[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 143308] LO Writer: refine custom dictionary installation

2021-07-19 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=143308

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 143308] LO Writer: refine custom dictionary installation

2021-07-19 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=143308

--- Comment #3 from QA Administrators  ---
[Automated Action] NeedInfo-To-Unconfirmed

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 142750] Text area loses focus when pressing the Format Painter button

2021-07-19 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=142750

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 142750] Text area loses focus when pressing the Format Painter button

2021-07-19 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=142750

--- Comment #5 from QA Administrators  ---
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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 143236] LibreOffice should provide dynamic smart guides on pages layouts

2021-07-19 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=143236

V Stuart Foote  changed:

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 Resolution|--- |DUPLICATE
 Status|UNCONFIRMED |RESOLVED
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--- Comment #5 from V Stuart Foote  ---


*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 100141 ***

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 142947] Groupedbar Compact UI : display a smaller arrow beside the popup textual menu title of each group or replace it by a character

2021-07-19 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=142947

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 142991] Groupedbar Compact UI : the textual menu of a group should be more distant than the icons

2021-07-19 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=142991

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 143236] LibreOffice should provide dynamic smart guides on pages layouts

2021-07-19 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=143236

Buovjaga  changed:

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--- Comment #4 from Buovjaga  ---
Bug 100141 and its See also reports propose related things

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 142750] Text area loses focus when pressing the Format Painter button

2021-07-19 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=142750

--- Comment #4 from Eyal Rozenberg  ---
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #3)
> Why would you want to copy the format into the same box?

Because the same box can contain a lot of content, e.g. multiple bullet points
on a slide; and I've done something to part of this content (e.g. made some
text have a different font, bold, and with wider spacing), which I now want to
do to another part.

> And it's also not a big deal to click into the text box. 

Oh, actually, it is a big deal. Not in terms of effort, but psychologically -
it's a big deal because the program is "working against the user": You were
already in the box, you were preparing to do something in the box, you were
expecting the box text to stay available, and then LO is giving you the finger
and un-focusing it - for absolutely no reason and with no justification! It is
quite frustrating.

(Also, sometimes it's difficult to get the focus to the box you want because of
box overlap and z-ordering, and then it's even more of a big deal.)

> Remember that double-click on the
> format painter button activates the sticky mode allowing to paste the format
> on multiple targets until you press escape.

Well, this would only be relevant if I wanted to apply the same format to many
targets; and the first time I press it I would still experience this issue.
(And it goes without saying that one-off use of the format painter is at least,
and actually more, popular than double-click use of it.)

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 143048] Autofilter dropdown window width is not enough and not resizable

2021-07-19 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=143048

Buovjaga  changed:

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Summary|Autofilter dropdown window  |Autofilter dropdown window
   |width is not enugh and not  |width is not enough and not
   |resizable   |resizable
 CC||ilmari.lauhakangas@libreoff
   ||ice.org,
   ||libreoffice-ux-advise@lists
   ||.freedesktop.org
   Keywords||needsUXEval
 Whiteboard| QA:needsComment|

--- Comment #1 from Buovjaga  ---
You did not provide your Help - About version info. For me, your test data is
not truncated.

Let's ask UX about resizability.

NixOS
Version: 7.3.0.0.alpha0+ / LibreOffice Community
Build ID: b1df9c67349cf4cc5be4128d797aefb87f50e38f
CPU threads: 16; OS: Linux 5.13; UI render: default; VCL: x11
Locale: fi-FI (fi_FI.UTF-8); UI: en-US
Calc: threaded

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 143308] LO Writer: refine custom dictionary installation

2021-07-19 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=143308

--- Comment #2 from Christian Lehmann  ---
If I may briefly intervene:

No.

1) The use of a language in a document is independent of the language of the LO
user interface. This must be so, otherwise a user could never compose documents
in different languages.

2) The use of a 'user-defined' dictionary of a particular language does indeed
seem to depend on the prior installation of the corresponding LO language
module. Otherwise Writer appears to ignore the availability of a user-defined
dictionary of the same language. However, this would not seem to be an obstacle
to my proposal. Before composing his own custom dictionary of a language, the
user will typically install the appropriate LO language module.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 143066] TOC: Give option to switch off spell checking for table of contents

2021-07-19 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=143066

Heiko Tietze  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

   Keywords|needsUXEval |
 CC|libreoffice-ux-advise@lists |heiko.tietze@documentfounda
   |.freedesktop.org|tion.org
 Ever confirmed|0   |1
   Assignee|libreoffice-b...@lists.free |heiko.tietze@documentfounda
   |desktop.org |tion.org
 Status|UNCONFIRMED |ASSIGNED

--- Comment #3 from Heiko Tietze  ---
Since changing the content of fields is not possible neither ignoring the words
in the document has an effect on the ToC, I agree with the request and would
change the language for all "Index" styles to "None". This setting applies to
all subordinated styles.

Patch at https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/119222

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 140643] After increasing font size, selection is lost and sidebar changes

2021-07-19 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=140643

Heiko Tietze  changed:

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   Keywords|needsUXEval |
 CC|libreoffice-ux-advise@lists |heiko.tietze@documentfounda
   |.freedesktop.org|tion.org

--- Comment #2 from Heiko Tietze  ---
Not happening for me with 

Version: 7.3.0.0.alpha0+ / LibreOffice Community
Build ID: 0067c3bd377bea366cd61cc06bba3b8d521401d4
CPU threads: 8; OS: Linux 5.12; UI render: default; VCL: kf5 (cairo+xcb)
Locale: de-DE (en_US.UTF-8); UI: en-US
Calc: threaded

and 

Version: 7.0.6.2
Build ID: 00(Build:2)
CPU threads: 8; OS: Linux 5.12; UI render: default; VCL: kf5
Locale: de-DE (en_US.UTF-8); UI: en-US
7.0.6-3
Calc: threaded

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 143286] Spelling - No "Back" button

2021-07-19 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=143286

Heiko Tietze  changed:

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 Status|UNCONFIRMED |RESOLVED
 Resolution|--- |DUPLICATE

--- Comment #2 from Heiko Tietze  ---


*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 135904 ***

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 143254] "Greek Upper Letter" numbering style should be named "Greek Upper Numeral"

2021-07-19 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=143254

Heiko Tietze  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

  Component|Writer  |UI
 Ever confirmed|0   |1
 Blocks||103364
 Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEW
 CC|libreoffice-ux-advise@lists |heiko.tietze@documentfounda
   |.freedesktop.org|tion.org
   Keywords|needsUXEval |difficultyBeginner,
   ||easyHack, skillDesign,
   ||topicDesign

--- Comment #1 from Heiko Tietze  ---
I wonder if these need to be implemented as numerals.

But if so, the strings are defined in svx/inc/numberingtype.hrc.


Referenced Bugs:

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=103364
[Bug 103364] [META] Bullet and numbering dialog bugs and enhancements
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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 143408] Create a function to generate random strings with options to only include various sets

2021-07-19 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=143408

Heiko Tietze  changed:

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 Resolution|--- |WONTFIX
 Status|UNCONFIRMED |RESOLVED

--- Comment #5 from Heiko Tietze  ---
You resolved the (unclear) use case yourself with comment 2. Calc functions
provide everything to generate a random string. Besides, if there is no general
use case such a feature would indeed better realized per extension.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 143411] Bug: The open-ended arrow style does not create a proper arrowhead; especially when the line is thick

2021-07-19 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=143411

Heiko Tietze  changed:

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 Ever confirmed|0   |1
 CC||rb.hensc...@t-online.de
 Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEEDINFO

--- Comment #3 from Heiko Tietze  ---
(In reply to NarayanAras from comment #0)
> 3.Set an open arrowhead

You mean the "Line Short" arrow. And you expect the line width of the arrow to
follow what is defined for the line itself. Sounds reasonable to me. What do
you think, Regina? 

And we should make this a duplicate of bug 126823, the disconnected look should
solved if the line widths match.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 143308] LO Writer: refine custom dictionary installation

2021-07-19 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=143308

Heiko Tietze  changed:

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 CC||cl...@documentfoundation.or
   ||g
 Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEEDINFO
 Ever confirmed|0   |1

--- Comment #1 from Heiko Tietze  ---
Wouldn't this require multiple installation packages, one for each language?
Quite an effort not only for the package manager but also when you download the
application. Cloph, what do you think?

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 143302] Detect switches between dark and light GTK themes and automatically switch to the corresponding icon set when available

2021-07-19 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=143302

Heiko Tietze  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEW
   See Also||https://bugs.documentfounda
   ||tion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12
   ||7138
 Ever confirmed|0   |1
   Keywords|needsUXEval |needsDevAdvice
 CC|libreoffice-ux-advise@lists |heiko.tietze@documentfounda
   |.freedesktop.org|tion.org
 Blocks||103184

--- Comment #1 from Heiko Tietze  ---
Yes, it's desirable. But can we detect whether the OS runs a dark or bright
theme? Haven't looked into bug 127138 but it seems to be solved for Qt-based
systems.


Referenced Bugs:

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=103184
[Bug 103184] [META] UI theming bugs and enhancements
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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 142990] Groupedbar Compact UI : "insert" group is missing calculated fields

2021-07-19 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=142990

Heiko Tietze  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Ever confirmed|0   |1
 Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEEDINFO
 CC||kain...@gmail.com

--- Comment #3 from Heiko Tietze  ---
Andreas, what's your take on this?

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 142989] Groupedbar Compact UI : the "view" group is hidden when the cursor is into a table

2021-07-19 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=142989

Heiko Tietze  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Ever confirmed|0   |1
 CC||kain...@gmail.com
 Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEEDINFO

--- Comment #4 from Heiko Tietze  ---
Groupedbar is Andreas' field of expertise. Given the guideline "The maximum
width of the content is 1440px using small icons and English localization."
from https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Guidelines/ToolBar I believe
there is just no space for more.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 142989] Groupedbar Compact UI : the "view" group is hidden when the cursor is into a table

2021-07-19 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=142989

Buovjaga  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

   Keywords||needsUXEval
 CC||libreoffice-ux-advise@lists
   ||.freedesktop.org

--- Comment #3 from Buovjaga  ---
Might be intentional as the context changes, asking UX

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 142990] Groupedbar Compact UI : "insert" group is missing calculated fields

2021-07-19 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=142990

Buovjaga  changed:

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 143374] EDITING Feature Request: Hide/Show Ruler Guide Lines Hotkey

2021-07-19 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=143374

Heiko Tietze  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|UNCONFIRMED |RESOLVED
 Resolution|--- |WONTFIX

--- Comment #7 from Heiko Tietze  ---
Obviously we are talking about different helplines. Me about the sticky
helpline that you pull off the rulers (not immediately shown on toggle on), you
when moving an object (only shown on move). 

And the OP requests a shortcut, which is a different topic. The feature is
clearly an option that you enable once per session, at max. It's nothing that
every couple of minutes need to be activated. A shortcut is therefore not
required by average users. We have a very prominent toolbar icon and
customization of shortcuts is pretty simple. So I concur with Stuart's verdict.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 143349] Easy way to allow to protect individual cells

2021-07-19 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=143349

--- Comment #4 from bugs.documentfoundation-sa...@balkonien.org ---
Okay.

I didn't know how this is handled internally.

If this is the same way Excel handles this, maybe it's a good idea to stick
with the current behaviour.

Introducing another flag would be confusing, I guess.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 142750] Text area loses focus when pressing the Format Painter button

2021-07-19 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=142750

Heiko Tietze  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Ever confirmed|0   |1
 Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEEDINFO

--- Comment #3 from Heiko Tietze  ---
Why would you want to copy the format into the same box? And it's also not a
big deal to click into the text box. Remember that double-click on the format
painter button activates the sticky mode allowing to paste the format on
multiple targets until you press escape.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 143302] Detect switches between dark and light GTK themes and automatically switch to the corresponding icon set when available

2021-07-19 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=143302

Buovjaga  changed:

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 143308] LO Writer: refine custom dictionary installation

2021-07-19 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=143308

Buovjaga  changed:

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 143349] Easy way to allow to protect individual cells

2021-07-19 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=143349

Roman Kuznetsov <79045_79...@mail.ru> changed:

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--- Comment #3 from Roman Kuznetsov <79045_79...@mail.ru> ---
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #2)
> Since MSO Excel has the same workflow we better not change this typical
> behavior. But is it possible to introduce another flag on cell level, let's
> call it "Editable", that can be used to block accidental input? Of course
> only if the sheet is not protected and to separate from this _protection_
> without any password.

And we'll lose an interoperability with MSO and other spreadsheet software

-1 to the idea

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 143349] Easy way to allow to protect individual cells

2021-07-19 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=143349

--- Comment #2 from Heiko Tietze  ---
Since MSO Excel has the same workflow we better not change this typical
behavior. But is it possible to introduce another flag on cell level, let's
call it "Editable", that can be used to block accidental input? Of course only
if the sheet is not protected and to separate from this _protection_ without
any password.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 143349] Easy way to allow to protect individual cells

2021-07-19 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=143349

Heiko Tietze  changed:

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--- Comment #1 from Heiko Tietze  ---
Currently all cells are protected which becomes effective when the sheet
protection is activated (including all options and passwords). If we turn this
workflow around and make all cells unprotected and switch the sheet protection
on if one or more cells are made protected this particular use case becomes
easier. But you may run into problems if all the unprotected cells are made
protected later not remembering what password has been set, for example. What's
your take Timur, Eike?

See also bug 58873 or bug 60350.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 143249] UI: Improve handling of configuring table borders in table properties dialog (to make it work for multiple workflows)

2021-07-19 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=143249

--- Comment #29 from Mike Kaganski  ---
(In reply to Telesto from comment #28)
> It should be possible to put everything which isn't the same in tri-state
> mode.

This makes it complicated even further. Having a selection with different
applied properties gives no advantage, only another state that user needs to be
aware of. Also it destroys a "define then apply by selection" workflow, because
every selection act would simply create such a heterogenous selection set; and
only "select then define" workflow would be possible, with resetting individual
controls from "undefined" to some value; and when user decides to add one more
border to the set, every setting needs re-definition again.

> Another topic which comes to mind: resetting all borders back to default.

The *potential* (only needed when we implement true table borders) "reset to
default" is easily implemented by the fourth radio button/drop-down: "reset to
default" in addition to "none/visible/unchanged" mentioned in comment 26.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 143249] UI: Improve handling of configuring table borders in table properties dialog (to make it work for multiple workflows)

2021-07-19 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=143249

--- Comment #28 from Telesto  ---
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #27)
> IMHO, we complicate the workflow with the (IMO) rare use > case of 
> multi-selection.

Two different statements in sentence :-). Multi-selection is complicated,
totally true. 

Rare case of multi-selection. Not sure if there is no desire or simply not
possible. Is surely sometimes desire to define the border width of all orders
(with different formatting applied). Especially if you have some pre-formatted
table (done by someone else or years ago) which does different border width for
one reason or the other).

It should be possible to put everything which isn't the same in tri-state mode.
(So border red, blue select means tri-state). This rather inherent to the type
of selection (which is visible in the preview). So not finding this really
unexpected result (but maybe biased me, tri-state is surely less common as
feature)

Again, this topic inherently complex. Surely not all wisdom here (or experience
with all the design principles) 

 

Another topic which comes to mind: resetting all borders back to default.
The current line arrangement present also mixes two properties
1. Choosing line arrangement
2. Resetting existing border styles

There are cases where you want to reset all borders to default (Default
template style). However you have to press Line arrangement for that. But this
can by accident also enable /disable borders too. Or visa versa. you select
select outer border line arrangement which disabled the inner (formatted
border) too.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 143430] Allow Endnotes to be co-opted as Footnotes if required

2021-07-19 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=143430

--- Comment #3 from R. Green  ---
Actually, in light of the enhancement suggestions in Bug 89352 and Bug 136554,
this request is probably redundant anyway.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 142940] Enabling pair kerning breaks rendering of many common fonts

2021-07-19 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=142940

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 142940] Enabling pair kerning breaks rendering of many common fonts

2021-07-19 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=142940

Heiko Tietze  changed:

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 Status|NEW |ASSIGNED
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--- Comment #8 from Heiko Tietze  ---
This was introduced with https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=16874. But
let's give it a try to disable this option by default
https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/119168

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 143349] Easy way to allow to protect individual cells

2021-07-19 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=143349

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 140544] FORMATTING: Writer paragraph styles "Letter" may be more efficiently grouped in a new hierarchy.

2021-07-19 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=140544

Heiko Tietze  changed:

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 143249] UI: Improve handling of configuring table borders in table properties dialog (to make it work for multiple workflows)

2021-07-19 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=143249

--- Comment #27 from Heiko Tietze  ---
(In reply to Telesto from comment #25)
> Loosing the ability to apply apply attributes to many positions at once is a
> no go for sure. Not 'doubtful' at all ;-)

This will always end up in confusion. Example: left border is blue, right is
red, and you select both - the color picker cannot show the current state
(correct UI solution is to have some indetermined state like known from
checkboxes, which is not perfectly clear to many users). 
The same for Mike's example with the 3rd state for Visible. If only one border
is taken into the current attributes you know for sure what attributes it has.
IMHO, we complicate the workflow with the (IMO) rare use case of
multi-selection.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 143419] Allow user to easily copy all properties from one (sidebar) Paragraph Style to another

2021-07-19 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=143419

Heiko Tietze  changed:

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 Status|UNCONFIRMED |RESOLVED
 Resolution|--- |WONTFIX

--- Comment #6 from Heiko Tietze  ---
You can move styles from one parent to another inheriting those attributes when
not overwritten. For example, 

Default PS > Heading > My Blue Heading (using blue font color): take "Heading
1" and move it under this node to make all H1 blue using the same uniquely
defined attributes such as font size.

And I 100% sign Dave's "keep it simple".

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 143249] UI: Improve handling of configuring table borders in table properties dialog (to make it work for multiple workflows)

2021-07-19 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=143249

--- Comment #26 from Mike Kaganski  ---
When we discussed the mockup from comment 15 on the call, in the beginning, we
indeed discussed some workflow change. But in the end, our discussion came to
this mockup, which intended to *not* change workflows, but instead to make the
actions more obvious and accessible.

Current (and proposed with the mockup) workflow focuses on one central idea: at
any point in time, all *selected* borders have the same set of properties
applied. This is not only difficult to change, but also is undesirable to
change. This also implies one important property: *both* orders of operations:
"select then configure" and "configure then select" result in the same set of
properties applied to the selection.

The border settings definition is necessarily complex, because we try to fake
"simple property  setter" for something that indeed is complex: multiple
separate objects (up to 8 individual borders, with several elementary
properties - color, width, style - for each). An alternative would be having
too many individual simple controls - and that would be even worse.

The proposal has the following advantages:
1. Introduce individual buttons to *select* individual borders (previously,
that was only possible by clicking on parts of the preview). This allows to
have *accessibility*, as well as UX improvement by hinting people who don't
guess where and how to click on the preview.
2. Moving presets to an own panel, potentially allowing to define own presets.

The problems with the mockup:
1. The "visible" should be kind of radio button (or a drop-down), with these
options: none/visible/unchanged (to match current options). Visible means the
controls below enabled; other two modes mean controls below disabled.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 143430] Allow Endnotes to be co-opted as Footnotes if required

2021-07-19 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=143430

Timur  changed:

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 Status|UNCONFIRMED |RESOLVED
 Resolution|--- |DUPLICATE

--- Comment #2 from Timur  ---
As for Comment 0, I'd say duplicate.

*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 89352 ***

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 143249] UI: Improve handling of configuring table borders in table properties dialog (to make it work for multiple workflows)

2021-07-19 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=143249

--- Comment #25 from Telesto  ---
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #24)
> The question is rather if people can be convinced of changing the workflow
> and loosing the ability to apply attributes to many positions at once. Doubt
> this

Loosing the ability to apply apply attributes to many positions at once is a no
go for sure. Not 'doubtful' at all ;-)

The point is that don't see why how this should be a problem. at least in my
'model'. Which I attempted to described in comment 20/22. Except you possibly
one click extra being needed. To press the select all borders template. Prior
to application of border style. This could even be removed, however there might
be some negative side-effects).

The interactive dialog isn't necessary per se. It can also be written
description. Simply to clarify, and making sure the dialog isn't bound to much
by a certain workflow. 

-
Enabling/disabling borders must be untangled from selection. And you might need
border selection templates (selecting existing borders) and border enabling
templates (next to manual selection/enabling/disabling)

With issue - overlap cases where 'border selecting template' includes borders
which are disabled. Where my logic would go, what isn't there can't be
selected. 

But well you can also say, the template is selected, and border modified, it
should be applied to previously un-enabled border.

[And at this point the desire for undo comes to mind] Reset does reset all
changes.. Mostly you want to go one step back.  However this bit of an problem
with the overall design of dialogs. This type is undo rather specific (or maybe
it isn't)?

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 140544] FORMATTING: Writer paragraph styles "Letter" may be more efficiently grouped in a new hierarchy.

2021-07-19 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=140544

Buovjaga  changed:

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--- Comment #4 from Buovjaga  ---
Dieter: there is no style having literally "Letter" in their name. cpmonger was
just referring to the existing styles
"Addressee"
"Complimentary Close"
"Sender"
"Signature"

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 143249] UI: Improve handling of configuring table borders in table properties dialog (to make it work for multiple workflows)

2021-07-19 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=143249

--- Comment #24 from Heiko Tietze  ---
(In reply to Telesto from comment #23)
> Out of curiosity.. are there also tools to handle the interactional aspect
> of mockup.

There are tools that allow to expand a dropdown on click, eg. Axure. But this
can also be done with two static pages via Penpot. Haven't done it for this
dialog and it's never fully functional, for example responding to the color
picker, setting the preview correctly, providing the presets functionality etc.
requires code.

The question is rather if people can be convinced of changing the workflow and
loosing the ability to apply attributes to many positions at once. Doubt this.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 143430] Allow Endnotes to be co-opted as Footnotes if required

2021-07-19 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=143430

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