Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Make use of your karma - feel free to retag/edit posts (Fwd: QA forum feedback)
Christian Lohmaier-3 wrote following feedback was sent regarding the askbot platform. I can only agree - so feel free to make use of your karma to moderate questions (retag, edit, ...) and make use of your votes (so that other people get their karma, and to make it easier to distinguish good/interesting and waste-of-time questions :-) Unfortunately the karma points in askbot are unrealistic (not to say useless). Not even you have enough karma points to do what you are asking others to help with. http://ask.libreoffice.org/faq/ This means that only admins can do that. So it doesn't make sense to ask for help and referring to karma points. BTW I sent another email through the Give Feedback form on Feb 23rd precisely about karma points. I never received a copy of my sent email (I assume you rejected my previous suggestion of enabling the form to send a copy to the author) and I haven't received an answer yet. Regards, Pedro -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Libreoffice-qa-Make-use-of-your-karma-feel-free-to-retag-edit-posts-Fwd-Q-A-forum-feedback-tp3790179p3793043.html Sent from the QA mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Make use of your karma - feel free to retag/edit posts (Fwd: QA forum feedback)
Hi Pedro, *, On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 11:15 AM, Pedro pedl...@gmail.com wrote: Christian Lohmaier-3 wrote [...] and make use of your votes (so that other people get their karma, and to make it easier to distinguish good/interesting and waste-of-time questions :-) Unfortunately the karma points in askbot are unrealistic (not to say useless). No, they are not. It would be pointless if you could gain moderator powers within two days of spamming askbot. Karma is not a one-shot thing. And yes, LibreOffice askbot-instance did not start in bootstrap mode with reduced karma, but started off with using the default/producition limits. (So I understand that people think that the limits are high) Not even you have enough karma points to do what you are asking others to help with. Of course I have - and you have so too. Since the main way to get karma is to use your votes. People don't have karma, because people don't make use of their votes and don't make use of flagging an answer as correct. So it it a learning process into getting to know how the platform works. Changing it the other way round will not be done. Then the karma-stuff would be useless and we would have a lot more administrational effort. Similar with spam - just flag it as inappropriate and it will be hidden from other users after a couple of different people did so. Becoming a moderator starts with understanding how the platform works, and that is mainly by using your votes freely, giving answeres that are upvoted, flagged as correct. People with enough karma are automatically qualified by the process of earning their karmapoints. And if you're a TDF-member and want to have moderator-level karma, feel free to ping the website list (or me personally) then I'll pull some karma out-of-the-sky for your account. http://ask.libreoffice.org/faq/ This means that only admins can do that. So it doesn't make sense to ask for help and referring to karma points. Maybe my post was misleading - The reason why I posted to the list is to make people use their votes, ask for comments, etc. So yes - so far there are no moderators-by-earnt-karma, only moderators-because-admin. But that only was a part of the post. BTW I sent another email through the Give Feedback form on Feb 23rd precisely about karma points. F*k - I wrote a reply, but forgot to include you... Sorry for that, will resend and make sure to double-check next time. (email of person who asked is not included in reply-to, but only in the message text - I'm so used to only reply-to that I missed that you're not included in the list of addressees. I never received a copy of my sent email (I assume you rejected my previous suggestion of enabling the form to send a copy to the author) Yes, I regard it as pointless. If you want a copy for your own records, send mail to the website list directly. After all it will reach the same group of people (+ a couple more) You receiving a copy will not prevent me from making mistakes when answering, so... When not receiving a reply, you need to resend/ping people anyway, no matter whether you did receive a copy or not. and I haven't received an answer yet. Did forward you the reply now. Sorry again. ciao Christian ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Make use of your karma - feel free to retag/edit posts (Fwd: QA forum feedback)
Hi Christian, all You seem to be managing the askbot site too personally. Have it your way. So if I want to have a copy of a suggestion or bug report about askbot, I should email to the website mailing list??? (don't bother to answer, I'm done with this topic) Regards, Pedro -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Libreoffice-qa-Make-use-of-your-karma-feel-free-to-retag-edit-posts-Fwd-Q-A-forum-feedback-tp3790179p3793961.html Sent from the QA mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Make use of your karma - feel free to retag/edit posts (Fwd: QA forum feedback)
2012.03.02 14:09, Christian Lohmaier rašė: On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 11:15 AM, Pedropedl...@gmail.com wrote: I never received a copy of my sent email (I assume you rejected my previous suggestion of enabling the form to send a copy to the author) Yes, I regard it as pointless. If you want a copy for your own records, send mail to the website list directly. After all it will reach the same group of people (+ a couple more) You receiving a copy will not prevent me from making mistakes when answering, so... When not receiving a reply, you need to resend/ping people anyway, no matter whether you did receive a copy or not. It is convenient to have a record of what you have suggested though. Receiving the message also means that the server really works. Plus, not everyone knows that askbot feedback is to be sent to the website list. So, I wouldn't regard it as pointless, and if enabling this feature is as easy as checking a box, I would enable it if I were you. Rimas ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Make use of your karma - feel free to retag/edit posts (Fwd: QA forum feedback)
Hi Pedro, *, On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 5:18 PM, Pedro pedl...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Christian, all You seem to be managing the askbot site too personally. Not sure what you mean with this. If it is implying that I'm the über-admin who decides on everything, then no - I'm not the one. Have it your way. Yes, I believe in the karma system, and thus I don't want to change it. So if I want to have a copy of a suggestion or bug report about askbot, I should email to the website mailing list??? (don't bother to answer, I'm done with this topic) My point is: If the request is valid (i.e. not spam), then you will get a reply no matter what. Where's the point in having a copy of the request you sent? It neither proves that the mail reached any of the admins, nor does it prove anything else. If you need it for your records, then the feedback form might not be the most suitable way to provide the feedback. So if you don't receive any response, a copy of your request means absolutely nothing. All your (and other people's) reuqests have been answered promptly (that you didn't receive a a copy of the answer is personal failure, but has nothing to do with the question whether you need a mail of the original request). Having the original request won't help at all. If you don't get a reply, you need to resend or otherwise notice the admins anyway. As in this example where I forgot to add your address to the list of recepients or with the first request where another admin made a typo in your address) ciao Christian ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
[Libreoffice-qa] Make use of your karma - feel free to retag/edit posts (Fwd: QA forum feedback)
Hi *, following feedback was sent regarding the askbot platform. I can only agree - so feel free to make use of your karma to moderate questions (retag, edit, ...) and make use of your votes (so that other people get their karma, and to make it easier to distinguish good/interesting and waste-of-time questions :-) ciao Christian [name and final greeting removed for privacy reasons] -- Forwarded message -- From: webmas...@documentfoundation.org Date: Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 11:49 AM Subject: QA forum feedback Hello, this is a AskLibo forum feedback message. It would be nice if the existing moderators/admins could re-tag questions that are being asked and use their voting capabilities. Many questions stand un-tagged or wrongly tagged and without any votes (this includes answers), defeating the purpose of the platform in the short term. Thanks in advance for considering this, and letting all admins/moderators know. ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
