[Libreoffice-ux-advise] Color schemes

2012-07-26 Thread Jan Holesovsky
Hi UX guys,

I've been poking around the code that is responsible for the color
schemes as found in

Tools - Options... - Appearance - Color scheme

There is some terrible duplication of functionality with vcl going on
there, and I'd love to clean it up.  On the way, I'd like to remove the
possibility to name the schemes, and switch between them.

My reasoning is that I doubt that a user is going to switch between
themes just according to her/his mood ;-) - I bet that most of the users
are happy with the default colors, and the rest will just tweak them
once, and be done with that for the rest of their life.

So - what is your view on that?  OK for you to remove the Scheme combo
box + [Save...] and [Delete] buttons?  Or do you have another approach
to this in mind?

[This shouldn't affect the possibility to install an extension that will
change the colors.]

Thank you,
Kendy

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Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Color schemes

2012-07-26 Thread Olivier Hallot
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Hi Kendy

I tend to agree with you, becasue we offer just one theme as default. If
we offer a set of themes, this feature will be appreciated by users
(yes, I now, this is dumb, but users are users and they have mood).

(I also had once a complain that Calc hiperlinks were blue on a grey
backgorund, which had poor visual rendering. I had to go to Appearance
to turn grey to white)

Em 26-07-2012 05:33, Jan Holesovsky escreveu:
 My reasoning is that I doubt that a user is going to switch between
 themes just according to her/his mood ;-) - I bet that most of the users
 are happy with the default colors, and the rest will just tweak them
 once, and be done with that for the rest of their life.

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Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Color schemes

2012-07-26 Thread Cor Nouws

Jan Holesovsky wrote (26-07-12 10:33)


My reasoning is that I doubt that a user is going to switch between
themes just according to her/his mood ;-)
[...]



[This shouldn't affect the possibility to install an extension that will
change the colors.]


I have no idea about who uses it, but the latter possibility (extension) 
makes that I give my +1



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Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Color schemes

2012-07-26 Thread Regina Henschel

Hi Jan,

Jan Holesovsky schrieb:

Hi UX guys,

I've been poking around the code that is responsible for the color
schemes as found in

Tools - Options... - Appearance - Color scheme

There is some terrible duplication of functionality with vcl going on
there, and I'd love to clean it up.  On the way, I'd like to remove the
possibility to name the schemes, and switch between them.

My reasoning is that I doubt that a user is going to switch between
themes just according to her/his mood ;-) - I bet that most of the users
are happy with the default colors, and the rest will just tweak them
once, and be done with that for the rest of their life.

So - what is your view on that?  OK for you to remove the Scheme combo
box + [Save...] and [Delete] buttons?  Or do you have another approach
to this in mind?


In can imagine these scenarios, where saving a scheme might be useful, 
but think they are unlikely:
(1) A school does not use individual accounts and need a way to quickly 
change color settings for a visual disabled pupil. [I would advise the 
school to give an account or a portable version to that pupil.]
(2) A user works on different places with the same account and monitors 
and environments are very different.
(3) A user works with his personal settings but needs a quick change to 
the defaults when creating tutorials.


Nevertheless I second the idea of removing the scheme option from the 
dialog.


The shared macros contain a library Gimmicks. Perhaps it is possible 
to put saving current color settings and loading a stored version in a 
module there? That library has already a tool to change user settings.


This problem shows again, that a division in a simple dialog for often 
needed settings and an advanced dialog for power users and 
administrators is needed.


Kind regards
Regina
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