreoffice.org/ http://www.documentfoundation.org/ ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Regression test (Moztrap) test case localization temporary solution.
Hi Petr, On Fri, Sep 07, 2012 at 12:16:30PM +0200, Petr Mladek wrote: BTW: Is it possible to easily copy test case from one version to the other using the UI? Or is there some alternative of git cherry-pick where you could apply changes to other branches? Yes, the in-test-case version selection will list all existed versions, if the current case does not belong to a version, click the version number will create a new case version instance AND switching to it :) Anyway, I think that it looks reasonable now. Though, we need to hear feedback from the QA community. Non-developers might have different point of view. They are not that familiar git branches, ... Great to hear :) Thanks for the feedback! Best Regards, Petr -- Yifan Jiang Libreoffice / SuSE Contact: yifan - irc.freenode.net/libreoffice = http://www.libreoffice.org/ http://www.documentfoundation.org/ ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Regression test (Moztrap) test case localization temporary solution.
Hi Sophie, On Tue, Sep 04, 2012 at 09:01:07AM +0200, Sophie Gautier wrote: Hi Yifan, On 04/09/2012 04:35, Yifan Jiang wrote: Hi Sophie, Petr, all, Thanks for the discussion and sorry for the late response that I was busy of other works these days :( no problem :) Visually the second one is also my most favorite, so let's start here. In this week, I will arrange time to update the test cases and make their format consistent with the prototype 2. http://vm12.documentfoundation.org/manage/case/99/ I have done this by running a simple script and the experimental, you can see significant changes in test cases content such as: http://vm12.documentfoundation.org/manage/case/63/ Except for the existing English test cases, other languages are outlined. It might be helpful for the translator people to put their works :) @Sophie, As for the 3.6.3 testing, do you have an estimation when would it be happening? Currently there are only English cases in the database migrated from Litmus. We will still need some time to migrate other language versions before arranging tests. Looking back to Litmus, there are 4 languages version of test cases: en/de/fr/pt-Br, if necessary we could also create Ja section awaiting for input. It will be on week 41, but it's more because I need deadlines than a really fixed date ;) How do you migrate the tests, would I be able to give an hand or is by using some scripts or some magic ? As for the languages, I'll ask on the list for motivated teams and will tell you. The content migration from Litmus would need manual copy and paste :) Do you have some resources to do that? Next week, I may try to ask an intern in SUSE trying if she could offer help. -- Yifan Jiang Libreoffice / SuSE Contact: yifan - irc.freenode.net/libreoffice = http://www.libreoffice.org/ http://www.documentfoundation.org/ ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Regression test (Moztrap) test case localization temporary solution.
Hi Sophie and all, Sorry I did not mention that to translate a case, we need to update the version *0* of each test case so that we could reuse the translated case in future test case versions which usually will be copied from the version *0*. I will update the wiki page to notify that later. Before the wiki page updated, here is an example how to do it: 1. Get the test manager authentication from community 2. Find a test case via Manage-Cases, for example: http://vm12.documentfoundation.org/manage/case/63/ 3. Click the pencil icon which located as the first icon in the ''Name[Tags]'' column. 4. In the page, make sure the version of the case is switched to *0* by: - Around the top right corner of the page, hover the mouse on the version selection list box right below the Select environment - Click the version initiated with 0, in this case, it should be 0 creating a table in database and increment records 5. Add the translated case in the appropriate instruction and expected rows, following the format already given like: instruction In Some Language = * instruction 1 * instruction 2 * instruction 3 expected In Some Language = 1. expected ... 2. expected ... 3. expected ... 6. Click save test case button to save the translation work. Please noted the saved content will not apply to existed other versions until a new version which copies the test cases from version 0 is created. Best wishes, Yifan On Thu, Sep 06, 2012 at 02:12:53AM -0600, Yi Fan Jiang wrote: Hi Sophie, On Tue, Sep 04, 2012 at 09:01:07AM +0200, Sophie Gautier wrote: Hi Yifan, On 04/09/2012 04:35, Yifan Jiang wrote: Hi Sophie, Petr, all, Thanks for the discussion and sorry for the late response that I was busy of other works these days :( no problem :) Visually the second one is also my most favorite, so let's start here. In this week, I will arrange time to update the test cases and make their format consistent with the prototype 2. http://vm12.documentfoundation.org/manage/case/99/ I have done this by running a simple script and the experimental, you can see significant changes in test cases content such as: http://vm12.documentfoundation.org/manage/case/63/ Except for the existing English test cases, other languages are outlined. It might be helpful for the translator people to put their works :) @Sophie, As for the 3.6.3 testing, do you have an estimation when would it be happening? Currently there are only English cases in the database migrated from Litmus. We will still need some time to migrate other language versions before arranging tests. Looking back to Litmus, there are 4 languages version of test cases: en/de/fr/pt-Br, if necessary we could also create Ja section awaiting for input. It will be on week 41, but it's more because I need deadlines than a really fixed date ;) How do you migrate the tests, would I be able to give an hand or is by using some scripts or some magic ? As for the languages, I'll ask on the list for motivated teams and will tell you. The content migration from Litmus would need manual copy and paste :) Do you have some resources to do that? Next week, I may try to ask an intern in SUSE trying if she could offer help. ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/ -- Yifan Jiang Libreoffice / SuSE Contact: yifan - irc.freenode.net/libreoffice = http://www.libreoffice.org/ http://www.documentfoundation.org/ ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Regression test (Moztrap) test case localization temporary solution.
Hi Petr, Hi Yi Fan, first, thanks a lot for pushing this forward. Yi Fan Jiang píše v Čt 06. 09. 2012 v 02:50 -0600: Hi Sophie and all, Sorry I did not mention that to translate a case, we need to update the version *0* of each test case so that we could reuse the translated case in future test case versions which usually will be copied from the version *0*. I will update the wiki page to notify that later. Before the wiki page updated, here is an example how to do it: 1. Get the test manager authentication from community I am a bit confused by this item. Do you mean that people need to send a mail to you to get the Test Manager permissions? Yes, I meant the Test Manager role mentioned in: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Testing/Test_Cases_Contribution Sorry to bring the misunderstanding :) 4. In the page, make sure the version of the case is switched to *0* by: - Around the top right corner of the page, hover the mouse on the version selection list box right below the Select environment - Click the version initiated with 0, in this case, it should be 0 creating a table in database and increment records Would be possible to set 0 as the default version for editing? I am afraid that the current default setting is too error prone. It should be possible, I'll make a quick fix this week. 6. Click save test case button to save the translation work. Please noted the saved content will not apply to existed other versions until a new version which copies the test cases from version 0 is created. Would be possible to synchronize the 3.6 test cases with the 0 version before we start a real testing with 3.6.3? It will not be that easy to make a generic code change, since this will probably change internal gears of Moztrap. So one thing we could do is to: 1. update the version 0 test cases 2. remove the existed version 3.6 and recreate the version 3.6 so that it could copy updated test cases from version 0 It could be done just by a few more clicks, very simple :) Best wishes, Yifan ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Moztrap, some questions
Hi Sophie, I agree with your point that the localization is important, while the function and working process a tool is able to provide is also critical to meet our goal, isn't it? :) Moztrap takes more advantage in the latter and it has an activated development team. That's why I still believe it is worthy a bit of thinking how to workaround the l10n solution in Moztrap. If you are doing some research for some other tools or methods, I'll certainly be here to support when a potential better tool or method appears in front of us :) Let me go back a bit to Moztrap. As I ever mentioned two types of localization need to be concern: 1. UI localization of Moztrap buttons, navigators etc. 2. Test case l10n that allows people to translate existing test cases, according to with testers will be able to understand them. The 1st point tightly depends on upstream framework update, I might be able to help out to implement it in future if we reach common sense with upstream. But it seems less important than the second one, I remember we used Litmus either without this before? I guess the 2nd point is more emergent in our situation since the content of test cases should be standing understandable and suitable for language specific function coverage. Then people can immediately start to test without knowing much English. Noticed from the last mail, 2 workarounds come to my mind: 1. we do similar things what we did in Litmus that put all language versions test case into a single one by mixed manner. 2. translate the test case in wiki and give the link back to Moztrap Now I am expanding more about the first workaround. Through the split Step concept in Moztrap together with a nice feature I just found that test case steps/expected pair is Markdown syntax supported (http://daringfireball.net/projects/markdown/syntax#list), a new idea comes to my mind that it is possible we use the Steps to distinguish various language version of a test case. Here is what it possibly looks like the demo: http://vm12.documentfoundation.org/runtests/run/21/env/631/ Concretely, for one particular language, we may put a real life test case steps and expected results into one single row of Moztrap step/expected box. Each Moztrap step would represent a full description of the detailed test content in one language. For creating a readable format of each steps, we can use pretty simple Markdown language. Basically the content in the demo was populated in the text (with a bit markdown rules) as: --- Test that creating a new database - case 1 When in English === * launch Libreoffice Base (vp1) * enter a name for the database in the dialog box and click OK (vp4) Then in English === 1. the database application appears, the database wizard opens 2. the dialog for save and proceed appears When in French == * lancement LibreOffice Base (vp1) * cochez la case [Créer une base de données], puis cliquez sur le bouton Suivant. (vp2) Then in French == 1. l'application de base de données apparaît, l'assistant base de données s'ouvre 2. la boîte de dialogue pour sauvegarder et passer apparaît Test that creating a new database - case 2 When in English === .. Then in English === .. When in French == .. Then in French == .. --- In addition, for more concept of Moztrap, the official manual is helpful: http://moztrap.readthedocs.org/en/1.0.X/userguide/index.html Also I am on my way updating Moztrap wiki pages this week: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Moztrap https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Moztrap/Moztrap_User_Guide Would you let me On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 02:55:31PM +0200, Sophie Gautier wrote: Hi Yifan, On 13/08/2012 12:08, Yifan Jiang wrote: Hi Sophie, On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 11:14:34AM +0200, Sophie Gautier wrote: Hi all, Yifan, So after a long time (sorry for this long absence), I would like to come back to Moztrap and try to help to test it. Welcome back :) Please let me know if you got problem of registration. My first question, the most important for us, is there now a possibility of localization for : - the tests - the environment From what I see on the todo list Yifan has written long ago the point : 5. Look into i18n and l10n of Moztrap, we need translation system for both test cases and Moztrap UI. Does it mean that it's possible, or does it mean it's not yet possible or that we need to find/define a translation process? I ever had a talk with the Moztrap developers and it seems neither of the localization plans has been on the rador yet :( It needs some deep hacking of the code if we want to
[Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] Moztrap evaluation online - code and bugs
Dear fellows, This mail is part of the main thread of Moztrap evaluation online. Bug, Code = If you want to file a bug or an enhancement, please report it to freedesktop bugzilla with Product Libreoffice, Component WWW. More details of howto report a bug is described here: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/BugReport#Reporting_a_bug_in_few_Steps For developers, we deployed 1.0.x Moztrap on our server, the development and deploy documentation can be found in: http://readthedocs.org/docs/moztrap/en/1.0.X/index.html It is valuable to tell that our deployment of Moztrap has merged several hacks, which make it a bit diverse from the upstream one. The current major change is that we allow testers to share testing results. They work as one and do not need to repeat the same case in the same test environment. If you want to dig more into this, please refer to the TODO mail or let me know. Patches, which are warmly welcome, can be sent directly to me and the mailing list :) Best wishes, Yifan ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
[Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] Moztrap evaluation online - todo, known issues and contacts
Dear fellows, This mail is part of the main thread of Moztrap evaluation online. Known issues and TODO items === 1. We need to update wiki pages 2. Decide the login method, Registrationlogin/Mozilla id/Openid? 3. Occasionally you may meet cross site verification failure when logging in: Forbidden (403) CSRF verification failed. Request aborted. This is not expected but I didn't find out why it happens, possibly it is an improper tuning of Moztrap or a bug. On my side, simply refreshing times will get the page loaded successfully. We will need to resolve this any way. 4. The running version is based on upstream 1.0.x branch, with slight hacks: The original system does not design for users sharing testing results among each other, I revised a bit of the related code to allow testers working as ONE that they will see/retest others' testing status if they have the same test case and same environment settings to run. So ideally our QA people will not run the same case in the same environment again and again. Instead blindly test those cases already executed, they can explicitly revise others' testing result when necessary. However currently the hacking has its limitation. Different testers could modify results for a given test case and test environment, only the last result is stored but the name of the first tester is associated with it. We will need to burnish the hack. 5. Look into i18n and l10n of Moztrap, we need translation system for both test cases and Moztrap UI. 6. Handling locale independent and OS independent test cases. It makes perfect sense to run those cases in any and an only locale or OS. In the situation, testers should have a equal information of the results of those test cases when they are testing in certain different environment set. Mostly this is for saving our resources of testing. Contact = Moztrap development interests could be sent to: libreoff...@freedesktop.org Moztrap enhancement and ideas could be sent to: libreoffice...@freedesktop.org In any case you can contact me via email: yfji...@suse.com Best wishes, Yifan ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
[Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] Moztrap evaluation online - roles and permissions
Dear fellows, This mail is part of the main thread of Moztrap evaluation online. By default, Moztrap allows Guest touring of the system. Without any registration, anyone can review testing result and how they organized. For practical evaluation of the system, you should have either of the following roles. Tester role === Natively Moztrap supports either Mozilla Persona ID or traditional registered way of log in. Since using and hacking to support those method or OpenID solution is still pending, we only enabled the traditional way at the moment. After a successful registration, you will be automatically assigned as a tester, namely you could run test cases when the id is born :) Test creator role = If you have test cases on hand and want to contribute the test case base, please do not hesitate to let me know :) In addition, as the format of test case, I feel it would be convenient to follow the Moztrap Bulk test case entry rule, that a text based test case can be stored and exchanged conveniently. More details of how it works can be found: http://readthedocs.org/docs/moztrap/en/1.0.X/userguide/ui/import.html#bulk-test-case-entry-formats Admin role == Admins could organize test runs, test cases organizations etc. Litmus admins, please let me know when registered, I'll assign corresponding admin permission for you. If some one out of Litmus admin team who wants to try the test case management tasks, please show off your previously proven contribution to Libreoffice project. Admins would evaluate and decide the granting of permission. Best wishes, Yifan ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Creating test cases for Litmus server
On Tue, Nov 01, 2011 at 03:30:31PM +0100, Petr Mladek wrote: drew píše v Út 01. 11. 2011 v 10:02 -0400: Hi, I would like to start using the Litmus test case server, specifically for entering some Base related manual tests. I've created my account at https://tcm.documentfoundation.org/ but can not seem to find a way to enter a test scenario. Any help would be much appreciated. I see the following in my account profile: --- cut --- Web Services Auth Token: None ⇐ A web services authentication token allows this user to submit automated testing results. --- cut --- Sophie, Yi Fan, others, how could we get privileges to write test cases? Hi drew, I am sorry for the late reply that I was in intensive trips in the past days. Thanks drew to contribute on that, the priviledge has been added now, would you please try it? BTW, since we udpated the test cases organization recently, so some of the description in wiki page could be obsolete, please do not hesitate to ask me at any time if any questions :) To add new cases, please 1. put language neatual cases in an proper group/subgroup of the branch * Master Function Regression Test 2. put language dependent cases in a proper group/subgroup of the branch * Master L10N Regression Test 3. Also please make the summary of new cases consistent with the existing ones (initial with symbol like # w001 - , which means the first case of Writer). Thank you! Do we really want to limit it to special accounts? We are lack of test cases, so we should make it easy. @ Petr IMHO we may make the access more open at least with the problems resolved: 1. At the moment, the only user group can edit testcases is the Litmus Super Admin, which has an access to manage everything including other people's account. AFAIK, we had a particular Test run Admin group designed for test case editing but it didn't work properly currently :( 2. I am not quite sure if we have a backup/version control in Litmus, so it would be better to update/remove cases with cautious. @Rimas Do you have some comments on the above? @Sophie and Litmus admins, I have added drew to super admin priviledge since we have got problems in Test Run Admin user group. Please let me know if there are any concerns with that :) Best wishes, Yifan ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
