[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 114701] [UI] Missing widget labels in Customization dialog

2018-01-03 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=114701

Heiko Tietze  changed:

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--- Comment #9 from Heiko Tietze  ---
We discussed the topic in the design meeting and suggest to place labels left
aligned _above_ all controls using Search, Category, Function, and Description
on the left side (as today) amd Scope, Target, Function, Customize right hand.

The additional suggestion to have text on +/- won't work. We better provide
tooltips on the controls including the add/delete buttons that remain icon
only.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 114701] [UI] Missing widget labels in Customization dialog

2018-01-03 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=114701

--- Comment #8 from Olivier Hallot  ---
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #7)
> (In reply to Cor Nouws from comment #6)
> > Then shrink the width of the lists a bit.
> 
> The list box width is defined by its content. Don't know, however, why we
> don't define a fix size and use ellipsis or horizontal scrollbar. Muhammet,
> any good reason?

In the past we had tons of ellipsis in the UI. See my rationale against them in
bug#86871. I stand for eliminating them as they are a source of
stress/confusion to most users, especially new LO users.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 114701] [UI] Missing widget labels in Customization dialog

2018-01-03 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=114701

--- Comment #7 from Heiko Tietze  ---
(In reply to Cor Nouws from comment #6)
> Then shrink the width of the lists a bit.

The list box width is defined by its content. Don't know, however, why we don't
define a fix size and use ellipsis or horizontal scrollbar. Muhammet, any good
reason?

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 114701] [UI] Missing widget labels in Customization dialog

2018-01-03 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=114701

--- Comment #6 from Cor Nouws  ---
(In reply to Yousuf Philips (jay) from comment #5)

> The dialog is quite large already (874x674) and adding the labels on the
> left would add additional width to the dialog, which can be even larger in
> localized versions.

Then shrink the width of the lists a bit. At least in Dutch and English,
commands/descriptions that are over half the width of the lists, are rare.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 114701] [UI] Missing widget labels in Customization dialog

2018-01-03 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=114701

Yousuf Philips (jay)  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Blocks||103238
Summary|[UI] Missing widget labels  |[UI] Missing widget labels
   |in Customization dialogs|in Customization dialog

--- Comment #5 from Yousuf Philips (jay)  ---
(In reply to Olivier Hallot from comment #0)
> I also demand to replace the "+" and "-" icons with textual "Add" and
> "Delete" buttons.

I wouldnt be infavour of this.

(In reply to Adolfo Jayme from comment #2)
> The label can perfectly be a tooltip; it‘s easy to add if you agree.

Yep this is the way to go.

(In reply to Cor Nouws from comment #3)
> When skipping 'Functions', the other two could be placed let of the lists,
> without changing the overall view of the dialog too much.

The dialog is quite large already (874x674) and adding the labels on the left
would add additional width to the dialog, which can be even larger in localized
versions.

> is that fine for a11y too?

Yes.


Referenced Bugs:

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=103238
[Bug 103238] [META] Customize dialog bugs and enhancements
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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 114817] New bitmap presets for Area Fill

2018-01-03 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=114817

Heiko Tietze  changed:

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   See Also||https://bugs.documentfounda
   ||tion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10
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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 114817] New bitmap presets for Area Fill

2018-01-03 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=114817

--- Comment #3 from Yousuf Philips (jay)  ---
Created attachment 138854
  --> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=138854&action=edit
MSO bitmap presets

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 114817] New bitmap presets for Area Fill

2018-01-03 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=114817

Yousuf Philips (jay)  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEW
 CC||philip...@hotmail.com
 Blocks||113224
Summary|Area Fill Bitmap new|New bitmap presets for Area
   |Templates   |Fill
 Ever confirmed|0   |1
   Severity|normal  |enhancement

--- Comment #2 from Yousuf Philips (jay)  ---
(In reply to andreas_k from comment #1)
> Template size for the pattern's are now 94x94px can I switch to 256x256px?

Test if it makes a difference and if it doesnt, i dont see why not. I checked
MSO and their bitmap presets are 128x128px.

> I would make some templates by myself (in svg) and add some CC0 templates
> from the internet where I add also an text file with the drawer.

It would be fine to create the bitmaps in svg, but they should be exported to
jpgs for use in documents. LO does have additional bitmap presets in the
Backgrounds folder of the gallery, which could be considered.

https://opengrok.libreoffice.org/xref/core/extras/source/gallery/www-back/


Referenced Bugs:

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=113224
[Bug 113224] [META] Bitmap fill issues of the Area fill tab
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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 100537] Width and relative checkboxes disabled in Table dialog by default with automatic alignment

2018-01-03 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=100537

--- Comment #12 from Telesto  ---
(In reply to Yousuf Philips (jay) from comment #5)
> Setting the table alignment to left by default would enable most of these
> disable checkboxes, so is there a compelling reason why we default to
> automatic alignment?
> 

Yes automatic has some dynamic (relative) resizing feature (not working
perfectly, though: bug 107665)
1. Insert a 2x2 table in writer (table 1)
2. Embed a 2x2 table into a table cell (table 2)
3. Move the inner table border of table 1. The size of table 2 will adapt. The
table size will be absolute when setting it to the left.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 114633] Setting unevenly distributed columns sizes is hard and cumbersome the achieve using Table properties or set width

2018-01-03 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=114633

--- Comment #3 from Telesto  ---
See also: https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=100537#c11

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 114633] Setting unevenly distributed columns sizes is hard and cumbersome the achieve using Table properties or set width

2018-01-03 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=114633

Telesto  changed:

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 Blocks||113088


Referenced Bugs:

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=113088
[Bug 113088] [META] Writer table properties dialog bugs and enhancements
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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 100537] Width and relative checkboxes disabled in Table dialog by default with automatic alignment

2018-01-03 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=100537

Telesto  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 CC||tele...@surfxs.nl
 Blocks||113088


Referenced Bugs:

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=113088
[Bug 113088] [META] Writer table properties dialog bugs and enhancements
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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 114817] Area Fill Bitmap new Templates

2018-01-03 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=114817

Xisco Faulí  changed:

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   Keywords||needsUXEval
 CC||libreoffice-ux-advise@lists
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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 114508] Confusing dialog about discarding recovery data can lead to data loss

2018-01-03 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=114508

--- Comment #6 from Telesto  ---
(In reply to Dan Dascalescu from comment #5)
> Comment on attachment 138679 [details]
> Recovery dialog with two Calc documents
> 
> @Heiko's attachment: yes, I expect Discard to discard only the selected
> item, because it's selected.
> 
> A quick fix to the confusion would be to disable selection.
> 
> Another one would be to rename "Discard" to "Discard all" if more than one
> document was recovered.

Seems the simplest solution, to me. If there a change for the button labels,
please consider a change for 'Start' to something more self-explaining too,
like "Recover documents" or " Recover all".  

I can think of one situation where individual recovery could be useful, but
it's a corner case. For example when a document file generates a crash loop on
opening after recovery, which makes it impossible to recovery the other files.
But that is more about the the way how the recovery process is implemented, and
less about the dialog itself (and I'm not sure about the likelihood to create a
situation like that)

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 114561] Need chapter wise section numbering tool and auto chapter change detection at one place

2018-01-03 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=114561

Heiko Tietze  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEEDINFO
 Ever confirmed|0   |1

--- Comment #3 from Heiko Tietze  ---
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #2)
> Just for clarification...

=> NEEDINFO

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 113008] Signing+saving action should be more explicit and certificate is propagated to "Digital Signatures"

2018-01-03 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=113008

Heiko Tietze  changed:

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 Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEW
 Ever confirmed|0   |1

--- Comment #1 from Heiko Tietze  ---
How about just renaming Ok to Sign?

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 114508] Confusing dialog about discarding recovery data can lead to data loss

2018-01-03 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=114508

--- Comment #5 from Dan Dascalescu  ---
Comment on attachment 138679
  --> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=138679
Recovery dialog with two Calc documents

@Heiko's attachment: yes, I expect Discard to discard only the selected item,
because it's selected.

A quick fix to the confusion would be to disable selection.

Another one would be to rename "Discard" to "Discard all" if more than one
document was recovered.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 113008] Signing+saving action should be more explicit and certificate is propagated to "Digital Signatures"

2018-01-03 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=113008

Xisco Faulí  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

   Keywords||needsUXEval
 CC||libreoffice-ux-advise@lists
   ||.freedesktop.org,
   ||xiscofa...@libreoffice.org

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 112852] Should unapplying Bold remove the attribute or force text to Regular?

2018-01-03 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=112852

cson...@halmai.hu changed:

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--- Comment #10 from cson...@halmai.hu ---
Created attachment 138839
  --> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=138839&action=edit
illustration for the Style Explainer

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 112852] Should unapplying Bold remove the attribute or force text to Regular?

2018-01-03 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=112852

--- Comment #9 from cson...@halmai.hu ---
This question is really a throny one and whichever solution we pick, there will
be use cases when the result is counter-intuitive, annoying or frustrating for
the users. 

So, I propose to add some explanation to the UI that helps the user to
understand what is happening. 

I think we could use something that is similar to the DOM inspector in the
Developer Tools of the modern browsers (Firefox, Chrome) that explains how
Style Sheet rules work.

When the user clicks an element on the web page (places a virtual cursor there)
then the DOM inspector shows what rules are applied to that part of the
document and how the contradicting rules override each other producing the end
result. 

It simply just lists all the rules and their declaration components that are
applied to the given position and strikes thruogh the ones that are overridden
by some other. After a short learning curve it is quite usable. 

I created a screen shot which shows how LibreOffice could display such a tool
in the Styles And Formatting dialog. I called it just Style Explainer. 

Unfortunately this is not a simple change in LO, it is quite a lot of work to
implement but it would be awesome to use. Actually, I think it would be a
feature that can attarct new users to the LO so maybe it is worth working on
it. :)

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 114508] Confusing dialog about discarding recovery data can lead to data loss

2018-01-03 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=114508

--- Comment #4 from Heiko Tietze  ---
(In reply to csongor from comment #3)
> I would like to have the following buttons:
> - Discard Selected
> - Discard All
> - Recover Selected
> - Recover All

That makes the UI unnecessary difficult - and presumes that we have a selection
mechanism. IMHO we have two options, a) keep everything as it is or b)
introduce checkboxes, check all by default, and provide the functions Recover
Selected (which is actually Okay) and Discard All (meaning Cancel). There is no
need for a confirmation neither to have various interactions.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 112541] Named color for shapes

2018-01-03 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=112541

Heiko Tietze  changed:

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   Keywords|needsUXEval |
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--- Comment #3 from Heiko Tietze  ---
Suggestion on the mailing list to switch from blue to green received positive
resonance (it should be a color from the standard palette rather than a
branding color to not always switch back and forth)
http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Default-color-for-shapes-tt4229331.html

Shape color is defined in include/svx/xdef.hxx as #define
COL_DEFAULT_SHAPE_FILLING 0x729fcf. Unfortunately, the hard-coded color value
is spread over the source code in particular at the unit tests. Decision in ESC
was to to separate default on filter from default in UI. 
http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/minutes-of-ESC-call-tt4229532.html

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