[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 145239] Customize footnote symbols

2022-05-27 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=145239

QA Administrators  changed:

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 145239] Customize footnote symbols

2022-05-27 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=145239

--- Comment #9 from QA Administrators  ---
[Automated Action] NeedInfo-To-Unconfirmed

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 149316] Clarify what a master slide is a master _for_

2022-05-27 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=149316

Regina Henschel  changed:

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   Keywords||needsUXEval
   Severity|normal  |enhancement
 CC||libreoffice-ux-advise@lists
   ||.freedesktop.org,
   ||rb.hensc...@t-online.de

--- Comment #1 from Regina Henschel  ---
I agree, it would be nice to have a list "This master slide is used for ...",
if you are in master view. The properties pane of the side bar has lot of place
for such a list if nothing is selected on the master slide.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 145239] Customize footnote symbols

2022-05-27 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=145239

--- Comment #8 from Walter Tuvell  ---
As for references, Google for "sequence of symbols used for footnotes". When I
did this just now, the first 4 hits showed 4 different sequences for the
"standard/suggested" (LO's hard-coded sequence matched Wikipedia's).

But note also my comment about "🞶=U+1F7B6 ≠ *=U+002A". When using "star" as a
footnote marker, you want to use "star," and not "asterisk." That's because
asterisk is ALREADY superscript, so when used as footnote marker it becomes
double-superscripted. Which is just plain wrong.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 142653] Contextual Single user interface shows no toolbar

2022-05-27 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=142653

--- Comment #10 from Maxim Monastirsky  ---
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #9)
> You never know what the future brings. Some comments favor the Contextual
> Single variant over the Single Toolbar (so Notebookbar is the better choice
> than the classic toolbar). But if we put effort in, for example, XML based
> NB rather than Glade your work might be lost.
I was asking more about a single line arrangement _in general_, regardless of
how it is implemented. Given that we want to reduce the number of available
UIs, it wasn't clear if such UIs will survive. On the other hand, regarding XML
vs Glade, I would guess that XML is safer, as it's also used by the standard
toolbars, which likely to stay.

> What is your take from the developers POV how to implement different UI
> variants and how to make it customizable for both user and
> developer/designer?
The key for extensions and customization support is to have a well structured
in-memory representation. But that's nearly impossible with a "freeform"
on-disk format like Glade, so it likely will need to be replaced. The new
format can be XML or JSON or whatever, it doesn't matter. We can even try to
enhance the current toolbar XML to reuse some code (not sure if that's
feasible).

But the hardest part IMHO is not the format but the correct behavior of the UI
control, i.e. context switching, collapsing, resizing, a11y etc. I have no
insights on that part.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 149288] Create an option to hide empty headings in the Navigator

2022-05-27 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=149288

Mike Kaganski  changed:

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 Status|UNCONFIRMED |RESOLVED
 Resolution|--- |WONTFIX

--- Comment #13 from Mike Kaganski  ---
That would be definitely *bad*. Navigator should help; that is not "hide what I
did wrong, since I want to keep doing that", but "help me doing that right
way". But even without that conceptual badness - you would immediately create
discrepancy between e.g. Navigator's outline, and ToC using the outline; why
does my Navigator show three chapters, and my ToC shows some empty chapters?
Why doesn't Navigator help me? Why ToC is buggy?...

WF.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 127294] Add more tips of the day (and make it module-specific eventually)

2022-05-27 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=127294

--- Comment #82 from Commit Notification 
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Seth Chaiklin committed a patch related to this issue.
It has been pushed to "master":

https://git.libreoffice.org/core/commit/74de217a52a15588e3fdf4059d62a384777c66db

tdf#127294 (related: tdf#147524) add ToD about Customize toolbars

It will be available in 7.4.0.

The patch should be included in the daily builds available at
https://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/ in the next 24-48 hours. More
information about daily builds can be found at:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Testing_Daily_Builds

Affected users are encouraged to test the fix and report feedback.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 149288] Create an option to hide empty headings in the Navigator

2022-05-27 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=149288

--- Comment #12 from Rafael Lima  ---
Created attachment 180428
  --> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=180428&action=edit
Navigation pane in Word does show empty headings

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 149288] Create an option to hide empty headings in the Navigator

2022-05-27 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=149288

--- Comment #11 from Rafael Lima  ---
(In reply to Timur from comment #8)
> No, MSO 2016 also shows empty lines after 4.2 in Navigation Page.

Hi Timur, indeed you're right. In MS Word all entries are expanded by default
so the empty entries ended up being at the bottom and I made the mistake of not
seeing them. When I collapsed them, I could see the empty headings in Word.

So I confirm that indeed MS Word shows these empty entries.

(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #9)
> So the screenshot from MSO is taken with an outdated version?

I am using an active Office 365 license at the university (desktop version),
which is supposed to be up-to-date.

In summary, I still think having an option to hide empty headings would help
those reading a document (instead of users editing it). But maybe this use case
may be too niche for it becoming a new feature in Writer.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 142653] Contextual Single user interface shows no toolbar

2022-05-27 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=142653

--- Comment #9 from Heiko Tietze  ---
(In reply to Maxim Monastirsky from comment #8)
> how can I be sure that my work won't be thrown to the trash after some time?

You never know what the future brings. Some comments favor the Contextual
Single variant over the Single Toolbar (so Notebookbar is the better choice
than the classic toolbar). But if we put effort in, for example, XML based NB
rather than Glade your work might be lost.

What is your take from the developers POV how to implement different UI
variants and how to make it customizable for both user and developer/designer?

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 135501] Change the default UI (summaries in comment 67, comment 89, comment 133)

2022-05-27 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=135501

Heiko Tietze  changed:

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Summary|Change the default UI (see  |Change the default UI
   |comment 67) |(summaries in comment 67,
   ||comment 89, comment 133)

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 135501] Change the default UI (see comment 67)

2022-05-27 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=135501

--- Comment #133 from Heiko Tietze  ---
I appreciate the passionate discussion. It shows how much interest and
dedication you _all_ have in the project.

To summarize, we more or less agree on the need to finalize the Notebookbar.
Stuart's task list in comment 110 could be a start to get developers' wisdom
into the discussion. Point is that we have a functionally pretty well-working
Standard UI and we should balance the effort for a Ribbon-like interface with
the benefit.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 149230] Create sketches for ajlittoz's vision of a UI promoting the use of styles

2022-05-27 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=149230

Heiko Tietze  changed:

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 CC|libreoffice-ux-advise@lists |heiko.tietze@documentfounda
   |.freedesktop.org|tion.org
   Keywords|difficultyInteresting,  |
   |easyHack, needsUXEval,  |
   |skillDesign |

--- Comment #13 from Heiko Tietze  ---
We discussed the topic in the design meeting (and I messed up with attributing
comments to persons). 

Most of the discussion has been done here and I suggest to make it a duplicate
of bug 117022 (or resolve WF). We could also aim for a new UI variant to more
easily switch from "Standard" to "Style focused" but comments in bug 135501
indicated that we have too many options right now.

Ultimately the ticket has no clear goal and is hard to decide.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 120269] The descriptions of Safe Mode options are misleading

2022-05-27 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=120269

Heiko Tietze  changed:

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   Keywords|needsUXEval |
 Whiteboard|target:6.3.0|
 CC|libreoffice-ux-advise@lists |heiko.tietze@documentfounda
   |.freedesktop.org|tion.org
   Severity|normal  |enhancement

--- Comment #19 from Heiko Tietze  ---
We discussed the mockup in the design meeting. From the minutes:

  + looks good (John) but
 + is there an autobackup to "restore last known working state"
 + what is "undo modifications" compared to restore?
 + too many options, maybe remove "reset state of extensions"
   + Apply button is unclear (comment by Roman)
 + restarts with the chosen settings- clear to me (John)
   + mutual dependency between user profile and extension (comment by Cor)
 + unclear which one; if clearing entire profile, for example, means to 
   also clear the extensions we could automatically check this option
   + separate bundled/shared aka user/application extensions (comment by
Samuel)
 + if needed we have to add an extra section/frame under Extension (which
would
   become "User Extension") with the same options for "Application
Extensions"
 + users are probably unaware of what extensions are bundled and what
uninstalling
   means; better to have one option for both (John)
   + "Backup user profile" and "Restore from file" unclear (Cor)
 + we could just allow to restore from last known configuration (and
consequently
   backup overwrites the one setting)
   + continue in save mode vs. apply unclear (Cor, Roman)
 + clear to me (John)
 + different naming welcome but better have tooltip explaining the function
   + some image(s) make the UI nicer

I think we can iron out the missing bits when the implementation is being done.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 145239] Customize footnote symbols

2022-05-27 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=145239

Heiko Tietze  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Ever confirmed|0   |1
 Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEEDINFO

--- Comment #7 from Heiko Tietze  ---
We discussed the topic in the design meeting.

While the user-defined string idea is easy to integrate into the UI it opens a
can of worms. There are alternatives for special demands, eg. you could
manually number the footnotes. Unless there is a clear need based on standards
the advice is to resolve as WF. So do you have any reference?

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 149242] "Left paragraph border" -> "Left of paragraph indent" and "Right paragraph border" -> "Right of paragraph indent"

2022-05-27 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=149242

Heiko Tietze  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

   Keywords|needsUXEval |
 CC|libreoffice-ux-advise@lists |heiko.tietze@documentfounda
   |.freedesktop.org|tion.org

--- Comment #10 from Heiko Tietze  ---
We discussed the idea in the design meeting.

The revised "Left of paragraph text area" conflicts somewhat with "Paragraph
area". And we are afraid of worsening the situation. The probably more correct
term "Left paragraph white-space" is hard to translate. Tooltips and a
descriptive help page might be the better solution.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 142821] Want option to see more effect info in the list of effects

2022-05-27 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=142821

Heiko Tietze  changed:

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 CC|libreoffice-ux-advise@lists |heiko.tietze@documentfounda
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   Keywords|needsUXEval |

--- Comment #10 from Heiko Tietze  ---
We discussed the proposal in the design meeting and think it is beneficial in
some situations and doesn't clutter too much. So more details in case of
Emphasis animations are welcome.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 149085] The "Protect" section on the Options tab of {Image, Frame, Object} Properties dialog should be on the "Type" tab

2022-05-27 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=149085

Heiko Tietze  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEW
 Ever confirmed|0   |1

--- Comment #3 from Heiko Tietze  ---
We need to shuffle controls around in order to make space for the protection
controls. The dialog must not grow much further in size.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 149304] Stylist does not show upper/lower case font effects

2022-05-27 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=149304

Heiko Tietze  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

   Severity|enhancement |normal
Summary|UI Navigator style preview  |Stylist does not show
   |does not show font effects  |upper/lower case font
   ||effects
 Blocks||103427
 Ever confirmed|0   |1
 Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEW
 CC|libreoffice-ux-advise@lists |heiko.tietze@documentfounda
   |.freedesktop.org|tion.org
  Component|UI  |Writer
   Keywords|needsUXEval |bibisectRequest

--- Comment #3 from Heiko Tietze  ---
Confirming with Version: 7.3.3.2 / LibreOffice Community
Build ID: 30(Build:2)
CPU threads: 8; OS: Linux 5.17; UI render: default; VCL: kf5 (cairo+xcb)
Locale: de-DE (en_US.UTF-8); UI: en-US
7.3.3-2
Calc: threaded

All font effects except the case are applied to the Stylist. Version 5.2 does
not have this option so I guess it was missed at the implementation. Bisecting
might help to find the patch.


Referenced Bugs:

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=103427
[Bug 103427] [META] Styles and Formatting sidebar deck and floating window
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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 89131] UI Control spin button for number of heading rows in dialog Insert Table is not working

2022-05-27 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=89131

--- Comment #13 from Commit Notification 
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Seth Chaiklin committed a patch related to this issue.
It has been pushed to "master":

https://git.libreoffice.org/help/commit/60d9df79df1071d5ad299464a4705abb237810ca

tdf#89131 add explanation about adding Heading rows to Insert - Table

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 89131] UI Control spin button for number of heading rows in dialog Insert Table is not working

2022-05-27 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=89131

Commit Notification  changed:

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 Whiteboard||target:7.4.0

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 149248] Feature request: Option to not hyphenate last word in a paragraph

2022-05-27 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=149248

--- Comment #21 from Heiko Tietze  ---
(In reply to László Németh from comment #20)
> My next plan to implement hyphenation zone, which is a Word/OOXML feature.

:thumbs-up:

The on/off solution for the last word seems a bit unflexible to me, I'd have
appreciated something like n words/lines. But thanks for the patch, fixes the
issue efficiently! Hope you enabled the option by default.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 149085] The "Protect" section on the Options tab of {Image, Frame, Object} Properties dialog should be on the "Type" tab

2022-05-27 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=149085

Dieter  changed:

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 CC||dgp-m...@gmx.de,
   ||libreoffice-ux-advise@lists
   ||.freedesktop.org
   Keywords||needsUXEval

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 89131] UI Control spin button for number of heading rows in dialog Insert Table is not working

2022-05-27 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=89131

Heiko Tietze  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 CC||caol...@redhat.com

--- Comment #12 from Heiko Tietze  ---
(In reply to sdc.blanco from comment #11)
> But maybe a tooltip on the spinbox would help, such as:  
> 
>Cannot be greater than number of rows - 1

Good idea. 

Besides, the usual feedback is a disabled up button (or down respectively) if
the limits are reached. Does not happen although done in the code with

m_xRepeatHeaderNF->set_max( nMax ); in sw/source/ui/table/instable.cxx

Works with gtk3 but not with gen/kf5. 

Caolan, anything we can do? All spinbuttons including those at the sidebar
don't become disabled in respect to min/max.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 149288] Create an option to hide empty headings in the Navigator

2022-05-27 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=149288

--- Comment #10 from Dieter  ---
(In reply to Rafael Lima from comment #7)
> Hi Roman, I know that this is a formatting error made by the author of the
> document.

I expect, that a program reveals formatting errors and doesn't hide them.

> Many MS Word users apply a Heading 1 style and then press Enter
> multiple times replicating the style and creating these empty entries.

If Timur is right and MS Word shows this formatting error, I hope, that a lot
of MS Word users will learn to avoid empty paragraphs with heading style.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 149288] Create an option to hide empty headings in the Navigator

2022-05-27 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=149288

Heiko Tietze  changed:

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 CC||mikekagan...@hotmail.com,
   ||rayk...@gmail.com

--- Comment #9 from Heiko Tietze  ---
(In reply to Timur from comment #4)
> ...2nd one that Headings have not Settings where one can filter. 

Don't get this.

(In reply to Timur from comment #8)
> No, MSO 2016 also shows empty lines after 4.2 in Navigation Page.

So the screenshot from MSO is taken with an outdated version?

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 149288] Create an option to hide empty headings in the Navigator

2022-05-27 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=149288

--- Comment #8 from Timur  ---
No, MSO 2016 also shows empty lines after 4.2 in Navigation Page.

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