[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 54042] Cannot change decimal separator from comma to period in italian

2015-01-04 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=54042

--- Comment #19 from lore lovecraf...@gmail.com ---
Because the issue here is not to press a comma instead of a period. The issue
here is that if you calculate =3/2 LO returns 1,5 no matter what and there's no
way that I know of to get 1.5 instead. At the same time, there's no way to get
1.5 (entered directly in a cell) recognized as a number instead of text.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 54042] Cannot change decimal separator from comma to period in italian

2015-01-04 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=54042

--- Comment #20 from m.a.riosv mari...@miguelangel.mobi ---
Created attachment 111720
  -- https://bugs.freedesktop.org/attachment.cgi?id=111720action=edit
Sample file

If you want the cell formatted with dot as decimal separator select a language
with dot as decimal separator in the cell format, number's tab.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 54042] Cannot change decimal separator from comma to period in italian

2015-01-04 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=54042

--- Comment #21 from lore lovecraf...@gmail.com ---
Thanks for this trick!

In any case, that doesn't look to me like a real solution to the problem here.
Besides, it'll work as long as you don't enter the value by hand: if your cell
language is set to english, you still have to write 12,2 to get 12.2…

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 54042] Cannot change decimal separator from comma to period in italian

2015-01-04 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=54042

Adolfo Jayme f...@libreoffice.org changed:

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  Component|ux-advise   |Spreadsheet

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 54042] Cannot change decimal separator from comma to period in italian

2015-01-04 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=54042

--- Comment #17 from lore lovecraf...@gmail.com ---
Not sure I'm following… are you suggesting to somehow assign the period to the
comma key?

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 54042] Cannot change decimal separator from comma to period in italian

2015-01-03 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=54042

--- Comment #15 from lore lovecraf...@gmail.com ---
Thanks for the instructions. Unfortunately, as already said, my system decimal
separator is already set to period, yet, I couldn't find any way to set the
period in LO while keeping the language setting to Italian. As I'm on a laptop,
I don't have any number pad.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 54042] Cannot change decimal separator from comma to period in italian

2015-01-03 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=54042

--- Comment #16 from m.a.riosv mari...@miguelangel.mobi ---
Reading again I have seen comment #2.

I don't know in Mac but in Win there is a MS keyboard layout creator
http://msdn.microsoft.com/es-es/goglobal/bb964665.aspx, to customize the
keyboard. Maybe something similar in Mac and Linux what I think can help to
solve the issue with all program, setting up what character any key may
returns, works fine for me changing dot for comma with numeric keypad in Win

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 54042] Cannot change decimal separator from comma to period in italian

2015-01-02 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=54042

tommy27 ba...@quipo.it changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 CC||libreoffice-ux-advise@lists
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  Component|Localization|ux-advise
Summary|Cannot change decimal   |Cannot change decimal
   |separator in italian|separator from comma to
   ||period in italian

--- Comment #11 from tommy27 ba...@quipo.it ---

 Yes, I think that's the case. In my opinion you should be able to select the
 separator regardless of the language you are using…
 
 
 Regards
 
 Lorenzo

I have mixed feelings about this.
should we allow users to do what they want (setting the decimal separator
regardless of the language) even if this is against some countries typographic
rules? 

I'm afraid that such a change could generate interoperabilty conflicts among
users of the same locale but using different settings.

let's hear what the UX-advise guys thinks about this.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 54042] Cannot change decimal separator from comma to period in italian

2015-01-02 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=54042

--- Comment #13 from lore lovecraf...@gmail.com ---
Two comments:

1. I think users should be able to select whatever separator they wish (as in
excel).
2. If the separator is inherited from locale anyway, what's the purpose of 
Same as locale setting 's checkbox?

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 54042] Cannot change decimal separator from comma to period in italian

2015-01-02 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=54042

Julien Nabet serval2...@yahoo.fr changed:

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--- Comment #12 from Julien Nabet serval2...@yahoo.fr ---
Andras: thought you might be interested in this one since it's about i18n

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 54042] Cannot change decimal separator from comma to period in italian

2015-01-02 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=54042

m.a.riosv mari...@miguelangel.mobi changed:

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--- Comment #14 from m.a.riosv mari...@miguelangel.mobi ---
I think help is clear about the option:
https://help.libreoffice.org/scalc/cui/ui/optlanguagespage/decimalseparator?Language=en-USSystem=WINVersion=4.4#bm_id2873012

Decimal separator key - Same as locale setting

Specifies to use the decimal separator key that is set in your system when you
press the respective key on the number pad.

If this checkbox is activated, the character shown after Same as locale
setting is inserted when you press the key on the number pad. If this checkbox
is not activated, the character that your keyboard driver software provides is
inserted.


Maybe changing it at OS level is the way.

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