[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 138658] UI: Confusing categorization of the 'Hidden' feature

2020-12-10 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=138658

--- Comment #13 from Mike Kaganski  ---
(In reply to Mike Kaganski from comment #12)
> (In reply to Christian Lehmann from comment #11)
> > then it should probably not be a feature in the submenu
> > 'Format - Character' and instead a separate item one level higher up in the
> > hierarchy, viz. in the 'Format' menu. Call it 'Hide text' or something like
> > this.
> 
> So again: no.

To clarify: what I feel being *wrong* in your proposal is the *not* in the "it
should probably not be a feature in the submenu 'Format - Character'". It could
be OK  if you re-phrase it as "it should probably not only be a feature in the
submenu 'Format - Character'".

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 131947] Writer sidebar minimum width is too wide when docked (see comment 16 comment 22)

2020-12-10 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=131947

--- Comment #38 from andis.lazd...@gmail.com ---
Sad to hear such absolutely non-substantiated decision. Thanks' to such
decisions it becomes very hard to tempt somebody to stay with Libreoffice.

In our company will find better use for money booked for donation to
Libreoffice this year.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 131947] Writer sidebar minimum width is too wide when docked (see comment 16 comment 22)

2020-12-10 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=131947

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--- Comment #37 from V Stuart Foote  ---
OK, with nothing substantive being proposed, guess this can be closed => NAB

Likewise as enhancement request to modify Sidebar GUI layout, seems
non-actionable and a clear => WF

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 138658] UI: Confusing categorization of the 'Hidden' feature

2020-12-10 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=138658

--- Comment #12 from Mike Kaganski  ---
(In reply to Christian Lehmann from comment #11)
> Ad 1 and 2

In theory, your PoV has its reason. The characters get "removed" from layout
using this setting, and as such, it might be considered not an effect.

But it is, nevertheless, a setting applied at character run level. As such, it
*must* be in the character dialog, no matter if you *also* provide a
convenience way of accessing this in another place.

By the way, you may be interested in a *reverse* discussion in tdf#138628,
where the existence of convenience dialog for inserting (page) breaks makes
people confused that the page break is actually a property of paragraph, and
lets some to suggest that the convenience means must give clearer idea what is
actually being done under the hood.

> Ad 3: If the 'Hidden' feature can be applied to any component of the
> document, from a single character via a paragraph and a table row up to an
> entire section,

No. You seem to ignore my words. I already wrote, that the effect that you
describe as "applying it to a table row" is a misconception, and a side effect
of *multiple* settings that you have in your table. You do A, then B, then C,
then D, and then the row is collapsed to zero height. And based on that, you
call D "a function to hide rows (among other things)". But why not B? If you
did it in another order, B could happen to be the change that collapsed the
row!

> then it should probably not be a feature in the submenu
> 'Format - Character' and instead a separate item one level higher up in the
> hierarchy, viz. in the 'Format' menu. Call it 'Hide text' or something like
> this.

So again: no. This is a setting applied to text runs - which is, in LibreOffice
terminology, a character property. A convenience access is a different thing.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 138658] UI: Confusing categorization of the 'Hidden' feature

2020-12-10 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=138658

--- Comment #11 from Christian Lehmann  ---
Thanks for the detailed explanations. There are apparently more than one
problem hidden here:

Ad 1 and 2: In discussing the nature of "Hidden characters", it may seem that
we are arguing about words. Anyway, it may be helpful to distinguish two cases:
a) A string of characters is hidden in the sense that they cannot be seen at
the place where they are. The standard method of producing this effect would be
to choose white print on white background.
b) Part of the text is hidden in the sense that no space is provided to display
it. This is currently the effect of the feature "Hidden".
To my understanding, #a is a font effect, i.e. it is actually a typographic
modification of the font like italics etc. #b, on the contrary, is an option of
displaying the document in its entirety or just selected parts.
This is why I had suggested to list function #b in the 'View' menu. If I
understand you correctly, the reason you find this wrong is that the "hidden"
text is not only suppressed from the screen display, but also from the
printout. In this, our 'hidden' function would indeed differ from other options
under 'View' like 'Show comments' or 'Show Formatting marks'.

Ad 3: If the 'Hidden' feature can be applied to any component of the document,
from a single character via a paragraph and a table row up to an entire
section, then it should probably not be a feature in the submenu 'Format -
Character' and instead a separate item one level higher up in the hierarchy,
viz. in the 'Format' menu. Call it 'Hide text' or something like this.

Moreover: In my version of LO (7.0.3.1), the window in which you format a
paragraph looks differently if you choose 'Format - Paragraph' than if you
choose 'Styles - Paragraph Styles' and then modify the style of the paragraph
in question. This used not to be so, and to my mind, it is no enhancement. As
you say, it may be useful to set the font face of an entire paragraph without
having to mark ("select") the string of characters that it comprises.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 138658] UI: Confusing categorization of the 'Hidden' feature

2020-12-10 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=138658

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 138201] impossible to delete table after opening the report

2020-12-10 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=138201

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 136654] Next Style does not get triggered if there is Text after the cursor.

2020-12-10 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=136654

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 96968] Enhancement Request for a bookmark list in the file menu (Favorite documents)

2020-12-10 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=96968

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 136210] pdf creation from document

2020-12-10 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=136210

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 136182] LibreOffice does not properly convert -- to em-dash by default

2020-12-10 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=136182

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 135323] NB Tabbed: Remove or Hide the Extension Tab

2020-12-10 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=135323

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 135580] Remove Euro Converter Wizard from Wizard menu

2020-12-10 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=135580

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 135234] Spelling dialog in Writer hard to use with screen reader

2020-12-10 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=135234

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 130535] Export as PDF doesn't save last path used and uses the same path as current document

2020-12-10 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=130535

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 127348] Improve use of line dash definitions with rounded dots/dashes

2020-12-10 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=127348

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 97148] Allow user to insert several documents at once

2020-12-10 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=97148

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 92851] Editing: Index entries affect alphabetical index with concordance file's ability to find other search terms

2020-12-10 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=92851

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 89351] UI: Search bar lacks throbber

2020-12-10 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=89351

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 82438] No synchronization between color attributes in the toolbar and sidebar

2020-12-10 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=82438

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 138748] Replace number format "Language" with "Locale"

2020-12-10 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 138750] Add option to make paragraph border color same as paragraph default font color

2020-12-10 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=138750

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 138127] Border control in property dialogs use black color even on dark theme

2020-12-10 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=138127

--- Comment #3 from Commit Notification 
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Heiko Tietze committed a patch related to this issue.
It has been pushed to "libreoffice-7-1":

https://git.libreoffice.org/core/commit/f527846ab9a67387909d225aaeb77301d2b48d5a

Resolves tdf#138127 - Use document color for border widget

It will be available in 7.1.0.0.beta2.

The patch should be included in the daily builds available at
https://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/ in the next 24-48 hours. More
information about daily builds can be found at:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Testing_Daily_Builds

Affected users are encouraged to test the fix and report feedback.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 138127] Border control in property dialogs use black color even on dark theme

2020-12-10 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=138127

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 138621] three improvements in File > Templates and associated .uno commands

2020-12-10 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=138621

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--- Comment #2 from Heiko Tietze  ---
We discussed the idea in the design meeting.

1) No clear preference for renaming from Open into Edit. (Weak) argument to
keep Open is that this template has not been integrated into the manager.
In officecfg/registry/data/org/openoffice/Office/UI/GenericCommands.xcu
find  
and change the label

2) Bring back the icons (no need to hide in submenus)
In sw/uiconfig/swriter/menubar/menubar.xml
find  and
drop menu:style="text" from the three commands below

3) Hide the .uno:TemplateManager from customization
In sfx2/sdi/sfx.sdi
find SfxVoidItem TemplateManager SID_TEMPLATE_MANAGER
and set *Config to FALSE

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