[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 91781] Reorganization of the menu bar for Writer

2015-06-11 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=91781

--- Comment #66 from Jean-Baptiste Faure  ---
(In reply to Yousuf (Jay) Philips from comment #64)
> (In reply to Jean-Baptiste Faure from comment #61)
> > Redundancy is not a sin. :-) 
> 
> Definitely not a sin, but i try my best not to duplicate commands in the
> menu. :D

Why ? We have duplication for toolbars, why not in menu? When you open a new
empty document with a new clean user profile, you have both sidebar/properties
and formatting toolbar. There is several other toolbar duplications.

Best regards. JBF

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 91990] Start Center: convert Help and Extension buttons

2015-06-11 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=91990

--- Comment #10 from Jean-Baptiste Faure  ---
(In reply to Yousuf (Jay) Philips from comment #9)
> [...]
> Extension Manager is in the Tools menu of the start center and its weird
> that the extension button would link to the website rather than opening the
> extension manager dialog, but i guess thats just because of the evolution.

It was done deliberately to make [new] users aware of the extensions website.

Best regards. JBF

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 91781] Reorganization of the menu bar for Writer

2015-06-11 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=91781

--- Comment #65 from Commit Notification 
 ---
Yousuf Philips committed a patch related to this issue.
It has been pushed to "master":

http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?id=bb9dad2ef23829b2500c9f99154bca6a8ba7d49a

tdf#91781 Make Styles a new main menu bar entry and small rearrangments

It will be available in 5.1.0.

The patch should be included in the daily builds available at
http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/ in the next 24-48 hours. More
information about daily builds can be found at:
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Testing_Daily_Builds
Affected users are encouraged to test the fix and report feedback.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 91781] Reorganization of the menu bar for Writer

2015-06-11 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=91781

--- Comment #64 from Yousuf (Jay) Philips  ---
(In reply to Jean-Baptiste Faure from comment #61)
> Redundancy is not a sin. :-) 

Definitely not a sin, but i try my best not to duplicate commands in the menu.
:D

(In reply to Philippe Jung from comment #62)
> I definitely agree: every time I used a software where print preview is not
> is File menu, I had to search for it.

So which softwares have you used that didnt have it there and which menu did
they place it in?

(In reply to Marc Pare from comment #63)
> I am also adding my voice to keeping the Print Preview under File. As having
> used OOo and LibreOffice in a school setting, this is where the kids will
> find it first. Their first instinct is to look for "Print" and logically
> speaking "Print Preview" should appear in the same menu column. Students
> will NOT look under "View" as their line of thinking does not work this way.
> 
> I would also say that my 82 year old mother who also uses LibreOffice Calc,
> from time to time, as treasurer of her club, would really be mixed up if the
> Print-Preview were moved anywhere else. 

Its would be quite unfortunate that your students or your mother would be going
to the menus for print and print preview, when both of them are in the toolbar.

Well i guess there are more people in disagree with this, so i've put it back
to where it was. :D

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 91820] Reorganization of the menu bar for Calc

2015-06-11 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=91820

--- Comment #8 from Commit Notification 
 ---
Yousuf Philips committed a patch related to this issue.
It has been pushed to "master":

http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?id=cdd7ef358d8e97ebf13431b78337f61ad5c2c01a

tdf#91820 Minor fixes and fix icon links

It will be available in 5.1.0.

The patch should be included in the daily builds available at
http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/ in the next 24-48 hours. More
information about daily builds can be found at:
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Testing_Daily_Builds
Affected users are encouraged to test the fix and report feedback.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 91990] Start Center: convert Help and Extension buttons

2015-06-11 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=91990

--- Comment #9 from Yousuf (Jay) Philips  ---
(In reply to V Stuart Foote from comment #8)
> Point to all of that, is that where we are now in the GUI design is not
> arbitrary--removing it would be. And the Get Extension function would still
> have to go somewhere. Retaining it on the StartCenter panel was
> evolutionary, adjacent to the Info/Help/About button. But if not there, then
> perhaps up to the Main Menu -> Help

Extension Manager is in the Tools menu of the start center and its weird that
the extension button would link to the website rather than opening the
extension manager dialog, but i guess thats just because of the evolution.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 91781] Reorganization of the menu bar for Writer

2015-06-11 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=91781

--- Comment #63 from Marc Pare  ---
Hi everyone,

I am also adding my voice to keeping the Print Preview under File. As having
used OOo and LibreOffice in a school setting, this is where the kids will find
it first. Their first instinct is to look for "Print" and logically speaking
"Print Preview" should appear in the same menu column. Students will NOT look
under "View" as their line of thinking does not work this way.

I would also say that my 82 year old mother who also uses LibreOffice Calc,
from time to time, as treasurer of her club, would really be mixed up if the
Print-Preview were moved anywhere else. 

Marc Paré

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 91781] Reorganization of the menu bar for Writer

2015-06-11 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=91781

--- Comment #62 from Philippe Jung  ---
(In reply to Jean-Baptiste Faure from comment #61)
> About Print Preview:
> 
> For the Print Preview the current users are used to find it in the File
> menu, 

I definitely agree: every time I used a software where print preview is not is
File menu, I had to search for it.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 92010] Easier autocomplete access to more frequently used functions

2015-06-11 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=92010

--- Comment #1 from Heiko Tietze  ---
Would be quite annoying for users who want to get another function like =sd().
Usually autocomplete starts after the third character, or when the result is
clear.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 91829] DRAW: Layout, Controls and Dimension Lines need improvement

2015-06-11 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=91829

Regina Henschel  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 CC||rb.hensc...@t-online.de

--- Comment #10 from Regina Henschel  ---
The layer "Controls" is named that way, because a "control"-object is put on
that layer as default.
The layer "Dimension Lines" is named that way, because a "dimension
line"-object is put on that layer as default.
The name of the layers correspond exactly to their function.

Layers in Draw are a grouping tool. The stack of the objects is independent of
the layer. For details see my comment and attachment to bug 90244.

In regard to handling of visible/printable/lock I refer to my suggestion in bug
89130, comment 2.

The "modify"-dialog has checkboxes for visible, printable and lock, there is no
need for other checkboxes.

Do you got in touch with people, who use Draw in their profession?

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 90374] SIDEBAR: Having the sidebar with a fixed width across all tabs

2015-06-11 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=90374

V Stuart Foote  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 CC||diaz.bast...@openmailbox.or
   ||g

--- Comment #13 from V Stuart Foote  ---
*** Bug 91915 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 91915] [Sidebar] Set a maximum and minimum width for the sidebar

2015-06-11 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=91915

V Stuart Foote  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|UNCONFIRMED |RESOLVED
 CC||vstuart.fo...@utsa.edu
 Resolution|--- |DUPLICATE

--- Comment #3 from V Stuart Foote  ---
Resolving as duplicate of bug 90374

But this gets completed by an implementation resolving bug 67770 -- Sidebar
customization settings not remembered after reopening, which would finish work
already done:

http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?id=b1314f22eb8de4359b5360194c04996351e9a6c2

*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 90374 ***

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 33223] Sidebar: as container for toolbars, ability to add functions missing from Sidebar

2015-06-11 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=33223

V Stuart Foote  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

   See Also||https://bugs.documentfounda
   ||tion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=91
   ||806

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 91990] Start Center: convert Help and Extension buttons

2015-06-11 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=91990

V Stuart Foote  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 CC||vstuart.fo...@utsa.edu

--- Comment #8 from V Stuart Foote  ---
When the StartCenter was reworked into .UI the Get Templates, Get
Features/Extensions and Help/Info icons dating back to OOo were all
reimplemented as GTK+ buttons with text lables, exactly the same as the
component launchers.

The Help and Extensions GTK+ buttons simply never received an icon while the
Get Templates action was merged into the template manager. And of course
positioning on the SC tabbar evolved with the design. 

But other than lacking the icon and being sized a bit smaller--they are exactly
the same GTK+ .UI layout as all the other "buttons" in the UI--they all render
and function within the GUI the same.

There has been some discussion over the months that the Help/Info button should
open the Wiki Help, while the Menu's Help -> LibreOffice Help would open the
local downloaded instance. But for now they both open the local help, if
installed, and should open the same Wiki Help if not--but that does goes wonky
from build to build.

Point to all of that, is that where we are now in the GUI design is not
arbitrary--removing it would be. And the Get Extension function would still
have to go somewhere. Retaining it on the StartCenter panel was evolutionary,
adjacent to the Info/Help/About button. But if not there, then perhaps up to
the Main Menu -> Help

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 91990] Start Center: convert Help and Extension buttons

2015-06-11 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=91990

--- Comment #7 from Yousuf (Jay) Philips  ---
(In reply to Jean-Baptiste Faure from comment #6)
> They were added to the StartCenter exactly for this reason. Many users are
> not aware that there is a help in LibreOffice and that it is possible to add
> features by installing extensions.

It baffles me that people would claim that they are not aware that there is a
help, when most applications have help. We also have a dedicated Help menu bar
entry and until 4.3, we also had a dedicated button in the toolbar for help,
though more people used the menu bar entry than the toolbar button. Only a
particular level of user will ever install extensions, as the process isnt very
simple.

> Having big buttons under their eyes may help here.

Doubt it will help if they havent seen the permanent Help menu at the top and
also when the Start Center isnt frequently seen, except on Mac.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 91915] [Sidebar] Set a maximum and minimum width for the sidebar

2015-06-11 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=91915

Beluga  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 CC||libreoffice-ux-advise@lists
   ||.freedesktop.org,
   ||todven...@suomi24.fi
  Component|UI  |ux-advise

--- Comment #2 from Beluga  ---
Let's ask the design team.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 91781] Reorganization of the menu bar for Writer

2015-06-11 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=91781

Jean-Baptiste Faure  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 CC||jbfa...@libreoffice.org

--- Comment #61 from Jean-Baptiste Faure  ---
About Print Preview:

The problem is not to put a function in the more appropriate menu but to put it
where the user will find it the most easily.
For the Print Preview the current users are used to find it in the File menu,
thus keep it there. If you really think that new users will search this
function preferentially in the View menu, then add it there too. 
Redundancy is not a sin. :-) 

Best regards. JBF

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 92010] New: Easier autocomplete access to more frequently used functions

2015-06-11 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=92010

Bug ID: 92010
   Summary: Easier autocomplete access to more frequently used
functions
   Product: LibreOffice
   Version: 5.1.0.0.alpha0+ Master
  Hardware: Other
OS: All
Status: UNCONFIRMED
  Severity: enhancement
  Priority: medium
 Component: ux-advise
  Assignee: libreoffice-b...@lists.freedesktop.org
  Reporter: philip...@hotmail.com
CC: libreoffice-ux-advise@lists.freedesktop.org

Not sure if this should be considered an enhancement or a bug, but after 4.2 if
you type '=s' in Calc, it doesnt autoselect '=sum()', which i'm assuming is the
most commonly used command beginning with 's'.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 91990] Start Center: convert Help and Extension buttons

2015-06-11 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=91990

Jean-Baptiste Faure  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 CC||jbfa...@libreoffice.org

--- Comment #6 from Jean-Baptiste Faure  ---
(In reply to Yousuf (Jay) Philips from comment #3)
> Personally i'd
> recommend removing them as they are not highly utilized features.

They were added to the StartCenter exactly for this reason. Many users are not
aware that there is a help in LibreOffice and that it is possible to add
features by installing extensions. Having big buttons under their eyes may help
here.

Best regards. JBF

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 90777] Writer: paragraph ApplyStyle dropdown in the toolbar badly populated

2015-06-11 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=90777

V Stuart Foote  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

Summary|Writer: ApplyStyle dropdown |Writer: paragraph
   |in the toolbar badly|ApplyStyle dropdown in the
   |populated   |toolbar badly populated

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 90777] Writer: ApplyStyle dropdown in the toolbar badly populated

2015-06-11 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=90777

V Stuart Foote  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEW
 Ever confirmed|0   |1

--- Comment #2 from V Stuart Foote  ---
Hmm, I'd agree that population seems random. 

But the starting "Clear formatting" .uno action is obvious, and the ending
"More Styles..." (which performs the same function as F11 -- shifting to, or
opening/closing the Styles and Formatting content panel in the Sidebar).

The default paragraph style selections listed between are determined by the
type of document being opened--but the exact logic is unclear. And of course
that list grows as additional styles are used within the document, or as
defined in a template. 

There is a programatic basis for what shows, and I'd suspect the default
follows the same categorization seen if you select the "Automatic" sort of the
Styles & Formatting panel, as opposed to the default "Hierarchical" listing.

Alphabetical would not necessarily be the best choice, but a better UI allowing
customization of these Paragraph styles should be possible.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 90777] Writer: ApplyStyle dropdown in the toolbar badly populated

2015-06-11 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=90777

V Stuart Foote  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 CC||vstuart.fo...@utsa.edu
Summary|ApplyStyle dropdown in the  |Writer: ApplyStyle dropdown
   |toolbar badly populated |in the toolbar badly
   ||populated

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 90777] ApplyStyle dropdown in the toolbar badly populated

2015-06-11 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=90777

Beluga  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 CC||libreoffice-ux-advise@lists
   ||.freedesktop.org,
   ||todven...@suomi24.fi
  Component|Writer  |ux-advise

--- Comment #1 from Beluga  ---
Clearly a question for the design team.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 91983] Manage changes does not follow changes to Style elements -- paragraph, character, page, etc.

2015-06-11 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=91983

Yousuf (Jay) Philips  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 CC||philip...@hotmail.com

--- Comment #1 from Yousuf (Jay) Philips  ---
I'm assuming this is a limitation of the current track changes implementation
in ODF, which is currently being revamped.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 91923] [SIDEBAR] Put Insert Fields dialog in sidebar

2015-06-11 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=91923

Yousuf (Jay) Philips  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 91923] [SIDEBAR] Put Insert Fields dialog in sidebar

2015-06-11 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=91923

Yousuf (Jay) Philips  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEW
 CC||heiko.tie...@user-prompt.co
   ||m,
   ||libreoffice-ux-advise@lists
   ||.freedesktop.org,
   ||philip...@hotmail.com
  Component|Writer  |ux-advise
 Ever confirmed|0   |1

--- Comment #1 from Yousuf (Jay) Philips  ---
(In reply to Olivier Hallot from comment #0)
> I use fields a lot in my documents (references, variables).
> 
> The Insert Fields dialog use to cover my text and makes multiple field
> insertion cumbersome.

Not sure that the Fields dialog could easily be added as a new sidebar tab as
the dialog has multiple tabs and changing controls between those tabs, but
guess those could be the sections of the tab, though it still wouldnt be easy.
Likely its something that the design team can try out in one of the friday
design sessions.

> If the Insert Fields could be moved inside the sidebar as was the gallery
> and styles & formatting, that will take the dialog out of the text area and
> field insertion more agile.

With gallery and styles & formatting, they were moved into the sidebar without
any changes. :D

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 89457] SIDEBAR: Addition of outline up and down buttons to paragraph section

2015-06-11 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=89457

Yousuf (Jay) Philips  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|NEW |RESOLVED
 Resolution|--- |DUPLICATE

--- Comment #2 from Yousuf (Jay) Philips  ---


*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 87651 ***

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 87651] SIDEBAR: Addition of bullet commands in Impress

2015-06-11 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=87651

--- Comment #2 from Yousuf (Jay) Philips  ---
*** Bug 89457 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 91990] Start Center: convert Help and Extension buttons

2015-06-11 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=91990

--- Comment #5 from steve -_-  ---
Actually agree with Yousuf on this. Both items don't add much value to the
start center. The start center is about getting the user started by showing
nice templates or the last used documents. So actually I'd +1 for a removal of
both items.

Adolfo: Either way, should we keep those 2 items as is, then there's still the
problem, that when you hoover over one of them, the user sees a button (which
was not there when not hoovering. That is very odd behavior and those two items
should behave consistently with the other items in the left side panel.
Meaning: they should not convert to a button suddenly, once you hoover but
change their background color as the other items do when the mouse if hoovered
over them.

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