[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 154410] Improve Calc's Format > Align Text menu's contents and labels
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=154410 Heiko Tietze changed: What|Removed |Added CC|libreoffice-ux-advise@lists |heiko.tietze@documentfounda |.freedesktop.org|tion.org, ||momonas...@gmail.com Blocks|86899 |98259 Priority|low |medium Component|Calc|UI Ever confirmed|0 |1 Severity|enhancement |normal Keywords|needsUXEval | Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEW --- Comment #6 from Heiko Tietze --- We discussed the topic in the design meeting. The toolbar buttons work as expected and reverting a toggle state brings back the default alignment. The main menu, however, seems to be a toggle function too according the checked state but it's not possible to untoggle an option. We suggest to fix this issue rather than introducing a "Default", which would then be required on other options too. Referenced Bugs: https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=86899 [Bug 86899] [META] Requests for the addition of UNO commands https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=98259 [Bug 98259] [META] Keyboard shortcuts and accelerators bugs and enhancements -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.
[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 154410] Improve Calc's Format > Align Text menu's contents and labels
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=154410 --- Comment #5 from Heiko Tietze --- The alternative that needs to be discussed is the existing "clear DF" function. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.
[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 154410] Improve Calc's Format > Align Text menu's contents and labels
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=154410 --- Comment #4 from Stéphane Guillou (stragu) --- (In reply to ady from comment #1) > (In reply to Stéphane Guillou (stragu) from comment #0) > > alignment, which needs to be present to revert a change made from the menu > > (and be on par with the toolbar's de-activating of alignment options; > > I'm not sure I understand the need for that point. It's a design principle: "Provide access to all functions via the menu bar" https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Guidelines Obviously, this is not applied 100% to all functions, otherwise we would have overwhelmingly large menus. But we should absolutely make the default setting available in the menu. > Another possibility could be to have the menu entries work as the icons; > select once and the attribute is set (and the menu entry (icon) would look > "pressed"); select the "pressed" menu entry again and the "default" > alignment would be set. The menu entries and the icons in the toolbar(s) > would/should be in sync. That's true, but seeing Heiko's comment, I'd go with the extra option. (In reply to Eyal Rozenberg from comment #2) > (In reply to Stéphane Guillou (stragu) from comment #0) > > - its functions can be used for other things than text, for example shapes; > > Isn't it in the cell formatting dialog though? I'm talking about the menu, not the dialog. I guess it's a UNO command that has different effects depending of what is in the current selection. > > - "Format > Align Text" relabelled to "Alignment" because it doesn't just > > affect text. This matches the tab title in the Format Cells dialog. > > What else does it affect? In the other bug, you mentioned "numbers", but > numbers are also text. I affects the relative position of shapes, see above. (In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #3) > The to-be-introduced UNO command is not limited for the main menu. Users may > want it on the standard toolbar or somewhere else. I'd let you decide on this one. Toolbar allows "turning it off" back to Default, so the current situation is not as bad as for the menu. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.
[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 154410] Improve Calc's Format > Align Text menu's contents and labels
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=154410 Heiko Tietze changed: What|Removed |Added Severity|minor |enhancement Blocks|85811 |86899 CC|heiko.tietze@documentfounda | |tion.org| --- Comment #3 from Heiko Tietze --- Default would be right for numbers and left for text (in LTR). The alignment is implemented as single choice with radio buttons and while I could imagine solutions with checkboxes (switching it off means Default) this might be not easy to understand in itself and not handy for multi-selection. The to-be-introduced UNO command is not limited for the main menu. Users may want it on the standard toolbar or somewhere else. Referenced Bugs: https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=85811 [Bug 85811] [META] Main menu bar bugs and enhancements https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=86899 [Bug 86899] [META] Requests for the addition of UNO commands -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.
[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 154410] Improve Calc's Format > Align Text menu's contents and labels
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=154410 --- Comment #2 from Eyal Rozenberg --- (In reply to Stéphane Guillou (stragu) from comment #0) > - its functions can be used for other things than text, for example shapes; Isn't it in the cell formatting dialog though? > - "Format > Align Text" relabelled to "Alignment" because it doesn't just > affect text. This matches the tab title in the Format Cells dialog. What else does it affect? In the other bug, you mentioned "numbers", but numbers are also text. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.
[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 154410] Improve Calc's Format > Align Text menu's contents and labels
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=154410 --- Comment #1 from ady --- (In reply to Stéphane Guillou (stragu) from comment #0) > alignment, which needs to be present to revert a change made from the menu > (and be on par with the toolbar's de-activating of alignment options; I'm not sure I understand the need for that point. If I select a range of cells, set a certain alignment by pressing some icon on the toolbar, and then click again on the same icon, the result is the "default" alignment. I could change to "center", then "left" (icon looks pressed), then click again on "left" (icon looks normal, not pressed) and the resulting alignment is "default". Do we really need specific menu entries and/or icons for "default" alignment (one for horizontal and one for vertical)? What's wrong with having them in the dialog only? I'm not against it. I'm just asking. Another possibility could be to have the menu entries work as the icons; select once and the attribute is set (and the menu entry (icon) would look "pressed"); select the "pressed" menu entry again and the "default" alignment would be set. The menu entries and the icons in the toolbar(s) would/should be in sync. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.
[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 154410] Improve Calc's Format > Align Text menu's contents and labels
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=154410 Roman Kuznetsov <79045_79...@mail.ru> changed: What|Removed |Added Blocks|108252 |85811 CC||libreoffice-ux-advise@lists ||.freedesktop.org Keywords||needsUXEval Referenced Bugs: https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=85811 [Bug 85811] [META] Main menu bar bugs and enhancements https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=108252 [Bug 108252] [META] Cell-related bugs and enhancements (including formatting) -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.
