[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 105538] Download destination folder should be default to Download folder on Windows

2017-08-02 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=105538

--- Comment #13 from Markus Mohrhard  ---
(In reply to V Stuart Foote from comment #12)
> (In reply to Takeshi Abe from comment #11)
> > By the way, is it better or not to apply a similar change to other OS than
> > Windows too?
> 
> @moggi, this covers Windows but is controling a suitable download location
> for updates going to need attention cross platform moving forward with your
> MAR based incrementals?

First this bug report is about the old update checker and not the new automatic
updater. Most likely this bug will go away at some point just by removing the
old update checker.

The new updater is going to store the update files in the LibreOffice user
profile for now.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 105538] Download destination folder should be default to Download folder on Windows

2017-08-02 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=105538

V Stuart Foote  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 CC||markus.mohrhard@googlemail.
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--- Comment #12 from V Stuart Foote  ---
(In reply to Takeshi Abe from comment #11)
> By the way, is it better or not to apply a similar change to other OS than
> Windows too?

@moggi, this covers Windows but is controling a suitable download location for
updates going to need attention cross platform moving forward with your MAR
based incrementals?

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 105538] Download destination folder should be default to Download folder on Windows

2017-08-02 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=105538

--- Comment #11 from Takeshi Abe  ---
By the way, is it better or not to apply a similar change to other OS than
Windows too?

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 111082] Allow change of orientation, by clicking on page image in the page style dialog

2017-08-02 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=111082

V Stuart Foote  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 CC||vstuart.fo...@utsa.edu

--- Comment #3 from V Stuart Foote  ---
Hmm, the thumbnail preview widget already responds to setting any of the
values--Format, Width, Height, Orientation, Text direction, Margins and Layout. 

Guess it would be possible to make the preview thumbnail active--but I would
not remove any of the existing controls--they are sequenced for keyboar only
use and a11y. 

But does it make sense to do so just for the page orientation? Might margins be
dragable. 

Note that the same Page Style dialog, in the Borders dialog, we already have
the Line Arrangement User-defined preview. That thumbnail widget s active--its
sequence of "check-box" events are graphically shown in its preview frame with
rendering responding to setting the Line: Style, Width, and Color values on the
same dialog tab.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 110001] Light grey inner border not always rendered

2017-08-02 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=110001

--- Comment #9 from Tomaz Vajngerl  ---
I was thinking to get rid of the blurry shadow here as it is quite
computationally expensive (this implementation resizes a bitmap all the time)
and most others Office suites don't use it anymore.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 110436] Removal of the Master Pages sidebar deck

2017-08-02 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=110436

--- Comment #15 from Yousuf Philips (jay)  ---
(In reply to V Stuart Foote from comment #14)
> 1. preparing a new presentation template

Can you clarify this. If a user starts with a blank template and choose not to
use one of the available default templates, they will create their own master
slides.

> 2. assembling a presentation and drawing from multiple master slide sources

You can pull in the first master slide from an available template but not
any/all the master slides in a template, which makes this functionality only
partially usable, while Slide > Slide Master Design > Load gives you the full
functionality of pulling any master slide from any template.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 110436] Removal of the Master Pages sidebar deck

2017-08-02 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=110436

--- Comment #14 from V Stuart Foote  ---
(In reply to Yousuf Philips (jay) from comment #13)
> (In reply to Gabor Kelemen from comment #12)
> > When you create a new slide it inherits the master page setting of the
> > previous slide. How can one switch to the other custom master page?
> 
> You can easily do so with the Master Slide dropdown menu of the Slide
> content panel of the Properties deck introduced in LO 5.2.
> 
> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:LO-5.2-Impress-Sidebar-Prop.-Slide.
> png
> 

Only if the Master Slide had been used in the presentation, or is defined in
the template it started from. Otherwise the Master Pages tab/deck is still
needed while:

1. preparing a new presentation template
or
2. assembling a presentation and drawing from multiple master slide sources

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 110001] Light grey inner border not always rendered

2017-08-02 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=110001

--- Comment #8 from Yousuf Philips (jay)  ---
Created attachment 135075
  --> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=135075&action=edit
screenshot

(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #7)
> Created attachment 135074 [details]
> 250 vs. 280% zoom factor, W7, OpenGL disabled

In one there is no inner border and in the second there is, but when it appears
in one side and not in the other side (screenshot), it doesnt look so crisp.
And when it appears sometimes and others randomly at the same or different zoom
levels, this complicates things more.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 110436] Removal of the Master Pages sidebar deck

2017-08-02 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=110436

--- Comment #13 from Yousuf Philips (jay)  ---
(In reply to Gabor Kelemen from comment #12)
> When you create a new slide it inherits the master page setting of the
> previous slide. How can one switch to the other custom master page?

You can easily do so with the Master Slide dropdown menu of the Slide content
panel of the Properties deck introduced in LO 5.2.

https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:LO-5.2-Impress-Sidebar-Prop.-Slide.png

> Thus the alternatives are: one click vs a local menu and a window to
> navigate around.

Wouldnt say option 1 was only 'one click', as the Master Pages deck isnt always
active in the sidebar when users are creating presentations, so they would
first have to click over to the Master Pages deck and then click on a master
slide to apply it.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 110001] Light grey inner border not always rendered

2017-08-02 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=110001

--- Comment #7 from Heiko Tietze  ---
Created attachment 135074
  --> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=135074&action=edit
250 vs. 280% zoom factor, W7, OpenGL disabled

(In reply to Yousuf Philips (jay) from comment #6)
> (In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #5)
> > What happens with OpenGL disabled? 
> 
> I dont run with OpenGL on, as my hardware doesnt support it, and assume most
> users dont either, especially with how buggy the intel driver on windows is.
> One way or another, the OpenGL render is to mimic what appears in the
> default renderer, so not sure how this is relevant. Or was this question for
> Fabian? :D

It was a question to both of you. When I disable OpenGL on W7 the border is
more or less crisp depending on the zoom factor.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 110001] Light grey inner border not always rendered

2017-08-02 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=110001

--- Comment #6 from Yousuf Philips (jay)  ---
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #5)
> What happens with OpenGL disabled? 

I dont run with OpenGL on, as my hardware doesnt support it, and assume most
users dont either, especially with how buggy the intel driver on windows is.
One way or another, the OpenGL render is to mimic what appears in the default
renderer, so not sure how this is relevant. Or was this question for Fabian? :D

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 110001] Light grey inner border not always rendered

2017-08-02 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=110001

--- Comment #5 from Heiko Tietze  ---
What happens with OpenGL disabled? 

Tools > Options > View (https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/OpenGL)

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 62554] Some Format menu Split buttons should be disabled (greyed out) when not contextually applicable

2017-08-02 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=62554

Heiko Tietze  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|NEW |RESOLVED
  Component|LibreOffice |UI
 Resolution|--- |WONTFIX

--- Comment #8 from Heiko Tietze  ---
It's common good practice to let the user know what's disabled in hierarchies
such as page/tab controls or in menus. So the answer to "Should Split buttons
on menus be context aware to the context of their child buttons?" is  yes - the
default function can be disabled - and no in case of 'menu buttons' that do not
have a default action but always pop-up a menu that may contain only disabled
items.

=> WF

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 110001] Light grey inner border not always rendered

2017-08-02 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=110001

Yousuf Philips (jay)  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|NEEDINFO|NEW
 CC||philip...@hotmail.com,
   ||vstuart.fo...@utsa.edu
 Blocks||108018
Summary|2 px border of page makes   |Light grey inner border not
   |it look blurry  |always rendered

--- Comment #4 from Yousuf Philips (jay)  ---
So here are some test results, based on zoom level on my 1440x900 resolution.

100% - right missing
110% - top and right missing
120% - all sides missing
140% - right missing
160% - right missing
180% - bottom and right missing

But even these results may change depending on various factors like if the
sidebar is open or not. e.g. at 100% zoom, page 1 had all sides missing and
page 2 had it appear only on the top side when the sidebar was disabled and
then after enabling the sidebar, with it only showing its button bar, page 1
had it appear only on the left side and page 2 had it on the left and top
sides.

(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #2)
> The blurry border looks pretty nice, doesn't it? And on Windows all sides
> appear like this. So what's your OS/DE?

The inner blur looks good as the page also has outer blur, but the page edge
looks crisper/flatter without the inner blur. I'm on Linux Mint.

(In reply to Fabian Alexander Wilms from comment #3)
> Especially on desktop environment with a flat design, like Windows 10 / KDE
> 5.10, a crisp border would look better, in my opinion.

The document area of the UI is the same on any OS and this shouldnt change.

So i checked MS Word 2010 and 2013 and they only have a 1px border. WPS Writer
and iWork Pages dont have a border at all.


Referenced Bugs:

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=108018
[Bug 108018] [META] Writer UX bugs and enhancements
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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 70568] UI: java add-on function inaccessible from Shortcuts Dialog

2017-08-02 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=70568

Heiko Tietze  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

   Keywords|needsUXEval |
 CC|libreoffice-ux-advise@lists |tietze.he...@gmail.com
   |.freedesktop.org|
  Component|LibreOffice |Extensions

--- Comment #6 from Heiko Tietze  ---
Don't think this is a UX question. Java shouldn't be different from Basic
macros.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 111082] Allow change of orientation, by clicking on page image in the page style dialog

2017-08-02 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=111082

Heiko Tietze  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEEDINFO
  Component|UI  |Writer
 Ever confirmed|0   |1

--- Comment #2 from Heiko Tietze  ---
We prefer "boring" controls because of accessibility. Screen readers do not
know about an image and the mnemonics are also suboptimal. Having two ways of
user input is acceptable from the a11y POV but where else do we have this type
of interaction? IMHO this is a WF. Other opinions?

(component UI -> Writer)

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 110436] Removal of the Master Pages sidebar deck

2017-08-02 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=110436

Gabor Kelemen  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 CC||kelem...@ubuntu.com

--- Comment #12 from Gabor Kelemen  ---
It is also useful for quickly applying different master pages to different
slides.

Imagine creating several custom master pages for a default template used by a
company.

When you create a new slide it inherits the master page setting of the previous
slide. How can one switch to the other custom master page?

1) On the Master Pages side bar, under the Used in this Presentation section
click on the master page
2) Right click the slide in the left Slides pane, choose the Slide Master
Design menu item. In the Slide Design window, double click on the master page
you want, or select it and click OK.

Thus the alternatives are: one click vs a local menu and a window to navigate
around.

Please keep this feature.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 111082] Allow change of orientation, by clicking on page image in the page style dialog

2017-08-02 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=111082

Buovjaga  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

   Keywords||needsUXEval
 CC||libreoffice-ux-advise@lists
   ||.freedesktop.org,
   ||todven...@suomi24.fi

--- Comment #1 from Buovjaga  ---
Gavin also threw in the idea that the visual clues might only appear upon
hover.

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