[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 155016] New feature: set the source/scope of AutoComplete search

2023-04-28 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=155016

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 155016] New feature: set the source/scope of AutoComplete search

2023-04-28 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=155016

--- Comment #4 from QA Administrators  ---
[Automated Action] NeedInfo-To-Unconfirmed

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 151330] Add option for Optimal row height to ignore hidden columns

2023-04-28 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=151330

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--- Comment #1 from Stéphane Guillou (stragu) 
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Thanks Timur, sounds sensible.
Same in OOo 3.3 and:

Version: 7.6.0.0.alpha0+ (X86_64) / LibreOffice Community
Build ID: 2e57755f72907e4bb604a8ba32edbd6c253ee57c
CPU threads: 8; OS: Linux 5.15; UI render: default; VCL: gtk3
Locale: en-AU (en_AU.UTF-8); UI: en-US
Calc: threaded

UX team, what would be the best UI for that?


Referenced Bugs:

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=108364
[Bug 108364] [META] Table/Row/Column/Cell management function bugs and
enhancements
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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 155016] New feature: set the source/scope of AutoComplete search

2023-04-28 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=155016

--- Comment #3 from Tylla  ---
Thank you guys for the prompt reply!

As Heiko already pointed out Validity is for a different workflow.

While the argument about the plenty of options is true and agreeable, the other
one about all the other spreadsheet tools is way weaker. A feature shouldn't be
considered on the base that some other software has it or not, but solely on
the base whether if it makes sense and if it is feasible or not.

<> :))) (actively trying not to offend anyone)


As about the repeating/reused data: I wrote the 4 member option list as a
logical expansion of my original need. Maybe I overshot the target a little
bit. Sorry!

So if I want to present my strict needs, that's about getting AutoComplete
results from the same column but different worksheet, so the two options would
be: "Current column of current sheet (default)"/"Current column of all sheets"

Btw in the past I had several times the need to use the other two options as
well, but I can't precisely recall those cases, so let's skip that for now. :)


Thank you for taking the time to think about my idea, maybe it takes root in
one-form-or-another.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 155044] Rename Format - Description menu item

2023-04-28 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=155044

V Stuart Foote  changed:

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--- Comment #7 from V Stuart Foote  ---
(In reply to Gabor Kelemen (allotropia) from comment #6)
> 
> I can not imagine that most of non-IT educated users (lawyer, public
> administration clerk, teacher, economist) know "alt text" from W3C or about
> the existence of W3C at all.
> 

And equally we could question why the Name..., and Description... widgets have
even made it onto the Format menu--and are not present by default on the
context menu for the objects supporting them. [1] The casual user has no
interest in preparing accessible documents and doesn't.  

But as a document authoring tool (providing ODF svg:title and svg:desc) we need
to encourage and facilitate accessible documents--hence the presence on the
Format menu and context menus active for objects.

And suggestions like bug 39558 (to prompt to add title and alt/longdesc
attributes) and bug 96355 (for a consistent Properties... dialog).

=-ref-=
[1] context menu cleanup of bug 81132 that resulted in bug 101193

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 154788] The default width of Calc columns should be a bit narrower

2023-04-28 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=154788

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--- Comment #26 from V Stuart Foote  ---
64 points = .89 in --or-- 2.260 cm

But I kind of doubt our STD_COL_WIDTH (of 64 pts) and STD_ROWHEIGHT_DIFF (of 23
pts) are being calculated the same way on Excel where UI works with character
units (default of 8.43 ch and 15 pt height).

Also, folks do realize that the "default" cell on MS Excel is formatted with 11
point Calibri, while in LibreOffice Calc we use 10 point Liberation Sans?

LO fits 11 at 10pt "12345678901" MS fits 8 at 11pt "12345678"

Compounded by the fact that few os/DE actually work at 100% scaling. Windows
for example defaults to 125% scaling on a Full HD 1920x1080px display--so it is
a moving target unless we move to a character "ch" based UI.

Point is a user can adjust their environment to match an Excel session when
working in OOXML, but for our ODF originated sheets there is no real point.

-1 for any change from current LO defaults pursuing interoperability. It would
not offer any real relief as we are unlikely to adopt a UI oriented to
character counts for Calc column widths.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 153847] Change label for .uno:InsertIndexesEntry and label and tooltip for .uno:IndexEntryDialog

2023-04-28 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=153847

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Referenced Bugs:

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=115596
[Bug 115596] [META] Labels of UNO commands bugs and enhancements
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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 154788] The default width of Calc columns should be a bit narrower

2023-04-28 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=154788

--- Comment #25 from Mike Kaganski  ---
(In reply to Eike Rathke from comment #22)
> Sane proportional fonts have monospaced digits.

... which is not what ady talked about - the phrase was that "the width for
digits is not the same as some *other set of characters*".

(In reply to Eyal Rozenberg from comment #23)
> Well, Times New Roman and its brother, Liberation Serif, are not part of
> that sane group... and that's the case also for Arial and Liberation Sans.

Huh? These fonts do have the same width for digits.

> I vaguely recall LO phasing them out in favor of Carlito and Caladea, but that
> doesn't seem to have happened very earnestly.

LO? TNR and friends are MS fonts, and Carlito at al are a metric-compatible
substitutes for a *different* set of MS fonts. LO is not in a position to phase
fonts out from users' documents, it can only provide descent substitutions
(which it does, both for older and for newer MS fonts).

[/OT]

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 154788] The default width of Calc columns should be a bit narrower

2023-04-28 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=154788

--- Comment #24 from Eike Rathke  ---
Liberation Sans digits appear perfectly monospaced in Writer and Calc.
Anyway, this is getting off-topic.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 154788] The default width of Calc columns should be a bit narrower

2023-04-28 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=154788

--- Comment #23 from Eyal Rozenberg  ---
(In reply to Eike Rathke from comment #21)

So 54 points is nice and round. If we were to go with 0.8", it would be 55.6
points or 1112 twips. 

(In reply to Eike Rathke from comment #22)
> Sane proportional fonts have monospaced digits.

Well, Times New Roman and its brother, Liberation Serif, are not part of that
sane group... and that's the case also for Arial and Liberation Sans. I vaguely
recall LO phasing them out in favor of Carlito and Caladea, but that doesn't
seem to have happened very earnestly.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 154788] The default width of Calc columns should be a bit narrower

2023-04-28 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=154788

--- Comment #22 from Eike Rathke  ---
(In reply to ady from comment #17)
> Let's not forget that the default font is not mono-spaced (i.e. not
> fixed-width), so the width for digits is not the same as some other set of
> characters.
Sane proportional fonts have monospaced digits.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 154788] The default width of Calc columns should be a bit narrower

2023-04-28 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=154788

--- Comment #21 from Eike Rathke  ---
For understanding the values:

Measurement of cell widths is in typographical points (1/72 inch) and the
internal calculation is in twips (twentieth of an inch point, 1/20 point =
1/1440 inch)

The current value is 64 points or 1280 twips, which is 0.8" or 2.25775cm.

The proposed value would be 54 points or 1080 twips, which is 0.75" or 1.905cm.

The nearest value to 20mm would be 57 points or 1140 twips, which is 0.79166"
or 2.01081cm.

If we defined cell widths directly in twips instead we could get nearest to
20mm with 1134 twips, which is 0.7875" or 2.00025cm or 56.7 points. A rather
odd value for typography.. and quite likely provoking round-off errors in
layout.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 155044] Rename Format - Description menu item

2023-04-28 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=155044

--- Comment #6 from Gabor Kelemen (allotropia)  ---
(In reply to V Stuart Foote from comment #4)
> I would agree with Gabor, in standard technical English it should be
> "Accessible Description..."--but in reality the "alt text..." is well known
> from W3C "alt attribute" and "longdesc attribute"  alternative text
> practices and would be equally acceptable.

I can not imagine that most of non-IT educated users (lawyer, public
administration clerk, teacher, economist) know "alt text" from W3C or about the
existence of W3C at all.

In the Hungarian localization of Word they translated "Alt text" as
"Replacement text".
But that's just my bias.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 154788] The default width of Calc columns should be a bit narrower

2023-04-28 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=154788

--- Comment #20 from Roman Kuznetsov <79045_79...@mail.ru> ---
The "problem" has a very simple solution using default template customizing. I
still don't see any real reason to change the default cell size

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 154788] The default width of Calc columns should be a bit narrower

2023-04-28 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=154788

--- Comment #19 from Mike Kaganski  ---
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #18)
> Default of STD_COL_WIDTH is set to 64 twips in sc/inc/global.hxx.

No, to 64 *points* (point is 1/72 in) (and that value converts to twips for
internal use).

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 154788] The default width of Calc columns should be a bit narrower

2023-04-28 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=154788

--- Comment #18 from Heiko Tietze  ---
Default of STD_COL_WIDTH is set to 64 twips in sc/inc/global.hxx.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 154788] The default width of Calc columns should be a bit narrower

2023-04-28 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=154788

--- Comment #17 from ady  ---
(In reply to Rafael Lima from comment #12)
> I like the idea of 1.905 cm (0.75").

May I ask, why? Is it the amount of digits (9, without separators)? Is there
any non-subjective reasoning?

Let's not forget that the default font is not mono-spaced (i.e. not
fixed-width), so the width for digits is not the same as some other set of
characters.

Users with accounting requirements might like some default, whereas engineers
might prefer some other default width. The current calculation accuracy of 15
digits might sound ideal for some users to match the default width.


(In reply to Mike Kaganski from comment #15)
> Either we get per-locale default

That would result in users seeing different areas according to their locale,
which might make it unnecessarily more difficult to reproduce some behavior,
either between users sharing some document, or for some bug reports.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 154715] "Edit Fields" for cross-reference fields should open on the type, format, and selection of the inserted field

2023-04-28 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=154715

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--- Comment #5 from sdc.bla...@youmail.dk ---
(In reply to Buovjaga from comment #4)
> Just a note: I was looking at the type to be specific.
Will ask UXEval in relation to general issue.  Also, maybe this is an EasyHack

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 154788] The default width of Calc columns should be a bit narrower

2023-04-28 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=154788

--- Comment #16 from Eyal Rozenberg  ---
(In reply to Mike Kaganski from comment #15)
> Note that, in case there's a decision to go with a change, it is absolutely
> bad to make a global default in inches, which are used by minority of the
> population of the world.

I agree in principle. We don't use inches in Palestine/Israel. The thing is
that the current width is close to an inch, so it seemed more intuitive to
think about it in those terms. But 2cm, 1.9cm is also fine by me.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 150165] Visual Aids for Impress: make all objects' outlines visible while moving an object; always show non-printable table borders as in Writer

2023-04-28 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=150165

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--- Comment #6 from Heiko Tietze  ---
So let's do it.

(In reply to Regina Henschel from comment #5)
> If you have already accessed the object, it is too late.
Not if the main focus is on positioning.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 154788] The default width of Calc columns should be a bit narrower

2023-04-28 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #15 from Mike Kaganski  ---
Note that, in case there's a decision to go with a change, it is absolutely bad
to make a global default in inches, which are used by minority of the
population of the world.

Either we get per-locale default, or we create a *metric* global default
(noting that even where inches are used as a primary unit, metric system is
also usable and standardized).

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 154878] I added my own autocorrection and it requires an extra button press to change it

2023-04-28 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=154878

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--- Comment #2 from Heiko Tietze  ---
You can add it to the replacement table (mind the language above; it applied
only in this context) but all replacement text need a finishing space (for gtk3
see bug 140445), tab, or enter. Otherwise you cannot get the arrow (--> = →),
for instance.

What you want to achieve is implemented per autocorrect > options > replace
dashes, see
https://help.libreoffice.org/latest/en-US/text/shared/01/06040100.html.

Side note: In case of just a question you might get better and faster replies
at https://ask.libreoffice.org/.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 154788] The default width of Calc columns should be a bit narrower

2023-04-28 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #14 from Heiko Tietze  ---
https://fosstodon.org/@libodesign/110275158368343954

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