[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 139512] Insert table in Impress insert a huge table (cell size). It's was more decently proportioned in the past

2021-01-14 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=139512

Telesto  changed:

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   Keywords||needsUXEval
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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 139617] Word wrap isn't applied when shrinking cell (nor after entering the cell)

2021-01-14 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=139617

--- Comment #1 from Telesto  ---
Created attachment 168886
  --> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=168886=edit
Example file

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 139617] Word wrap isn't applied when shrinking cell (nor after entering the cell)

2021-01-14 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=139617

Telesto  changed:

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 139606] On Writer's standard TB and Insert menu: replace current "Text Box" a draw shape (.uno:DrawText) with the interactive frame with column (.uno:InsertFrameInteract)

2021-01-14 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=139606

V Stuart Foote  changed:

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 CC||momonas...@gmail.com

--- Comment #5 from V Stuart Foote  ---
(In reply to Regina Henschel from comment #4)

> 1. The command .uno:InsertFrameInteract as icon in a toolbar does not
> provide a single-click functionality. Instead you have to open a drop-down
> list and select the number of columns. That is different from menu, where
> you can immediately drag-create the frame.

Noticed that, on TB the current control would need a split button with default
1-column frame with column, and drop list for the dialog for more columns--like
we did with the Save button.  Also, might need an icon rework. 

@Maxim, what is your take on this, and emphasizing 'Frame with column' over a
'draw shape' text object?

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 139606] On Writer's standard TB and Insert menu: replace current "Text Box" a draw shape (.uno:DrawText) with the interactive frame with column (.uno:InsertFrameInteract)

2021-01-14 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=139606

Regina Henschel  changed:

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 CC||rb.hensc...@t-online.de

--- Comment #4 from Regina Henschel  ---
I like the idea to have an icon in the standard toolbar for what now needs menu
Insert > Frame > Frame Interactively.
If you currently try to add a frame command to a toolbar, you get these
problems:
1. The command .uno:InsertFrameInteract as icon in a toolbar does not provide a
single-click functionality. Instead you have to open a drop-down list and
select the number of columns. That is different from menu, where you can
immediately drag-create the frame.
2. The command .uno:InsertFrameInteractNoColumns, which I had thought would
give a single-click functionality, does not work at all.

And I like the idea to have the shape text-box (command .uno:DrawText) (and
perhaps the other missing shape types too?) available via menu Insert > Shape.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 139606] On Writer's standard TB and Insert menu: replace current "Text Box" a draw shape (.uno:DrawText) with the interactive frame with column (.uno:InsertFrameInteract)

2021-01-14 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=139606

V Stuart Foote  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

Summary|On Writer's standard TB |On Writer's standard TB and
   |replace current "Text Box"  |Insert menu: replace
   |a draw shape|current "Text Box" a draw
   |(.uno:DrawText) with the|shape (.uno:DrawText) with
   |interactive frame with  |the interactive frame with
   |column  |column
   |(.uno:InsertFrameInteract)  |(.uno:InsertFrameInteract)
   |control |control

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 139606] On Writer's standard TB replace current "Text Box" a draw shape (.uno:DrawText) with the interactive frame with column (.uno:InsertFrameInteract) control

2021-01-14 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=139606

--- Comment #3 from V Stuart Foote  ---
Well sure, the menu change would be part-n-parcel to the TB change.

Replacing the Insert -> Text Box (now .uno:DrawText) with "Text Frame" (to use
a frame with column .uno:InsertFrameInteract).

The "Text Box" (.uno:DrawText) could shift to the Insert -> Shape

The complexity comes with all existing documents, extensions, documentation,
and user work flows for Writer that have been DrawText focused.

The TB and Menu changes are easy, the cultural changes not so much.

Is it a good idea and better UX--probably.  Should it be done--I don't know.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 135508] Relative linked text sections should automatically read on document opening

2021-01-14 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=135508

--- Comment #9 from Caolán McNamara  ---
https://www.libreoffice.org/about-us/security/advisories/CVE-2017-3157/
https://www.libreoffice.org/about-us/security/advisories/CVE-2015-4551/
https://www.libreoffice.org/about-us/security/advisories/CVE-2014-3575/

are three historical cases where we issued advisories that there existed cases
where documents/links/previews were updated without a warning and we changed
things so that wouldn't happen for what that's worth. The advisory arguments,
for the normal desktop user case, mostly center around a attacker sending
someone a document with a hidden section containing a link to a plausible
location in the attacked users file system and convincing them to send it back
to the attacker.

IIRC its possible to use tools, options, macro security and "trusted sources"
to designate a dir as a "trusted file location" which I think has an effect on
this.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 139606] On Writer's standard TB replace current "Text Box" a draw shape (.uno:DrawText) with the interactive frame with column (.uno:InsertFrameInteract) control

2021-01-14 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=139606

--- Comment #2 from Telesto  ---
(In reply to V Stuart Foote from comment #1)
> So would use Interactive Frame with a Column (.uno:InsertFrameInteract) vs.
> current Text Box (.uno:DrawText)

Confused me. What I have/had in mind doesn't require lots of changes.. At least
nothing substantial.. so where surely not on the same page..

In intended to say: Create an new entry in "Insert" called 'Textbox Frame".
Which would trigger the same .uno link as Insert -> Frame -> Interactive frame. 
And move the 'insert textbox (.uno:DrawText) to Insert -> Shape

Frames are already handled by import/export filters. So not proposing something
new.. And Textbox shapes are converted to frames already on DOCX/DOC
export/import. 

It's in fact only shuffling around menu entry's and some renaming.

There are obviously some more area's where this needs to happen (toolbar). But
this is seen from the amount of work simply a "cosmetic" change. 

Documentation would obviously not appreciating this (in the sense of re-doing).
No clue if this would make explaining easier.

One objection is obviously using using 2 names for the same tool? (Textbox
frame = Interactive frame). But well textbox is currently a drawing object (so
in fact a shape without background). Same distinction would be Textbox frame
inserting without pre-set border. 

But now I'm ask myself what had Stuart in mind when read in my proposal? We are
apparently talking about something different?

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 102002] Redesign of the Load Styles dialog

2021-01-14 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=102002

sdc.bla...@youmail.dk changed:

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   Assignee|sdc.bla...@youmail.dk   |libreoffice-b...@lists.free
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--- Comment #18 from sdc.bla...@youmail.dk ---
Removing myself from Assigned (in relation to the OP), but will try to add
tooltips for the other checkboxes in the existing Load Styles dialog.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 139606] On Writer's standard TB replace current "Text Box" a draw shape (.uno:DrawText) with the interactive frame with column (.uno:InsertFrameInteract) control

2021-01-14 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=139606

V Stuart Foote  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

Summary|Writer's standard menu  |On Writer's standard TB
   |replace current Draw shape  |replace current "Text Box"
   |"Text Box" (.uno:DrawText)  |a draw shape
   |with an interactive frame   |(.uno:DrawText) with the
   |with column "Frame  |interactive frame with
   |Interactively"  |column
   |(.uno:InsertFrameInteract)  |(.uno:InsertFrameInteract)
   ||control

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 139606] Writer's standard menu replace current Draw shape "Text Box" (.uno:DrawText) with an interactive frame with column "Frame Interactively" (.uno:InsertFrameInteract)

2021-01-14 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=139606

V Stuart Foote  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

Summary|UI: "Replace" current   |Writer's standard menu
   |textbox (shape) for textbox |replace current Draw shape
   |frame   |"Text Box" (.uno:DrawText)
   ||with an interactive frame
   ||with column "Frame
   ||Interactively"
   ||(.uno:InsertFrameInteract)

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 139606] UI: "Replace" current textbox (shape) for textbox frame

2021-01-14 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=139606

V Stuart Foote  changed:

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 Blocks||103494

--- Comment #1 from V Stuart Foote  ---
So would use Interactive Frame with a Column (.uno:InsertFrameInteract) vs.
current Text Box (.uno:DrawText)

Would require a lot of import/export filter changes; and would have to consider
handling of existing documents.

Very disruptive and considerable work, not clear it is worth it.


Referenced Bugs:

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=103494
[Bug 103494] [META] Textbox bugs and enhancements
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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 139471] UI: LibreOffice main icon revamp

2021-01-14 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=139471

--- Comment #9 from V Stuart Foote  ---
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #7)

Heiko, per OP this was just about the "Document symbol" branding icon. 

Not really the individual module icons that may respond to theme, and which
could use refresh as well.


> ... (but I remember another ticket about the grey donkey ear image among
> the colorful macOS icons being quite ugly).

I think that was bug 96835

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 139109] Libre Writer - Tables - Column Width handling

2021-01-14 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=139109

Telesto  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Resolution|WONTFIX |---
 CC||vstuart.fo...@utsa.edu
 Status|RESOLVED|UNCONFIRMED

--- Comment #4 from Telesto  ---
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #2)
> It depends on the Alignment (first tab in the dialog). If you do not use
> Automatic but Left, for example, the column width is set as expected. See
> also https://help.libreoffice.org/7.2/en-US/text/swriter/01/05090100.html
> 
> Admittedly, the UI makes it not easy to understand.

This bug the cause for me to created bug 139096 bug 139098 bug 139370.
Switching to left as such doesn't fix it. You need to check adapt width also.

This is not end-user friendly. I call it even bad User Experience (UX). So UX
department should 'care' about this bit more.

Tables are commonly used. What the user wants isn't really uncommon. To way to
archive that is uncommon, and complex. Which probably not necessary, IMHO

So it make sense to improve this. I did few suggestion attempts(see closes see
also). Happy to go another direction.. but I think something should be done
here to make this better (obviously without breaking this for other use-cases)

So I still like a second opinion (Stuart). And I would even like a third (Baron
or Justin). Currently it's 2 against 1, IMHO. [Yes, there are cases where
you're vote counts for 2.. but would like to make an exception here. I see this
as too important]. I shut my mouth with clear 2:3 vote..

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 139592] Can't access a Draw shape's text box directly. First click selecting object, second click entering (different from interactive frame)

2021-01-14 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=139592

Telesto  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

   See Also||https://bugs.documentfounda
   ||tion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13
   ||9606

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 139606] UI: "Replace" current textbox (shape) for textbox frame

2021-01-14 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=139606

Telesto  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

   See Also||https://bugs.documentfounda
   ||tion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13
   ||9592,
   ||https://bugs.documentfounda
   ||tion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13
   ||9593,
   ||https://bugs.documentfounda
   ||tion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10
   ||7825
   Keywords||needsUXEval
 CC||libreoffice-ux-advise@lists
   ||.freedesktop.org,
   ||vstuart.fo...@utsa.edu

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 139271] Clear formatting alternative for character style

2021-01-14 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=139271

Telesto  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|UNCONFIRMED |RESOLVED
 Resolution|--- |DUPLICATE

--- Comment #6 from Telesto  ---
(In reply to sdc.blanco from comment #5)
Thanks for the answer & pointers.. think bug 88512 fits the bill

*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 88512 ***

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 139471] UI: LibreOffice main icon revamp

2021-01-14 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=139471

--- Comment #8 from Telesto  ---
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #7)
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Mimetype_Icons/Proposals

Most are applications icons, not the 'main' icon .. And not sure how much
change being allowed. It's the brand icon for LibreOffice. Marketing etc. 

As certain of those proposal contain whole 'doing it differently'. But well
there must be some middle ground to give the artwork gui's some direction,
without binding them to much.

In principle I like idea's flowing. So everything allowed.. But well there will
be a comparison made with current icon.. and the 'brand icon' topic will be
topic anyhow.

And less nice to let people spend time which ultimately won't make it (because
of things we could have mentioned before).

Most work in dark mode (or have an 'alternative for dark mode). It's brand
icon.. so also possible to use it on LibreOffice.org/
wiki.documentfoundation.org and so on

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 139471] UI: LibreOffice main icon revamp

2021-01-14 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=139471

Heiko Tietze  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Blocks||103184
   Severity|normal  |enhancement
 Ever confirmed|0   |1
 CC||kain...@gmail.com,
   ||psdasi...@yahoo.com,
   ||rivanfebrian...@gmail.com,
   ||rizald_...@yahoo.com
 Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEW

--- Comment #7 from Heiko Tietze  ---
This is in fact an ongoing discussion and I'm surprise that we don't had a
ticket yet. What comes close is bug 50278 requesting separate starters on macOS
(but I remember another ticket about the grey donkey ear image among the
colorful macOS icons being quite ugly).
We had (and still have) the discussion whether or not themed icons should
modify the branded MIME type icons, see bug 126074.
Someone send a proposal recently to the mailing list
https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/2020/msg00155.html but we
have many at
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Mimetype_Icons/Proposals. Some
really fancy ideas are also on Telegram: https://t.me/LibreOfficeDesign/37942,
https://t.me/LibreOfficeDesign/44966, https://t.me/LibreOfficeDesign/43200,
https://t.me/LibreOfficeDesign/40267, https://t.me/LibreOfficeDesign/40259, and
https://t.me/LibreOfficeDesign/37963


Referenced Bugs:

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=103184
[Bug 103184] [META] UI theming bugs and enhancements
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