[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 48015] Option to export all sheet from Drawing and Presentation module

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Xisco Faulí  changed:

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   Keywords||needsUXEval

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 48015] Option to export all sheet from Drawing and Presentation module

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--- Comment #20 from kompilainenn <79045_79...@mail.ru> ---
there is an extension "Export as image"
https://extensions.libreoffice.org/extensions/export-as-images 
try it

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 48015] Option to export all sheet from Drawing and Presentation module

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Stéphane Aulery  changed:

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 48015] Option to export all sheet from Drawing and Presentation module

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https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=48015

Xisco Faulí  changed:

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--- Comment #19 from Xisco Faulí  ---
Removing keyword 'needsDevEval' as this bug is an easyHack

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 48015] Option to export all sheet from Drawing and Presentation module

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jan iversen  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

   Keywords|easyHack, needsDevEval, |
   |skillCpp|
 Status|NEEDINFO|NEW

--- Comment #18 from jan iversen  ---
Adding the menu entry is an easyHack, but making the code loop is non-trivial.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 48015] Option to export all sheet from Drawing and Presentation module

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https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=48015

jan iversen  changed:

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--- Comment #17 from jan iversen  ---
No need to add needsDevlEval for easyhacks (but ok it does not hurt).

need code pointer, difficulty

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 48015] Option to export all sheet from Drawing and Presentation module

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Heiko Tietze  changed:

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   Keywords|needsUXEval |

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 48015] Option to export all sheet from Drawing and Presentation module

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--- Comment #16 from Heiko Tietze  ---
So we better go back and set proposed easyhacks as a comment plus needDevEval.
And the dev sets EASYHACK along with all required information. Confirmation by
ESC assumed... Jan?

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 48015] Option to export all sheet from Drawing and Presentation module

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--- Comment #15 from Joel Madero  ---
(In reply to jan iversen from comment #14)
> (In reply to Joel Madero from comment #13)
> > Okay - I don't follow any of those decisions any more. Couple notes then:
> > 
> > 1) ESC or someone else should figure out what to do about needsDevEval
> > (which again is literally the exact same thing in this case); 
> 
> Actually not, only for easyhacks. When I look at bugs with needsDevEval
> there are typically questions about more than just code pointers.

Hm - no idea. I know that when needsDevEval was proposed it was meant to
replace propsedEasyHackif it's not being used that way, I have no idea.


> > 2) Markus before was really against using any other term that had "easyhack"
> > in it because searches become difficult so again, ESC should deal with it.
> The much simpler solution is to remove easyhack, after having monitored
> easyhacks closely for half a year, it is my experience that code pointers
> are very seldomly added later (see the current NEEDINFO and how old they are)

That's not my call to make. If easyHacks are leaving, then so be it ;) You and
ESC can make that call. I suspect some advocates won't be happy.

> > 
> > My guess is lots and lots of bugs will be inadvertently closed with this
> > method but that's no longer my issue.
> lots and lots is a bit high, we have at the moment ca. 15 issues missing
> code pointer.

Fair

> And if a code pointer is not supplied in 7 month, why should it be supplied
> later.

The problem is that these bugs are entirely valid but will be closed as INVALID
if they go to NEEDINFO and sit there for 7 months. So, the bugs are
inappropriately closed as INVALID (because they are entirely valid) they just
don't have code pointers.

> 
> Adding more keywords like proposed_easyhacks just means more maintenance and
> complexer searchs, but I am quite indifferent as long as we have a fixed
> definition.

I didn't say anything about adding new keywords - I said we have one already
that at least in theory should be used for (see
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Bugzilla/Fields/Keywords#needsDevEval)

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 48015] Option to export all sheet from Drawing and Presentation module

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--- Comment #14 from jan iversen  ---
(In reply to Joel Madero from comment #13)
> Okay - I don't follow any of those decisions any more. Couple notes then:
> 
> 1) ESC or someone else should figure out what to do about needsDevEval
> (which again is literally the exact same thing in this case); 

Actually not, only for easyhacks. When I look at bugs with needsDevEval there
are typically questions about more than just code pointers.


> 2) Markus before was really against using any other term that had "easyhack"
> in it because searches become difficult so again, ESC should deal with it.
The much simpler solution is to remove easyhack, after having monitored
easyhacks closely for half a year, it is my experience that code pointers are
very seldomly added later (see the current NEEDINFO and how old they are)
> 
> My guess is lots and lots of bugs will be inadvertently closed with this
> method but that's no longer my issue.
lots and lots is a bit high, we have at the moment ca. 15 issues missing code
pointer.

And if a code pointer is not supplied in 7 month, why should it be supplied
later.


Adding more keywords like proposed_easyhacks just means more maintenance and
complexer searchs, but I am quite indifferent as long as we have a fixed
definition.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 48015] Option to export all sheet from Drawing and Presentation module

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--- Comment #13 from Joel Madero  ---
Okay - I don't follow any of those decisions any more. Couple notes then:

1) ESC or someone else should figure out what to do about needsDevEval (which
again is literally the exact same thing in this case); 
2) Markus before was really against using any other term that had "easyhack" in
it because searches become difficult so again, ESC should deal with it.

My guess is lots and lots of bugs will be inadvertently closed with this method
but that's no longer my issue.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 48015] Option to export all sheet from Drawing and Presentation module

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Heiko Tietze  changed:

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--- Comment #12 from Heiko Tietze  ---
(In reply to Joel Madero from comment #11)
> FWIW I've never heard of NEEDINFO being used for code pointers. This is
> precisely what needsDevEval is for and placing it in NEEDINFO risks the bug
> being closed as INVALID after 7 months from auto purge. A lot of the times
> needsDevEval lasts a year or longer just because experienced devs are really
> busy and can't find the time to dig into code to give code pointers.
> 
> Just my thoughts - not sure how NEEDINFO adds anything on top of
> "needsDevEval" in keywords

It was the ESC decision how to handle proposed easyhacks. Samuel also warned
about this procedure. We could introduce PROPOSED_EASYHACK.

CC'ing Jan.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 48015] Option to export all sheet from Drawing and Presentation module

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Joel Madero  changed:

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--- Comment #11 from Joel Madero  ---
FWIW I've never heard of NEEDINFO being used for code pointers. This is
precisely what needsDevEval is for and placing it in NEEDINFO risks the bug
being closed as INVALID after 7 months from auto purge. A lot of the times
needsDevEval lasts a year or longer just because experienced devs are really
busy and can't find the time to dig into code to give code pointers.

Just my thoughts - not sure how NEEDINFO adds anything on top of "needsDevEval"
in keywords

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 48015] Option to export all sheet from Drawing and Presentation module

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Heiko Tietze  changed:

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 Status|NEW |NEEDINFO

--- Comment #10 from Heiko Tietze  ---
NEEDINFO for the code pointers.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 48015] Option to export all sheet from Drawing and Presentation module

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https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=48015

Heiko Tietze  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

   Keywords||easyHack, needsDevEval,
   ||needsUXEval, topicUI
 CC||libreoffice-ux-advise@lists
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 Blocks||100467

--- Comment #9 from Heiko Tietze  ---
Sounds like an EASYHACK.


Referenced Bugs:

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=100467
[Bug 100467] [META] Improve File handling in Draw
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