[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 151430] Groupedbar Compact UI : missing "columns..." entry of the "format" menu of the menu bar

2023-03-01 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=151430

Heiko Tietze  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 CC|libreoffice-ux-advise@lists |heiko.tietze@documentfounda
   |.freedesktop.org|tion.org,
   ||mentoring@documentfoundatio
   ||n.org
 Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEW
   Keywords|needsUXEval |difficultyBeginner,
   ||easyHack, skillDesign,
   ||topicDesign
 Ever confirmed|0   |1
   Severity|normal  |enhancement

--- Comment #5 from Heiko Tietze  ---
We discussed the topic in the design meeting.

The columns seems to be relevant enough to be accessible via the primary UI. We
suggest to add it into the Insert menu.

Code pointer: 

sw/uiconfig/swriter/ui/notebookbar_groupedbar_compact.ui

Underneath  add a
similar child with the command .uno:PageColumnType

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 153334] Support/default to a non-white page background in Dark Mode

2023-03-01 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=153334

Heiko Tietze  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

   Severity|minor   |enhancement
   Keywords|needsUXEval |
 Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEW
 Ever confirmed|0   |1
 CC||c...@nouenoff.nl

--- Comment #17 from Heiko Tietze  ---
We discussed this topic in the design meeting.

The convincing argument to not resolve WF likewise bug 152184 is using the
night shift with the expectation that app colors (AC) follow.
The AC are a user-defined list filled from hard-coded values (some like
hyperlinks taken from the OS). Users can add schemes, modify colors, and delete
any. We cannot trust in the existence of any scheme and the proposal was to
remove AC in favor of hard-coded light and dark colors. (Nothing to say against
a customization in terms of personalization aka LibreOffice theme later.)

However, there are users who want to change the AC; the idea was to use the
shipped AC schemes despite the mentioned issues and just inform the user if
something is missing.

We could also separate the light/dark AC schemes, add an option to follow the
system color, and provide an option to use the user-defined AC. Wouldn't be a
simplification but an acceptable compromise.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 153727] Calc inputwin for formula bar using system font, too small for CJK input

2023-03-01 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=153727

Heiko Tietze  changed:

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   Hardware|x86-64 (AMD64)  |All
 OS|Windows (All)   |All
 CC|libreoffice-ux-advise@lists |c...@nouenoff.nl,
   |.freedesktop.org|heiko.tietze@documentfounda
   ||tion.org
   Keywords|needsUXEval |

--- Comment #20 from Heiko Tietze  ---
We discussed this topic in the design meeting.

a) some comments here are towards resolving as NAB
The UI should be kept clean; however, at least based on the number of requests
the desire is clear

b) add an option to tools > options > calc > view
This would be a simple solution but likely not usable as the needed font size
in the formula bar depends on cell content. Plus, it inflates the options
dialog further.

c) have some kind of interaction on the control, could be a drop down with a
couple of font sizes or some ctrl+wheel response specifically on the control
This possible solution was not prioritized as it would be hard to figure out.

d) follow the selected cell's font (maybe all attributes not just the size)
Needs some work to make it working reliable (multi-selection) but will always
end up in a jumping UI; was removed for bug 127066

e) follow the zoom factor on the sheet
Not necessarily what users expect; but would be a straight-forward solution,
easy to understand

f) show the content somewhere else (or in a tooltip)
Was not welcome as a good solution.


The question is what issue exactly should be resolved. Make more content
visible in the formula bar (the bar has an expander to show almost a novel) or
make it better readable. Please elaborate the issue.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 153727] Calc inputwin for formula bar using system font, too small for CJK input

2023-03-01 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=153727

Heiko Tietze  changed:

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 CC||de...@speakeasy.net

--- Comment #19 from Heiko Tietze  ---
*** Bug 88141 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 153561] Rename "Chapter -> Heading" and "E# -> H#" in Entries tab of Insert Table of Contents, Index, Bibliography dialog

2023-03-01 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=153561

Heiko Tietze  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

   Keywords|needsUXEval |
   Severity|normal  |enhancement
 CC|libreoffice-ux-advise@lists |c...@nouenoff.nl,
   |.freedesktop.org|heiko.tietze@documentfounda
   ||tion.org

--- Comment #13 from Heiko Tietze  ---
We discussed this topic in the design meeting.

If the modification is consistent for all type of indices the suggested label
H# instead of E# (and HI instead of CI) is welcome.

(In reply to Mike Kaganski from comment #11)
> The E corresponds to "Entries" tab name.
It's all about E# / Chapter No (now Heading No). I could live with Entry No
too.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 152189] styles list "new", plus "DUPLICATE" !

2023-03-01 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=152189

Dieter  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

   See Also||https://bugs.documentfounda
   ||tion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15
   ||3634

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 153634] Page styles: create new "duplicate" copy style

2023-03-01 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=153634

Dieter  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 CC||dgp-m...@gmx.de,
   ||libreoffice-ux-advise@lists
   ||.freedesktop.org
 Whiteboard| QA:needsComment|
 Blocks||108576
   Keywords||needsUXEval
   See Also||https://bugs.documentfounda
   ||tion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15
   ||2189
Summary|styles: create new  |Page styles: create new
   |"duplicate" copy style  |"duplicate" copy style

--- Comment #1 from Dieter  ---
Since LO doesn't know inherited page styles (feature request in bug 41316), the
method described in bug 152189 doesn't work. So we should rethink previous
decision - at least for page styles

cc: Design-Team


Referenced Bugs:

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=108576
[Bug 108576] [META] Writer page style bugs and enhancements
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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 152775] [Enhancement] Emphasize the entry the mouse pointer is over in the Writer Navigator content tree

2023-03-01 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=152775

Heiko Tietze  changed:

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   Keywords|needsUXEval |
   Severity|minor   |enhancement
 CC|libreoffice-ux-advise@lists |heiko.tietze@documentfounda
   |.freedesktop.org|tion.org

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 152775] [Enhancement] Emphasize the entry the mouse pointer is over in the Writer Navigator content tree

2023-03-01 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=152775

Heiko Tietze  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Ever confirmed|0   |1
 Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEEDINFO

--- Comment #11 from Heiko Tietze  ---
We discussed this topic in the design meeting (only the bold font weight).

First of all it is unclear if the weight changes on hover or on click.
Highlighting happens on both events.
But more relevant is the missing use case. What problem is resolved by this
special handling of tree nodes? Basically it's very clear what node is in
focus/hovered.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 153561] Rename "Chapter -> Heading" and "E# -> H#" in Entries tab of Insert Table of Contents, Index, Bibliography dialog

2023-03-01 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=153561

--- Comment #12 from Mike Kaganski  ---
And the already made change of the button [Chapter No.]->[Heading No.], and
tooltip (Chapter number->Heading number) would best be "Entry No." ("Entry
number") for consistency.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 153561] Rename "Chapter -> Heading" and "E# -> H#" in Entries tab of Insert Table of Contents, Index, Bibliography dialog

2023-03-01 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=153561

--- Comment #11 from Mike Kaganski  ---
I definitely dislike [E#]->[H#] change.

The E corresponds to "Entries" tab name. It corresponds to "Insert->Table of
Contents and Index->Index Entry" menu. It corresponds to [E] (and the relation
is unambiguous and natural: "first entry number, then entry text"). It is
neutral. The [E] is used in other types of the index (Alphabetical, Table of
Figures, ...), so should not be changed itself. The entry can also be created
from other types of paragraphs, which may not be headings, but contain
numbering.

Overall: indexes consist of entries. Introducing "heading" term here does
nothing good, but complicates and confuses things.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 152184] Dark Mode: Application Colors > Color Scheme should automatically follow System Settings > Appearance

2023-03-01 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=152184

--- Comment #15 from Sierk Bornemann  ---
FYI, just for info, maybe it might help to orientate and maybe follow the same
way, because it's not bad and has proved its worth:


Microsoft Support document: Dark Mode in Word – Word for Microsoft 365, Word
for Microsoft 365 for Mac, Word 2021
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/office/dark-mode-in-word-e17b79a3-762f-4280-a81c-a15a859a693a#ID0EDD=MacOS

Incl. what and how to change the settings to change/adjust the defaults.
Sidenote (see screenshots and text in the document): for example, among other
things: the default page background in dark mode is: a _dark_ page background,
not a white one per default.


Dark Mode in Word offers a dark color scheme for both the menu controls and the
document background. Dark Mode can help to reduce eye strain and also provides
a more modern feel to Word. The dark page background does not convey how your
document will print, or the default view your collaborators will see when they
open it.

…

Turn on Dark Mode

To turn on Dark Mode in the Word, you need to enable Dark Mode for Mac OS.

1. Go to Settings > General

2. In the Appearance options, select Dark

[Screenshot]

Alternatively, you can select Auto, which will switch between Light and Dark
modes based on your specified Night Shift schedule in MacOS.

[Screenshot]

3. To turn off Dark Mode, go to Word > Preferences > General > Personalize and
select Turn off Dark Mode 

[Screenshot]
inclusive this section:

Personalize
● Turn off Dark Mode
○ Dark mode has a dark page color
○ Dark mode has a white page color

…

Set the page background color

Once Dark Mode has been turned on, you can toggle between the dark and light
page background colors.

   1. In the ribbon, go to the View tab.

   2. Select Switch Modes to change the page background color. Word will
remember the state of this toggle for future Dark Mode sessions.

[Screenshot]


Disable the dark page background

You can disable the dark page background in Dark Mode and keep the page light.

Go to Word > Preferences > General > Personalize.

Select Dark Mode has a white page color.

[Screenshot]

Check the appearance

Regardless of your Dark Mode settings, your document will print with the light
mode page color. Also, your Dark Mode settings do not impact your
collaborators, and Word will respect individual view preferences. To preview
your document for printing and sharing, use the Switch Modes button to change
the page background to light.  

…



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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 152775] [Enhancement] Emphasize the entry the mouse pointer is over in the Writer Navigator content tree

2023-03-01 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=152775

Jim Raykowski  changed:

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   Severity|enhancement |minor

--- Comment #10 from Jim Raykowski  ---
The thought was that it might be useful to match the content brought to
attention on the visible canvas to the entry in the navigator content tree.

Possibly only have this behavior when the feature is active?

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 152775] [Enhancement] Emphasize the entry the mouse pointer is over in the Writer Navigator content tree

2023-03-01 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=152775

--- Comment #9 from Buovjaga  ---
(In reply to sdc.blanco from comment #3)
> I am assuming that nothing has changed from demo 1 and demo 2 -- but demo 2
> shows a new dimension -- of highlighting the relevant items in the document. 

A note as I did not notice this bit before: the highlighting in doc canvas is
already in 7.5: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleaseNotes/7.5#Writer Bug
152029

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 152775] [Enhancement] Emphasize the entry the mouse pointer is over in the Writer Navigator content tree

2023-03-01 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=152775

Cor Nouws  changed:

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--- Comment #8 from Cor Nouws  ---
(In reply to Buovjaga from comment #7)
> (In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #6)
> > Why should one do this?
> 
> Should or should one not do this is exactly what is being asked from UX team.
or the one coming up with the proposal...

That would help us to judge, I think :)

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 153901] Add support for comment tooltips on table cell content

2023-03-01 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=153901

V Stuart Foote  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

Summary|Add support for tooltips on |Add support for comment
   |table cells |tooltips on table cell
   ||content

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 153901] Add support for tooltips on table cells

2023-03-01 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=153901

V Stuart Foote  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Blocks||114019
 CC||libreoffice-ux-advise@lists
   ||.freedesktop.org,
   ||vsfo...@libreoffice.org
   Keywords||needsUXEval

--- Comment #1 from V Stuart Foote  ---
Distinct from Writer usage and formatting tooltips of bug 116297--this would be
commenting on a Writer Table cell. Not clear we can get there without major
rework of Table cell handling for Writer.

While present for the Calc UI, where an inserted comment will show as pop-up on
mouse over, a comment on Writer is not individually exposed via pop-up. They
are all exposed to an annexed Comments area of canvas, or they can be reviewed
via the Navigator.

So Comments serve a different purpose between the two document types--though I
expect the comment in a text document table cell could be handled the same as a
comment in a spreadsheet--the ODF can accommodate. Not clear a departure from
current UI presentation is merited.


Referenced Bugs:

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=114019
[Bug 114019] [META] Tooltip bugs and enhancements
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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 147219] Keyboard short cut to traverse over open modules

2023-03-01 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=147219

--- Comment #3 from Heiko Tietze  ---
(In reply to dlingard2002 from comment #2)
> Writer and Calc open documents are not tabbed

Exactly, they are stand-alone windows. And your OS shortcut to switch between
open windows is likely alt+tab. Overwriting system functions is dirty, but
admittedly beneficial in this case. So my proposal was to implement the feature
but not hard-code a short cut.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 153888] Very bad formatting when importing pdf

2023-03-01 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=153888

Heiko Tietze  changed:

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   Keywords|needsUXEval |
 CC|libreoffice-ux-advise@lists |heiko.tietze@documentfounda
   |.freedesktop.org|tion.org

--- Comment #12 from Heiko Tietze  ---
(In reply to V Stuart Foote from comment #11)
> @Heiko, please take this to ESC. Getting tired of rehashing resolved issues
> with Eyal and others regards the scope of our filter handling of PDFs
> source. We do what we can with what is an "un-editable" format. It is
> untenable for the project to suggest otherwise.

The developers don't care about naming it "un-editable" or "badly working". I
totally agree with your POV but that does not spare us from fixing import
issues. If reported in an actionable way, which is not the fact here. Something
like "word wrap not correctly applied" could work (to my knowledge we cannot
read the font from PDF and it will never be pixel-perfect aka not an editor;
PDF is a lossy format).

As for the UX I don't see what we could contribute.

@Eyal, please keep an open and friendly tone in comments.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 153888] Very bad formatting when importing pdf

2023-03-01 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=153888

V Stuart Foote  changed:

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 CC||libreoffice-ux-advise@lists
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   Keywords||needsUXEval

--- Comment #11 from V Stuart Foote  ---
@Heiko, please take this to ESC. Getting tired of rehashing resolved issues
with Eyal and others regards the scope of our filter handling of PDFs source.
We do what we can with what is an "un-editable" format. It is untenable for the
project to suggest otherwise.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 146922] Groupedbar Compact UI : share a few creation templates with the standard menu

2023-03-01 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=146922

Maxim Monastirsky  changed:

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 CC||momonas...@gmail.com

--- Comment #2 from Maxim Monastirsky  ---
(In reply to Jérôme from comment #0)
> For example, the comment #10 of the bug #142990 proposes to add a sub menu
> entry to the "insert" group that is identical to the "field" sub menu of the
> standard "insert" menu ?
> 
> In order to decrease the discrepancies between the 2 sub menus, could we
> possibly use the same template in order to create the 2 sub-menus ?
This is already the case. The "Field" submenu is defined in a separate xml file
at sw/uiconfig/swriter/popupmenu/insertfield.xml, and from there pulled to both
the main menu and the toolbar by .uno:InsertFieldCtrl. Moreover,
.uno:InsertFieldCtrl is already present in Groupedbar Compact but under the
"References" menu, so Bug 142990 appears to be WFM (unless we want to move it
to the insert menu, which might be more familiar to some users).

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 147219] Keyboard short cut to traverse over open modules

2023-03-01 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=147219

--- Comment #2 from dlingard2...@gmail.com ---
Yes, that's how CTRL+Tab works in a browser but in writer and calc open
documents are not tabbed - or have I missed something?

I'm no expert and there are so many options I may well have missed the chance
to have separate open documents as tabs. If so please forgive my igorance and
point me towards the answer.

Thanks for your help.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 146922] Groupedbar Compact UI : share a few creation templates with the standard menu

2023-03-01 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=146922

Heiko Tietze  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEEDINFO
 Ever confirmed|0   |1

--- Comment #1 from Heiko Tietze  ---
The notebookbar variants are based on ui files maintained via Glade. I don't
see how a kind of template could work. Or am I missing the point?

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 153509] Offer easy-to-invoke split screens with a minimally visible user interface in Writer, using already existing LO functionality

2023-03-01 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=153509

--- Comment #6 from Heiko Tietze  ---
(In reply to Stéphane Guillou (stragu) from comment #5)
> Thank for the reply.
> 
> My assumption is that the possible implementation of a split screen would
> allow both same-document and comparison views, which is why I thought that
> would cover your case.
> 
> In any case, I'm sure the UX/UI team has given the topic some thought in the
> past, so I am copying them here to see what they think.

There is bug 149374 (made a duplicate of 31481 as well). And I understand 31481
as exactly what is asked in #3, a split view for one single document (we have
this feature in Calc). See all the duplicates, for example bug 42428. Showing
two different files like one document separated by a splitter makes not much
sense.

Sidenote: Bug 37134 asks for a tabbed UI where switching between open documents
would be as easy as in browsers. Bug 101788 discusses "Split button for display
modes".

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 153880] Make Calc text hyperlinks stand out more

2023-03-01 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=153880

--- Comment #5 from Gabor Kelemen (allotropia)  ---
Created attachment 185663
  --> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=185663&action=edit
The example file under Windows - Dark theme

There is indeed a bit of difference in color under Windows depending on the
light/dark theme setting.

Still: I think adding automatic underlining here would be probably helpful.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 153880] Make Calc text hyperlinks stand out more

2023-03-01 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=153880

--- Comment #4 from Gabor Kelemen (allotropia)  ---
Created attachment 185662
  --> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=185662&action=edit
The example file under Windows - Light theme

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 147219] Keyboard short cut to traverse over open modules

2023-03-01 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=147219

Heiko Tietze  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

Summary|Feature request keyboard|Keyboard short cut to
   |short cut   |traverse over open modules
 Blocks||86899

--- Comment #1 from Heiko Tietze  ---
Ctrl+Tab usually traverses over tabs, like in any browser. Abusing this
shortcut for windows even from one application makes not much sense to me. But
since we have a list of open modules under the Windows entry I assume it's not
too difficult to add a UNO command that can be customized individually.
Opinions?


Referenced Bugs:

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=86899
[Bug 86899] [META] Requests for the addition of UNO commands
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