Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ... - correction ...
On Tue, 2014-11-04 at 11:38 +, Michael Meeks wrote: > On Thu, 2014-10-30 at 16:39 +, Michael Meeks wrote: > > * Seattle Hackfest (Robinson/Norbert) > ... > > + badly need ways to stop 'building' consuming the hack-fest (Michael) > > + or a way to keep hand-holding after the hack-fest (Bjoern) > ... > > + vast majority of people wanted access to VM > > + monster communication problem with cloph ... > > + Robinson was briefed on how to do that (cloph) > > + Info emailed to hackfest devs (Robinson) > > -> communication droppeded <- > > Incidentally it was just pointed out to me that "monster communication > problem with cloph" could read as some hyper-criticism of him =) that's > by no means the case - as (I hope) the context points out as we started > to dig deeper there were probably several failures of communication / > preparedness on the topic somewhere in the gap between cloph -> Robinson > -> other mentors -> hack-fest attendees. And also, my comment was never meant as a criticism of "someone not doing the job". It was rather a simple piece of feedback that I hoped would be useful for future hackfest planning. So, let's not take this as a "failure" please. We had a successful hackfest, and everybody chipped in what they could. No need to paint this negatively. Kohei ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ... - correction ...
On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 6:29 AM, Kohei Yoshida wrote: > > And also, my comment was never meant as a criticism of "someone not > doing the job". It was rather a simple piece of feedback that I hoped > would be useful for future hackfest planning. > > So, let's not take this as a "failure" please. We had a successful > hackfest, and everybody chipped in what they could. No need to paint > this negatively. > I would like to add, in a more general sens: the point of these ESC call is, in big part, to discuss and review 'pain points', thinks that are causing trouble, hindering work, etc... and to try to find practical and actionable solutions to re-mediate, improve things... it is never to 'assign blame'. So, to all readers of the minutes out there, always assume the former not the later :-) Norbert. ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ... - correction ...
On Thu, 2014-10-30 at 16:39 +, Michael Meeks wrote: > * Seattle Hackfest (Robinson/Norbert) ... > + badly need ways to stop 'building' consuming the hack-fest (Michael) > + or a way to keep hand-holding after the hack-fest (Bjoern) ... > + vast majority of people wanted access to VM > + monster communication problem with cloph ... > + Robinson was briefed on how to do that (cloph) > + Info emailed to hackfest devs (Robinson) > -> communication droppeded <- Incidentally it was just pointed out to me that "monster communication problem with cloph" could read as some hyper-criticism of him =) that's by no means the case - as (I hope) the context points out as we started to dig deeper there were probably several failures of communication / preparedness on the topic somewhere in the gap between cloph -> Robinson -> other mentors -> hack-fest attendees. My minuting, never perfect was much less than ideal here; sorry for that. We love you cloph ! =) ATB, Michael. -- michael.me...@collabora.com <><, Pseudo Engineer, itinerant idiot ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
