Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] page borders (bug 52327)
Hei hei! For the first time since I work with LibreOffice, I tried to make Calc print what I want, instead of what Calc wants ... and the result is not very encouraging. I have a document with 4 columns and 20 rows, that are smaller than my paper format A4. I'd like Calc to scale those cells to paper width, without me having to care about their actual size. Playing with Print Ranges and Scaling mode could not get me there. The only thing that seemed to work was Reduce/enlarge printout and figuring out the right Scaling factor manually. But there are two problems with this: 1) Scaling affects _everything_ and can lead to cell boarders disappearing (not on the screen but on the printout) 2) Manual adjustments are time consuming, especially for multiple documents with multiple sheets So far, I only see page borders as the solution. The user has to format the content accordingly. And that is only possible when the page borders are _always_ visible. Btw., in the page preview, the page format can be reached by clicking on a Format Page button, or right click Page Layout Is there a reason why the same thing has two different names? Greetings nag-niel M ___ Libreoffice-ux-advise mailing list Libreoffice-ux-advise@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-ux-advise
Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] page borders (bug 52327)
Hi Regina, to make sure we are talking about the same page borders: there are slightly thicker lines in normal view indicating what is printed on a page. But they appear only after print preview for a sheet was executed. If the bug reporter confirmes that print preview works for him I'll close the bug with NOTABUG - any objections? Christina ___ Libreoffice-ux-advise mailing list Libreoffice-ux-advise@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-ux-advise
Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] page borders (bug 52327)
Hi Christina, I think reporter expect all sheets showing the page borders after print preview. He have only one sheet showing them because Print only selected sheets is checked in Tools Options LO Calc , Print. This option is checked by default. I don't see a bug here unless he prefer this option not in default settings. Gérard -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Libreoffice-ux-advise-page-borders-bug-52327-tp4005080p4005300.html Sent from the UX-Advise mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Libreoffice-ux-advise mailing list Libreoffice-ux-advise@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-ux-advise
Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] page borders (bug 52327)
Hi Christina, Christina Roßmanith schrieb: Hi Regina, to make sure we are talking about the same page borders: there are slightly thicker lines in normal view indicating what is printed on a page. Ah, that are no page borders, but that are the lines for Automatik page break. Therefore I was so confused. The color of this lines can be set in Tools Options LibreOffice Appearance, section Spreadsheet. But they appear only after print preview for a sheet was executed. Yes, I can confirm, that they are not shown initially. After switching to Page Break Preview (in menu View) and back to Normal they are shown. Calling Page preview and closing will do the same, and calling page layout dialog and finish with OK or calling printing dialog as well. If the bug reporter confirmes that print preview works for him I'll close the bug with NOTABUG - any objections? It is a bug (or a missing feature), that they are not shown immediately. But that behavior is not new. It is there at least since OOo1.1.5. So NOTABUG is not really true. Another question is, whether you want to work on it. Because a lot of actions trigger this lines, the bug is not severe. In OOo-times there had been the large dump OOo later for such reports. You can confirm the issue and set it to a low importance, or immediately close it with WONTFIX. But WONTFIX sound always harsh for the reporter of the bug and might discourage him to help in LibreOffice, so I would not use it. Kind regards Regina ___ Libreoffice-ux-advise mailing list Libreoffice-ux-advise@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-ux-advise
[Libreoffice-ux-advise] page borders (bug 52327)
Hi, I had a look at fdo52327 and have some questions: 1. Should page preview trigger the calculation of page borders? 2. If so, should it be a trigger for the current sheet only or for all sheets? Christina Rossmanith ___ Libreoffice-ux-advise mailing list Libreoffice-ux-advise@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-ux-advise
Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] page borders (bug 52327)
Hi Christina, Christina Roßmanith schrieb: Hi, I had a look at fdo52327 and have some questions: It is not clear, what the submitter of the bug wants. I guess, that he wants the page borders shown in normal view. But I think, that would be no good idea, because the layout of the page contains also header, footer, and background, and considers repeating rows and columns, scaling and a lot of other things. 1. Should page preview trigger the calculation of page borders? Yes, because the page preview is the command .uno:PrintPreview and is intended to show how the sheet content is distributed to the page and what effects the page layout settings have. Currently there is no problem in showing page borders. The borders are shown, as well as background or other settings of the page layout. 2. If so, should it be a trigger for the current sheet only or for all sheets? The page preview shows the print ranges of all selected sheets. So it needs to calculate the borders of the page layout of all selected sheets. But I do not see any problem at all. Kind regards Regina ___ Libreoffice-ux-advise mailing list Libreoffice-ux-advise@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-ux-advise