[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 80941] LibreOffice should be installable from a GUI

2015-08-18 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=80941

--- Comment #23 from Jean-Baptiste Faure  ---
(In reply to Joel Madero from comment #22)
> @JBF - this is not at all how we judge enhancements. "I don't think we
> should waste our time" is not a valid argument for closing an enhancement
> request - maybe some volunteer thinks this isn't a waste of time at
> all...we're not paying anyone so it's not wasting anyone's time (because
> things are taken by choice not dictated).

I think you don't take into account the time spent by reviewers, QA testers and
translators that is required by a new development.

Best regards. JBF

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 87902] Default page margins

2015-08-18 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=87902

--- Comment #4 from Yousuf (Jay) Philips  ---
Can anyone identify where/why this change was discussed in the OOo days?

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 80941] LibreOffice should be installable from a GUI

2015-08-18 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=80941

--- Comment #22 from Joel Madero  ---
@JBF - this is not at all how we judge enhancements. "I don't think we should
waste our time" is not a valid argument for closing an enhancement request -
maybe some volunteer thinks this isn't a waste of time at all...we're not
paying anyone so it's not wasting anyone's time (because things are taken by
choice not dictated).

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 82504] EDITING: Background color button should fill cell background and not paragraph color when in a cell (proposed solution in comment #10)

2015-08-18 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=82504

Yousuf (Jay) Philips  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

Summary|EDITING: Background color   |EDITING: Background color
   |button should fill cell |button should fill cell
   |background and not  |background and not
   |paragraph color when in a   |paragraph color when in a
   |cell (proposed solution in  |cell (proposed solution in
   |comment #12)|comment #10)
 Whiteboard||needsDevEval topicUI

--- Comment #19 from Yousuf (Jay) Philips  ---
(In reply to Cor Nouws from comment #12)
> Created attachment 108560 [details]
> picture with to be changed button and the one to stay

The 'ab' icon is limited to sifr.

> Yes, that's by far best. Add since change paragraph background is still on
> the standard toolbar, people can choose.
> I would suggest another icon too when changing the behaviour..

Paragraph background is no longer by default in the standard toolbar since 4.4.
There isnt a need for a new icon as a new UNO command isnt being created, but
the behaviour of the command is acting the same as when you select a cell as
when you are inside a cell as using the button.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 80941] LibreOffice should be installable from a GUI

2015-08-18 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=80941

--- Comment #21 from Michael Stahl  ---
(In reply to Yousuf (Jay) Philips from comment #19)
> Would be good to bundle the install script with the DEB zip file if it works
> on dpkg systems.

i'm afraid you are missing the point - it is possible to install
the *RPM* packages into an arbitrary directory as non-root on a DEB-based
system, and the install script *only* works with RPM packages.

i do not know if it is possible to write a similar script for DEB packages,
nobody has tried it yet, you are welcome to give it a try.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 80941] LibreOffice should be installable from a GUI

2015-08-18 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=80941

Jean-Baptiste Faure  changed:

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 CC||jbfa...@libreoffice.org

--- Comment #20 from Jean-Baptiste Faure  ---
I disagree with wasting resources to design a GUI installer for Linux. 

If the user is not an advanced user, he should rely on the version provided by
its distribution. If this version is too old, he should upgrade its
distribution or learn the means provided by its distribution to follow the most
recent version of LibreOffice (ad-hoc ppa in Ubuntu for example).

If the user is an advanced user, he will not find any gain using a GUI to do
what he certainly already does with a script (== only one command). I build LO
several times a day in release configuration and each time I make a standard
installation, I only need to type a command like "sudo ./install_LO5". It is
far easier than using a GUI because in my script I make 4 installations,
LibreOffice, fr localization, fr help and en-us help. How many clicks to do the
same in a GUI?

If the user is not an advanced user but want to make QA-test, I think that this
user need to become an advanced user and be able to repair its LibreOffice
installation and even its system. For him, command line installation is an
easier task than losing time with a GUI.


Best regards. JBF

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 80941] LibreOffice should be installable from a GUI

2015-08-18 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=80941

Yousuf (Jay) Philips  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 CC||libreoffice-ux-advise@lists
   ||.freedesktop.org,
   ||qu...@runcibility.com
 Whiteboard||needsDevEval topicUI

--- Comment #19 from Yousuf (Jay) Philips  ---
(In reply to Michael Stahl from comment #14)
> by the way, installing any number of different versions of the RPM
> packages is already possible, i've got about 100 of them on my
> build box, just use the bundled "install" script, it works even
> on dpkg based systems...

Would be good to bundle the install script with the DEB zip file if it works on
dpkg systems.

The problem ultimately comes down to how linux distributions handle updating
packages and even with a GUI installer, it wont solve all the problems that
users feel that it will solve, which is why we encourage users to find suitable
means provided by their distribution to update LibreOffice (e.g. using PPA for
Ubuntu and its derivatives). An example of what the GUI installer wont be able
to fix when comparing it to a updated repo or PPA is that when an update comes
a long, a user who used the GUI installer while have to go to the website to
get the latest version, while a user on an updated repo or PPA can open up
synaptic or their update manager and easily update.

We should likely include the necessary instructions on how a linux user can get
the latest updated versions through their distro on the libreoffice download
page, similar to how Wine does it ( https://www.winehq.org/download/ ).

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 93326] Calc: Alt+E, I, D to fill down now (LO 4.4+ ) toggles edit mode

2015-08-18 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=93326

--- Comment #10 from Commit Notification 
 ---
Eike Rathke committed a patch related to this issue.
It has been pushed to "libreoffice-5-0-1":

http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?id=2a43a11b6580364c96d16ce8c6bfe5acd49652e5&h=libreoffice-5-0-1

Resolves: tdf#93326 >Fill< to >F~ill<, >Ed~it Mode< to >E~dit Mode<

It will be available in 5.0.1.

The patch should be included in the daily builds available at
http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/ in the next 24-48 hours. More
information about daily builds can be found at:
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Testing_Daily_Builds
Affected users are encouraged to test the fix and report feedback.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 93326] Calc: Alt+E, I, D to fill down now (LO 4.4+ ) toggles edit mode

2015-08-18 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=93326

Commit Notification  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Whiteboard|a11y target:5.1.0   |a11y target:5.1.0
   |target:4.4.6 target:5.0.2   |target:4.4.6 target:5.0.2
   ||target:5.0.1

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 82504] EDITING: Background color button should fill cell background and not paragraph color when in a cell (proposed solution in comment #12)

2015-08-18 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=82504

Cor Nouws  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

  Component|ux-advise   |Writer
Summary|EDITING: Background color   |EDITING: Background color
   |button should fill cell |button should fill cell
   |background and not  |background and not
   |paragraph color when in a   |paragraph color when in a
   |cell|cell (proposed solution in
   ||comment #12)

--- Comment #18 from Cor Nouws  ---
Hi Norbert,

Thanks for posting that information here and for reminding that..

(In reply to Norbert X from comment #17)

> So please confirm this bug. For me it seems that priority should be Normal.

The bug is confirmed, proposed solution in comment #12. So I'll change settings
accordingly.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 82504] EDITING: Background color button should fill cell background and not paragraph color when in a cell

2015-08-18 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=82504

Norbert X  changed:

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--- Comment #17 from Norbert X  ---
Created attachment 117994
  --> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=117994&action=edit
Screenshots to demonstrate cell background bug

Dear all. I have the same problem. I was going to report new bug and went to
this report. I reported a bug to Ubuntu Launchpad
(https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1485955) too.
Here are my bug report and screenshots.

> Steps to reproduce:
>1. Launch LibreOffice Writer
>2. Insert table to the new document (Table -> Insert -> Table)
>3. Write some multirow text in table cells
>4. Try to change cell background:
>   4.1. place cursor on desired cell
>   4.2. select color from palette from "Background Color" drop-down 
> (located on Table toolbar).
>   4.3. click "Background Color" button on Table toolbar.
>
> Expected results:
>background color of TABLE CELL (where cursor was) is changed to desired 
> color.
>
> Actual results:
>background color of TEXT PARAGRAPH (where cursor was) is changed to 
> desired color.
>
> Workaround:
>There is slow non-intuitive background - select whole cell, select color 
> from palette from "Background Color" drop-down (located on Table toolbar), 
> click "Background Color" button on Table toolbar.
>
> Affected versions:
>LibreOffice 3.5.7.2 Build ID: 350m1(Build:2) = pre-installed Ubuntu 
> 12.04.5 LTS version;
>LibreOffice 4.2.7.2 Build ID: 420m0(Build:2) = pre-installed Ubuntu 
> 14.04.2 LTS version;
>LibreOffice 4.4.2.2 Build ID: 40m0(Build:2) = pre-installed Ubuntu 15.04 
> version.
>
> Comment:
>I can't believe how this bug is possible. It is inherited from OO.org (I 
> saw it on OO.org 3.2 in Ubuntu 10.04.4 LTS too).
>Microsoft Word 2003 and 2007 of course have normal behaviour with cell 
> background.
>I attached pdf document with screenshots.

Bug exists in LibO 5 too.

So please confirm this bug. For me it seems that priority should be Normal.
This is a very often used functionality. Thank you!

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 82504] EDITING: Background color button should fill cell background and not paragraph color when in a cell

2015-08-18 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=82504

Norbert X  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

   See Also||https://launchpad.net/bugs/
   ||1485955

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