[Bug 161075] Rename "Page Style..." to "Page..." on the Format menu

2024-05-15 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=161075

--- Comment #8 from Eyal Rozenberg  ---
(In reply to Cor Nouws from comment #7)
> You should have looked to what the menu entries do and noticed a difference
> in the dialogs titles...

Ah, but I shouldn't have to. It's the Format menu. You format pages (or page
sequences), you don't format styles - or at least, you don't expect to.

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[Bug 161075] Rename "Page Style..." to "Page..." on the Format menu

2024-05-15 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=161075

--- Comment #7 from Cor Nouws  ---
(In reply to Eyal Rozenberg from comment #0)
> * Character...
> * Paragraph...
> * Bullets and Numbering...
> * Page Style...
> 
> One of these does not fit the naming scheme of the rest. Which is it?
You should have looked to what the menu entries do and noticed a difference in
the dialogs titles...

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[Bug 161075] Rename "Page Style..." to "Page..." on the Format menu

2024-05-14 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=161075

--- Comment #6 from Eyal Rozenberg  ---
(In reply to V Stuart Foote from comment #5)
> -1

I closed this as NOTABUG... no need for the -1 now.

Anyway, please have a look at bug 161078.

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[Bug 161075] Rename "Page Style..." to "Page..." on the Format menu

2024-05-14 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=161075

--- Comment #5 from V Stuart Foote  ---
-1

This would be a reversal of what was done for see also bug 126008 [1] where we
renamed the Format -> "Page..." to Format -> "Page Style..." for adjusting the
style of page holding current paragraph--also repositioned it on the menu
removing it from the other DF dialogs.

IMHO no reason to revert, or UX confusion of bug 126008 returns. Though work
remains needed on bug 41316

=-ref-=
[1] https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/77148

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[Bug 161075] Rename "Page Style..." to "Page..." on the Format menu

2024-05-14 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=161075

Eyal Rozenberg  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|UNCONFIRMED |RESOLVED
 Resolution|--- |NOTABUG

--- Comment #4 from Eyal Rozenberg  ---
(In reply to nutka from comment #3)
> Created attachment 194121 [details]
> In version: 5.0.0.5, 6.3.6.2 and 6.4.0.1

Thanks, changed the minimum version.

(In reply to nutka from comment #2)
> See Bug 126608 (Writer: Looks as if switch Page to Portrait is impossible -
> Cause: "Format > Page" is not clear because it starts formatting the page
> Style).

Aw, man, I can't believe I've not noticed the behavior discussed there so far!
This is so mental!

Salient comment from that bug:

(In reply to Regina Henschel from comment #46)
> I think, one problem is, that the items 'Character', 'Paragraph' and 'Bullet
> and Numbering…' in that section of the Format menu perform a direct
> formatting which has no effect on other parts or the document. But the item
> 'Page…' there, does not perform a direct formatting at all and has often a
> document-wide effect.
> 
> I suggest to rename 'Page…' to 'Edit Page Style' and move it out of the
> Character-Paragraph section. Perhaps put it after 'Watermark', that has
> already 'Columns', which alters the page style too.

The naming is appropriate given the behavior. The behavior is the problem.

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[Bug 161075] Rename "Page Style..." to "Page..." on the Format menu

2024-05-14 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=161075

Eyal Rozenberg  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

Version|5.0.0.5 release |6.4.0.3 release
   See Also||https://bugs.documentfounda
   ||tion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12
   ||6608

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[Bug 161075] Rename "Page Style..." to "Page..." on the Format menu

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--- Comment #3 from nutka  ---
Created attachment 194121
  --> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=194121=edit
In version: 5.0.0.5, 6.3.6.2 and 6.4.0.1

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[Bug 161075] Rename "Page Style..." to "Page..." on the Format menu

2024-05-14 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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nutka  changed:

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--- Comment #2 from nutka  ---
I believe "Page Style" was introduced in 6.4.

See Bug 126608 (Writer: Looks as if switch Page to Portrait is impossible -
Cause: "Format > Page" is not clear because it starts formatting the page
Style).

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[Bug 161075] Rename "Page Style..." to "Page..." on the Format menu

2024-05-14 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #1 from Eyal Rozenberg  ---
Apparently, this is a regression, since sometime in 4.x the format menu still
had it right:

https://officeskills.org/apache-open-office-4-1-1-review/

and specifically:

https://officeskills.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/writer-format-menu.jpg

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[Bug 161075] Rename "Page Style..." to "Page..." on the Format menu

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Eyal Rozenberg  changed:

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Referenced Bugs:

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=85811
[Bug 85811] [META] Main menu bar bugs and enhancements
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=103304
[Bug 103304] [META] Page style dialog bugs and enhancements
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2024-05-14 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Eyal Rozenberg  changed:

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   Keywords||easyHack, needsUXEval
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