Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 81475] Meta: enhancing Writer's standard and formatting toolbars

2014-08-09 Thread dollyp
Damn, didn't realise that. Thanks. If I recollect right that option wasn't in
MSO2003 (last version I used) so I got used to the hassle of using the menu.

David



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Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 81475] Meta: enhancing Writer's standard and formatting toolbars

2014-08-08 Thread Jay Philips
Hi David,

Next to the paste button is a down arrow that gives you paste special
options like html, rtf, and without formatting.

Jay
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Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 81475] Meta: enhancing Writer's standard and formatting toolbars

2014-08-08 Thread dollyp
I really do get irritated with this argument about styles. Yes, they are the
right way and yes, we should use them all the time. But the real world isn't
like that and a significant proportion, if not majority, of LO users just
don't get styles. Period.

I use styles and have taught their use in offices I've managed for many
years. But for short 1 to 2 page documents it is irrelevant whether users
will be bothered about spending time styling their documents. Please do not
reduce the choice of users to use fonts and direct formatting if they wish,
and do not make it harder for them to do so.

One thing I'd really like to see on our toolbars is a button for pasting as
per edit>paste>special>without formatting. I guess I use this method of
pasting at least as often as the paste button and if we want to educate
users to use styles we do need to give them a way to paste without messing
up their formatting.

David




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Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 81475] Meta: enhancing Writer's standard and formatting toolbars

2014-08-07 Thread Jean-Francois Nifenecker
Le 07/08/2014 15:22, bugzilla-dae...@freedesktop.org a écrit :
>>
>> The concept of styles are foreign to many users and they will stick with
>> using the font names dialog to select fonts they want to use and i doubt
>> there is anything that will change this behaviour unless styles are
>> introduced in a new manner that is very ease to grasp.

+1

> 
> Yes, but the font name drop-down is rarely used,

Could you elaborate, please?

When I see the people around me (corporate environment, 400+ users) who
don't use styles (most of them, unfortunately), the font drop-down *is*
used very often.

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