[Bug 95274] Wrong editing languages offered

2024-05-30 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=95274

--- Comment #69 from daniel.scha...@gmail.com ---
(In reply to Michael Bauer from comment #68)

> Can someone explain to me how in this scenario I force LO to 
> a) use a language that I cannot currently set (because it's not offering it
> to me)
> b) use a language I haven't recently used because LO never offers it
> c) doesn't suggest because it thinks Gaelic is Tibetan?

"More..." should get you what you crave.
The lists "For Paragraph" and "For All Languages" currently doesn't show
recently used languages. The list "For Selection" does offer recently used
languages ... sometimes (see bug 161344).

Although, "More..." should open a dedicated language selection dialogue. Right
now, "For Selection/Paragraph" opens the "Character" dialogue, while "For All
Text" opens the LO/Writer "Options" dialogue.
If "More..." would open a dedicated language selection list directly, we could
skip/scrap "recently used languages" too. Currently, we have to click
"More...", search for "Language", click on the language selection to expand the
language list, and then scroll to the language of choice in a list filled with
languages that aren't even available/installed ...

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[Bug 95274] Wrong editing languages offered

2024-05-30 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=95274

--- Comment #68 from Michael Bauer  ---
>=
>Language(s) used in current document/selection/paragraph:
>English (UK)
>☑ French (France)
>More ...
>-
>Recently used languages:
>Some Language
>Some other language
>Yet another language
>-
>Suggested for current paragraph:
>Norwegian (Bokmål)
>-
>None (Do not check spelling)
>-
>Reset to Default Language
>=

Can someone explain to me how in this scenario I force LO to 
a) use a language that I cannot currently set (because it's not offering it to
me)
b) use a language I haven't recently used because LO never offers it
c) doesn't suggest because it thinks Gaelic is Tibetan?

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[Bug 95274] Wrong editing languages offered

2024-05-30 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=95274

--- Comment #67 from daniel.scha...@gmail.com ---
The point of "recent languages" is that those would be languages the users
chose themselves (for the current document). But, I get that showing only
"languages currently in use" has its appeal too. Although ... since we are all
likely to use screens with higher resolutions than 800x600 px ... why not have
both, languages currently in use, and recently used languages?


=
Language(s) used in current document/selection/paragraph:
English (UK)
☑ French (France)
More ...
-
Recently used languages:
Some Language
Some other language
Yet another language
-
Suggested for current paragraph:
Norwegian (Bokmål)
-
None (Do not check spelling)
-
Reset to Default Language
=


I love that the language for the current selection is indicated by a check mark
and in the status bar. This should be extended to the language lists "For
Paragraph" and "For All Languages".

Regardless of what people prefer, recent languages with a check mark for the
current language, or only languages currently in use, we need consistency.

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[Bug 161082] Print dialog: Put initial focus to "Printer" combobox

2024-05-30 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=161082

--- Comment #4 from Justin L  ---
-1 that would be awful. Every time I print I set the printing options once, and
then print multiple times, changing only the number of pages to print (and the
range of pages to print). The number of copies to print is the most important
setting for me.

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[Bug 161223] basic HTML cell render

2024-05-30 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=161223

--- Comment #11 from Eike Rathke  ---
This should by no means go into the formula expression engine, a spreadsheet
function would be a wrong approach to render things.

Instead, a cell attribute could indicate that the cell content or formula
result is to be rendered taking HTML (or whatever) elements into account.

Bear in mind that would add _yet another_ formatting layer somewhere in between
or on top of

conditional formatting
hard cell attribution
cell styles

and possibly upcoming table styles that would go between cell styles and hard
cell attribution.

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[Bug 95274] Wrong editing languages offered

2024-05-30 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=95274

--- Comment #66 from Heiko Tietze  ---
>From the ESC meeting:

* there is nothing wrong with it (the library), it's just used at a wrong place
(Caolan)
  * it's given a single word
  * the lib works when it's given a longer piece of text
  * perhaps the menu should not do any kind of guessing, either
  * think this would nicely with multiple paragraphs of text

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[Bug 161029] Special Find presets with regular expression

2024-05-30 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=161029

Timur  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 CC||ti...@libreoffice.org
 Resolution|--- |DUPLICATE
 Status|UNCONFIRMED |RESOLVED

--- Comment #4 from Timur  ---
Seems dupe to me, if not please explain.

*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 38261 ***

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[Bug 95274] Wrong editing languages offered

2024-05-30 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=95274

--- Comment #65 from Michael Bauer  ---
What's the point of "recent languages" if you cannot actually set the language
to something sensible? It's a double bind. So I could set a section or the
document to Gaelic if LO thinks it's a language I recently used. But
unfortunately LO thinks I work with Welsh, Tibetan and goodness knows what
else. 

Whatever these clever features do or are supposed to do, can we PLEASE get
something implemented that allows a user to EASILY set the language for a
document or selection manually that OVERRIDES whatever LO *thinks* should be
the case?

We can play with anything else at leisure afterwards, but this issue has been
around for eons, the bug itself is 10 years old...

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[Bug 95274] Wrong editing languages offered

2024-05-30 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=95274

--- Comment #64 from daniel.scha...@gmail.com ---
It appears that the language list "For Selection" works in a different way than
the lists "For Paragraph" and "For All Text". (see
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=161344)

The list "For Selection" can be populated with up to seven recently used
languages, and the currently used language is indicated by a check mark.

The lists "For Paragraph" and "For All Text" seem to only show languages that
are actually used in the current document (except for when bug 161344 is
triggered, and with the addition of the language "detected" by libexttextcat).
Both lists have spacing for a check mark, but they don't use that feature.

It looks like the idea of "recent languages" with a check mark for the language
at the text cursor position was implemented only half way. I actually like the
list of recent languages, and the check mark is very helpful. But I could live
with the approach to just show "languages currently in use". Only the mixture
of both approaches is confusing.



I'd like to add that the language lists "For Selection" and "For Paragraph" are
absent in other LibrOffice applications like Calc and Impress. The language
list "For All Text" doesn't work either in these applications. I do only see my
LibreOffice default language in that list, even though the currently used
language is correctly shown in the status bar at the bottom.

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[Bug 95274] Wrong editing languages offered

2024-05-30 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=95274

--- Comment #63 from Caolán McNamara  ---
I think the original idea behind the libexttextcat usage was someone pastes a
paragraph of text into something and it could be used to set the likely
language for it. I don't think if ever was expected to work well with a few
words. Its presence in the drop down of languages is probably a bit of a red
herring and just gets it the blame.

Populating the list of suggested languages via some totally other mechanism of
languages used in the document and/or/+ n last languages used ever. And
offering "guess language" as a totally unrelated command, or submenu from the
other list, might help.

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[Bug 95274] Wrong editing languages offered

2024-05-30 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=95274

Heiko Tietze  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 CC||caolan.mcnamara@collabora.c
   ||om

--- Comment #62 from Heiko Tietze  ---
Caolan, what do you think?

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[Bug 95274] Wrong editing languages offered

2024-05-30 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=95274

--- Comment #61 from Michael Bauer  ---
I don't think libexttextcat is beyond repair but I have always been told off
for trying to tackle more than one (however connected) issue in one bug, so I'm
trying to stick to fixing just the bit that offers up the wrong languages.

But since you ask, I think libexttextcat could easily be made loads better by
restricting it's options i.e. at the moment, it tries for ALL the languages it
can potentially tag. And gets it spectacularly wrong. But if there was a way
for the user to say "I normally only handle docs in languages A, B and F" then
if libexttextcat was restricted to differentiating only those n languages, it
should work much better. I'm sure it would struggle to an extent with closely
related stuff like Bokmal and Nynorsk but would overall perform much better
nonetheless.

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[Bug 95274] Wrong editing languages offered

2024-05-30 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=95274

--- Comment #60 from Heiko Tietze  ---
(In reply to Michael Bauer from comment #59)
> >2.) Languages that the user has *explicitly* specified
> 
> I would welcome such an option but didn't think such a dialogue option would
> get much support.
This ultimately means to get rid of libexttextcat and to let the user decide
manually. Could imagine to have checkboxes with the Default Languages dropdowns
instead of the green check marks today. And if checked, you get this language
in the selection. The sorting order is another topic.

If we want to keep the check mark thingy, guess it becomes visible if the
language has a corresponding dictionary installed via extension, we may do so.
But I'd just drop that confusing mix of configurations.

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[Bug 161304] context menu "Delete ~Columns" deletion needlessly duplicates ~Cut mnemonic "C", allow auto assignment for the Columns entry

2024-05-30 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=161304

Heiko Tietze  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 CC|libreoffice-ux-advise@lists |heiko.tietze@documentfounda
   |.freedesktop.org|tion.org,
   ||mentoring@documentfoundatio
   ||n.org
   Keywords|needsUXEval |difficultyBeginner,
   ||easyHack, skillDesign,
   ||topicDesign

--- Comment #5 from Heiko Tietze  ---
(In reply to V Stuart Foote from comment #4)
> The key sequence is by column's context menu (right mouse) -> C, or   +
> S -> C via the sheet menu.
It is menu key (at least on my keyboard left of the right ctrl key) and 2x C.

> In this case, simply resolved by removing the "~" from the "Delete ~Columns...
Sounds okay but we should keep the ~Cut fix at the well established alt+C.

Ultimately still NAB but no objection to drop the mnemonic on ~Column.

officecfg/registry/data/org/openoffice/Office/UI/GenericCommands.xcu ->
.uno:DeleteColumns

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[Bug 160735] Change any style from a single window

2024-05-30 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=160735

--- Comment #11 from Heiko Tietze  ---
(In reply to gris...@zaclys.net from comment #9)
> This is exactly what I dreamed of! :)
Probably not. My idea extends the editing of _one_ style with the creation of a
children. I see no way to edit, for example, Text Body and to create a new
style under Heading.

I wonder if such thing is worth the trouble. Some implementation effort,
lowering for usability, documentation, etc.

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[Bug 157580] Allow notebookbar and groupedbarcompact groups sections to be shown/hidden based on available space instead of only their order

2024-05-30 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=157580

Heiko Tietze  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

   Keywords|needsUXEval |
 CC|libreoffice-ux-advise@lists |heiko.tietze@documentfounda
   |.freedesktop.org|tion.org
 Status|REOPENED|NEW

--- Comment #14 from Heiko Tietze  ---
Rather than introducing a complex calculation I would make the widget itself
resize on small screens / window sizes so it shrinks to only one style width.

Anyway, I think we can agree on the fact that a large unfilled are is odd.

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