Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Ability to have Snap/Flatpak/etc. for bug hunting season

2020-05-09 Thread antonio . faccioli

Il 09.05.2020 13:53 Ilmari Lauhakangas ha scritto:

William Gathoye (LibreOffice) kirjoitti 9.5.2020 klo 14.11:

Hello everyone,

While officially not in charge of LibreOfficeFR any more on Twitter,
some people are requesting why we don't have Flatpak/Snap packages for
prereleases versions as well?

Some contributors aren't eager to test because installing the current
.deb/.rpm could interfere with their current profile. Having a simple
Flatpak/Snap/AppImage packages could ease the ongoing bug hinting 
process.


I know some images are not managed by TDF directly, but providing one
for those we officially support could help IMHO.


Flatpaks are the responsibility of Red Hat and Snaps of Canonical. I
would very much like things to stay that way in order to not burden
our release managers.

The appimage for 7.0 is rather fresh: 
https://libreoffice.soluzioniopen.com/


Antonio can be helped by solving open issues:
https://github.com/antoniofaccioli/libreoffice-appimage/issues

Ilmari


The appimage version for 7.0 (alpha1) is available here 
https://libreoffice.soluzioniopen.com/index.php/7-0-pre-releases/


The appimage packages can be used for the bug hunting session as 
indicated on the wiki

https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/BugHuntingSession/7.0.0Apha

Antonio



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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2017-06-15 Thread Antonio Faccioli - LibreItalia

Hy all,

Il 2017-06-15 15:09 Michael Meeks ha scritto:

Hi guys,

On 15/06/17 11:04, Heiko Tietze wrote:

Would say the arguments are on the table. Cloph, what is the drawback
of adding appimage to our repo ?


	Can we shelve this, and discuss it in-person at the next ESC call; 
I've

added it to the agenda already =) I'm hoping to see Antonio there.



Sorry, I did not manage to arrive in time. The work went longer than 
expected.



Thanks,

Michael.


Regards
Antonio
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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2017-06-12 Thread antonio . faccioli

Hi Michael, Jay, all

Il 09.06.2017 10:59 Michael Meeks ha scritto:

Hi Jay,

On 09/06/17 00:10, Jay Philips wrote:

+ unclear what the future holds here: Snap, FlatPack, AppImage
(Michael)


If its Libreoffice future, i believe AppImage will be it, as it
provides similar functionality as the portable version found on
windows, like

1) not having to install it on your system to run it (aka portable)


The "just run the console and do chmod +x " that
I see on their front-page is (I suspect) rather a bit of a usability
nightmare ;-) at least initially vs. say an app-store. Some 'technical'
people I know are impressed by command-line use ;-)


2) copying it on a usb and run it on any linux distro (atleast the
minimum system that LO supports, something that snap and flatpak cant
do)


Nice.


3) easily running multiple versions (would improve linux QA, as it
would also lower that barrier for users to test old versions)


I guess.



I'm using appimage to create the various versions of LibreOffice to use 
for client ticket testing.



+ how is flat-pack hosted currently ? (Michael) + build & up-load,
and cloph pushes it (Stephan) + whenever there is a 5.3.x it is
build – following Fresh. + no daily build.


If the bash conversion script isnt run locally on the webserver, then
Antonio is willing to create the appimages and upload them.


That seems reasonable. I guess it needs an active maintainer who fixes
problems with it - that is not Cloph =) is that you and/or Antonio ?



I'm available to help.


+ the request is “become a linux distribution” (Michael) +
flat-pack doesn’t include the GNOME run-time (Stephan) + AppImage
sounds like it will include ~everything: Gstreamer + all codecs
etc. - from some random PC (Michael)


No the appimage will only include the same files LO bundles in the
released .deb and .rpm files found in the .tar.gz. It assumes the
users system has the necessary other dependencies on their system.


This removes my major objection at least; if so - good =)


+ AppImage works hard to solve a problem we already solved: of
being an ISV on Linux – it is hard but solveable.


Appimage tries to solve a major problem on linux, easily running an
app on any linux distro, especially new apps on a stable distro.


I guess its useful to some people =) is there a central app-store /
location to find appimages ?


I will try to attend next week but doubt it will work as VOIP
services like hangouts and skype dont function correctly where i live


Is Antonio in a better location for international calls ?



Yes, I'm in Italy.


So to move this forward and test the waters, it would be great to
setup a page on the website for appimage[13] for the 5.4 beta 2 and
link the download links to either an uploaded appimagage on tdf
infra[14] or to the one on Antonio's website.


Sounds reasonable to me to test this out as experimental for the 5.4.x
release and if it works well for 6.0.



I agree, it seems to me the best way.


Any further thoughts Cloph ?

Thanks Jay & Antonio !

Michael.


Regards,
Antonio
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