[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 102779] Notebookbar: Add spacing/padding around tab labels

2016-10-02 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=102779

--- Comment #2 from General Kutuzov  ---
This is really useful when LO 5.3 interface will be translated into Chinese,
Japanese and Korean.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 102922] Password fields should use “•” as masking character instead of “*”

2016-10-02 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=102922

V Stuart Foote  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEW
 CC||vstuart.fo...@utsa.edu
 Ever confirmed|0   |1

--- Comment #1 from V Stuart Foote  ---
OK, a reasonable change.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 102922] New: Password fields should use “•” as masking character instead of “*”

2016-10-02 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=102922

Bug ID: 102922
   Summary: Password fields should use “•” as masking character
instead of “*”
   Product: LibreOffice
   Version: Inherited From OOo
  Hardware: All
OS: All
Status: UNCONFIRMED
  Keywords: needsUXEval
  Severity: trivial
  Priority: medium
 Component: UI
  Assignee: libreoffice-b...@lists.freedesktop.org
  Reporter: f...@libreoffice.org
CC: libreoffice-ux-advise@lists.freedesktop.org
Blocks: 102019

Asterisks have long been replaced by bullets in password fields in most
software out there, at least since the Windows XP era. LibreOffice’s
authentication dialogs (e.g., Remote Files) still use asterisks though,
contributing to an outdated look.

I was reminded of this due to the latest logo update by LastPass, in which they
do this exact change due to apparent associations with profanity censoring,
something people use asterisks for. [1]

The Unicode value for the password bullet (from GNOME) is U+2022. This
character is well supported in UI fonts from every platform we run on.

[1]
http://www.underconsideration.com/brandnew/archives/new_logo_for_lastpass.php


Referenced Bugs:

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=102019
[Bug 102019] [META] Dialog bugs and enhancements
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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 100604] Should "Clear Direct Formatting" uno: ResetAttribute always be enabled?

2016-10-02 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=100604

--- Comment #5 from Heiko Tietze  ---
(In reply to V Stuart Foote from comment #4)
> Why would they be disabled?

Would be a nice indicator if the object is formatted directly, not necessary
but a nice to have. However, it sounds not that simple to implement.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 102915] Restore Clear Direct Formatting (an uno: ResetAttributes command) to the context menu

2016-10-02 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=102915

--- Comment #19 from Heiko Tietze  ---
(In reply to V Stuart Foote from comment #14)
> @Jay, Heiko, Samuel, Kendy

You argumentation to focus on styles make sense. Likewise tagezi's concerns of
missing functionality. Let's ask the LibO community to get an impression.

https://plus.google.com/107566594492891737454/posts/T9RpbhVM2cS

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 102915] Restore Clear Direct Formatting (an uno: ResetAttributes command) to the context menu

2016-10-02 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=102915

--- Comment #18 from kompilainenn <79045_79...@mail.ru> ---
tagezi: do it yourself =) this is easy patch.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 102915] Restore Clear Direct Formatting (an uno: ResetAttributes command) to the context menu

2016-10-02 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=102915

V Stuart Foote  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

   Priority|medium  |low
Summary|The item Clear Direct   |Restore Clear Direct
   |Formatting is missing from  |Formatting (an
   |the context menu|uno:ResetAttributes
   ||command) to the context
   ||menu
   Severity|normal  |enhancement

--- Comment #17 from V Stuart Foote  ---
Well, clearly not a bug as it was done intentionally and functions as intended.
At most an enhancment--if ill advised.

Adjusting summary.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 102915] The item Clear Direct Formatting is missing from the context menu

2016-10-02 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=102915

--- Comment #16 from tagezi  ---
(In reply to V Stuart Foote from comment #14)
> @Jay, Heiko, Samuel, Kendy
> 
> Personally, I don't think so as I find that between the +M global
> shortcut, the Formatting toolbar and the Format menu entry there is more
> than sufficient coverage without needing an item on the context menu(s).

Following your logic, we can remove all the context menu.

Since I use two hands when editing documents, one on the keyboard, and the
other on the mouse, I'll lose up to 3 seconds in any other mode. It can be up
to 3-4 minutes on a document page, just to wave a hand. For me, the most
convenient to use the context menu.

The context menu has a lot of other useless functions (such as copy (Ctrl+C),
cut (Ctrl+X), paste (Ctrl+V), paragraph (because it has to be done through
styles)). Why Clear Direct Formatting?

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 102915] The item Clear Direct Formatting is missing from the context menu

2016-10-02 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=102915

--- Comment #15 from Cor Nouws  ---
(In reply to V Stuart Foote from comment #14)
> @Jay, Heiko, Samuel, Kendy

> Personally, I don't think so as I find that between the +M global
> ...

and for your convenience: comment 7, comment 11 and comment 12 give arguments
for the other view ;)

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 102915] The item Clear Direct Formatting is missing from the context menu

2016-10-02 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=102915

--- Comment #14 from V Stuart Foote  ---
@Jay, Heiko, Samuel, Kendy

Did Maxim overshoot during conversion of the context menus for customization?
Should a "Clear Direct Formatting" be included by default on the context menu?

Personally, I don't think so as I find that between the +M global
shortcut, the Formatting toolbar and the Format menu entry there is more than
sufficient coverage without needing an item on the context menu(s).

Stuart

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 92657] Questionable Default for Bullet Sizing

2016-10-02 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=92657

Buovjaga  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

   Keywords||needsUXEval
 CC||libreoffice-ux-advise@lists
   ||.freedesktop.org

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 102915] The item Clear Direct Formatting is missing from the context menu

2016-10-02 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=102915

Cor Nouws  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|REOPENED|NEW

--- Comment #13 from Cor Nouws  ---
Maybe looking at this specific commend in a UX-meeting (again?) is useful?

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 102915] The item Clear Direct Formatting is missing from the context menu

2016-10-02 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=102915

Cor Nouws  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|RESOLVED|REOPENED
 Resolution|NOTABUG |---

--- Comment #12 from Cor Nouws  ---
Hi Stuart,

Thanks for the new arguments. However, to me it looks that this command has
been removed maybe in a slip..

(In reply to V Stuart Foote from comment #8)
> @Cor, *
> 
> It was removed during Maxim's work on making all src based context menus
> user customizable implementing XML configuration for bug 93837 

For now, I have see no argumentation to remove that specific command.

> Followed recommended simplifications of the context menu per Design UX
> decision as argued in bug 81132 and bug 86606

Which is a good thing in general.

> With XML based customization now supported--no reason to keep unhelpful
> defaults in the context menus.

I don't think it's unhelpful at all.
Copy/Cut/Paste are in the context menu, main menu, toolbars and have shortcuts.
Clear Direct Formatting is maybe not that often used, but at least as
important.

See also my arguments in comment 7.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 102915] The item Clear Direct Formatting is missing from the context menu

2016-10-02 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=102915

--- Comment #11 from tagezi  ---
(In reply to V Stuart Foote from comment #10)
> (In reply to tagezi from comment #9)
> > Could you give a link to studies that suggest that this item is not needed?
> > Or is it the opinion of 5 people who decide that the 2-million people are
> > needed and what is not?
> 
> See also, and we meet continually
> http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=libreoffice-design
> 
> and hold Weekly meeting in-person via Google Hangouts
> 
> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Meetings
> 
> feel free to drop in and contribute.

I'm sorry, but that you have indicated there is no new information. Removing
the item is not only logical, but also harmful. And the fact that the design
team did not see such a simple thing very frustrating. I feel that with this
approach, the design team will create us something like MSO - absolutely not
usability thing.

Moreover, I have already said:

(In reply to V Stuart Foote from comment #10)
> (In reply to tagezi from comment #9)
> I tried to add this item to the menu. But when installing the new version,
> he disappears again. Also, I will have to add it each time when the user
> profile reset , if the bug is associated with it. So, I add it for the third
> time in the menu for the last 2 months.

In addition, I can say that I am in a chat under the same nickname almost
constantly (24/7/365).

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 102915] The item Clear Direct Formatting is missing from the context menu

2016-10-02 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=102915

--- Comment #10 from V Stuart Foote  ---
(In reply to tagezi from comment #9)
> Could you give a link to studies that suggest that this item is not needed?
> Or is it the opinion of 5 people who decide that the 2-million people are
> needed and what is not?

See also, and we meet continually
http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=libreoffice-design

and hold Weekly meeting in-person via Google Hangouts

https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Meetings

feel free to drop in and contribute.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 86606] CONTEXT MENU: Removal of remaining direct formatting entries

2016-10-02 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=86606

V Stuart Foote  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

   See Also||https://bugs.documentfounda
   ||tion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10
   ||2915

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 81132] Removal of formatting options from the right-click context menu in Writer

2016-10-02 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=81132

V Stuart Foote  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

   See Also||https://bugs.documentfounda
   ||tion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10
   ||2915

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 93837] Allow customization of the Context Menus

2016-10-02 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=93837

V Stuart Foote  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

   See Also||https://bugs.documentfounda
   ||tion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10
   ||2915

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 102915] The item Clear Direct Formatting is missing from the context menu

2016-10-02 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=102915

V Stuart Foote  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

   See Also||https://bugs.documentfounda
   ||tion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=93
   ||837,
   ||https://bugs.documentfounda
   ||tion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=81
   ||132,
   ||https://bugs.documentfounda
   ||tion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=86
   ||606

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 102915] The item Clear Direct Formatting is missing from the context menu

2016-10-02 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=102915

--- Comment #9 from tagezi  ---
(In reply to V Stuart Foote from comment #8)
> @Cor, *

> With XML based customization now supported--no reason to keep unhelpful
> defaults in the context menus.
Could you give a link to studies that suggest that this item is not needed? Or
is it the opinion of 5 people who decide that the 2-million people are needed
and what is not?

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 93837] Allow customization of the Context Menus

2016-10-02 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=93837

V Stuart Foote  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

   See Also||https://bugs.documentfounda
   ||tion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=81
   ||132

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 86606] CONTEXT MENU: Removal of remaining direct formatting entries

2016-10-02 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=86606

V Stuart Foote  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

   See Also||https://bugs.documentfounda
   ||tion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=81
   ||132

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 81132] Removal of formatting options from the right-click context menu in Writer

2016-10-02 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=81132

V Stuart Foote  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 CC||vstuart.fo...@utsa.edu
   See Also||https://bugs.documentfounda
   ||tion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=86
   ||606,
   ||https://bugs.documentfounda
   ||tion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=93
   ||837

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 102915] The item Clear Direct Formatting is missing from the context menu

2016-10-02 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=102915

V Stuart Foote  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|NEW |RESOLVED
 Resolution|--- |NOTABUG
 OS|Linux (All) |All

--- Comment #8 from V Stuart Foote  ---
@Cor, *

It was removed during Maxim's work on making all src based context menus user
customizable implementing XML configuration for bug 93837 

Followed recommended simplifications of the context menu per Design UX decision
as argued in bug 81132 and bug 86606

With XML based customization now supported--no reason to keep unhelpful
defaults in the context menus.

=-=

For those that prefer it available on Context menus, trivial now to add it back
as a per user customization recorded to profile.

Tools -> Customize -> Context Menus tab

Select the Text menu from dropdown list.

Select the Add button.

Browse the Category list to the Format class.

Scroll the Commands list to "Clear Direct Formatting".

Add button and close to add it to the Menu content for the context menu.

Drag up or down to adjust its position on Context menu.


=-ref-=
https://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?id=447c313586e9b36acff393feae15f5e1b63861ae

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 86606] CONTEXT MENU: Removal of remaining direct formatting entries

2016-10-02 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=86606

--- Comment #19 from V Stuart Foote  ---
(In reply to Octavio Alvarez from comment #18)
> I also consider the bug merging to be a mistake, as neither bug has anything
> to do with the other one.
> 

OK, sure it is undone.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 100604] Should "Clear Direct Formatting" uno: ResetAttribute always be enabled?

2016-10-02 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=100604

V Stuart Foote  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

   Keywords||needsUXEval
 Status|RESOLVED|NEW
 CC||libreoffice-ux-advise@lists
   ||.freedesktop.org,
   ||vstuart.fo...@utsa.edu
 Resolution|DUPLICATE   |---
Summary|"Clear Direct Formatting"   |Should "Clear Direct
   |is enabled if there is  |Formatting"
   |nothing to do   |uno:ResetAttribute always
   ||be enabled?

--- Comment #4 from V Stuart Foote  ---
(In reply to sworddragon2 from comment #0)
> On opening Writer and moving the cursor to any unformatted text the "Clear
> Direct Formatting" context menu entry and button in the symbol bar are not
> disabled.

Why would they be disabled? The UNO command uno:ResetAttributes remains active
at all times. It is not implemented to be a selection driven activation, but
shifts focus of its action to object that is selected.

Meaning that when cursor is present in the document canvas with no selection
made--the cleared attribute would apply to the character the text cursor is
sitting on, or the word containing it, or to the paragraph depending on the
class of attribute being cleared.

And of course the UNO ResetAttributes used for the "Clear Direct formatting"
entry in the context menu was removed at 5.2 (see bug 86606 and bug 81132 for
ongoing work to reduce context menu emphasis on Direct Formatting).

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 102915] The item Clear Direct Formatting is missing from the context menu

2016-10-02 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=102915

Cor Nouws  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|REOPENED|NEW

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 102915] The item Clear Direct Formatting is missing from the context menu

2016-10-02 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=102915

Cor Nouws  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|RESOLVED|REOPENED
 CC||c...@nouenoff.nl
 Resolution|NOTABUG |---
 Ever confirmed|0   |1

--- Comment #7 from Cor Nouws  ---
(In reply to V Stuart Foote from comment #5)
> Direct formatting controls present with default Context menu(s) have been
> removed by design (bug 86606).

Few things that I notice:
1. Dialogs Character, Paragraph and Bullets and Numbering are also direct
formatting tools. And present in the context menu.
2. Clear Direct Formatting is to be considered a styles tool.
3. Further more I don't see any mention, nor argumentation to remove Clear
Direct Formatting in bug 86606. 

So I consider this bug report valid.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 102915] The item Clear Direct Formatting is missing from the context menu

2016-10-02 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=102915

--- Comment #6 from tagezi  ---
I do not understand the logic of how will promote the use of styles of deleting
the item . It is better to remove the buttons "bold", "italics" and "underline"
from the toolbar.

However, I use this option very often, because the first thing I need to do in
the document before you start to work with it is to remove all the manual
formatting. (For example,
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:LO4.x_Reference_A4_Calc_Impress_Base.odt
, such files exist 32).
Because the Design team also decided to remove some of the keyboard shortcuts
(for example, CTRL + F4, apparently in order that human could consider about
close a document one more time), the document management, with only the
keyboard is not convenient. Also, I mark a place in a document in yellow colour
to quickly find it,  if I have questions. Using styles is not desirable for
them, because after work, I have to be sure that deleted all such notes. Thus,
I keep one hand on the keyboard and the other on the mouse in order to run
faster.
I tried to add this item to the menu. But when installing the new version, he
disappears again. Also, I will have to add it each time when the user profile
reset , if the bug is associated with it. So, I add it for the third time in
the menu for the last 2 months.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 86606] CONTEXT MENU: Removal of remaining direct formatting entries

2016-10-02 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=86606

--- Comment #18 from Octavio Alvarez  ---
I also consider the bug merging to be a mistake, as neither bug has anything to
do with the other one.

This bug talks about removal of individual DF attributes from the context menu,
while #100604 talks about the state of the "Clear DF" context menu item not
being context-aware.

Comment #16 just makes no sense and just introduced noise. It talks about the
control state in the toolbar and the menu bar, but the original bug has nothing
to do with it. It states that "Direct formatting has been removed from the
default configuration of the context menu", it apparently implying that "Clear
DF" is removed too or should be removed too.

Now both bugs are confusing, as there is now some implication that "Clear DF"
is or should be removed from the context menu, but "Clear DF" *has not* been
removed from the context menu, and...

"Clear DF" *should not* be removed from the context menu because the context
menu *still has* DF in the form of the "Character..." and "Paragraph..." menu
items, as opposed to what was stated in comment #16.

I agree they are related, though, so "See also" might be a good idea and
possibly appropriate, but "duplicate" is definitely false.

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