Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Floppy Disk ...
Hi all, Lapo answered privately (because this list is goes unanswered if you don't use "Reply All")... Astron. 2012/1/8 Stefan Knorr (Astron) : > Hi Lapo, everyone else, > > On 6 January 2012 20:11, Lapo Calamandrei wrote: >> I'm missing some bits here, is it for libreoffice usage? Anyway I'm >> happy to relicense the icons whatever you need as long as it is for an >> oss project. > > Yes, these would then be used in the Tango theme of the upcoming > LibreOffice 3.5. Not to get too bureaucratic, but the licenses you'd > have to agree to would be LGPL v3+ and MPL. > Officially agreed then :-) I think you need to include in the repositories somewhere the 'source' svgs or some pointer to them to satisfy the gpl source clause (IANAL though). > The files would be these: > http://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-icon-theme/tree/gnome/24x24/actions/document-save-as.png > http://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-icon-theme/tree/gnome/24x24/actions/document-save.png > http://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-icon-theme/tree/gnome/16x16/actions/document-save-as.png > http://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-icon-theme/tree/gnome/16x16/actions/document-save-as.png > > > I've attached a patch that replaces the appropriate diskette icons in > our theme with your (Lapo's) Save As icons. Additionally, this patch > imports a Reload icon from the tango.freedesktop.org artwork and > removes a few now-obsolete source xcf.bz2's. Please consider that the tango example base set is basically unmaintaned and it's kinda rotting, so the more icons you pick from gnome icon theme (which is the latest and greatest implementation of the tango style) in place of tango ones the better. ___ Libreoffice-ux-advise mailing list Libreoffice-ux-advise@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-ux-advise
Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Floppy Disk ...
I'm missing some bits here, is it for libreoffice usage? Anyway I'm happy to relicense the icons whatever you need as long as it is for an oss project. Cheers Lapo 2012/1/6 Jakub Steiner : > gnome-icon-theme is LGPL3/CCBYSA3. The author of the two icons in question > is Lapo I believe. I'm pretty sure he'll be willing to relicense under the > terms you need. CCing. > > On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 6:44 PM, Stefan Knorr (Astron) > wrote: >> >> >> The Gnome icons I meant are these: >> >> http://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-icon-theme/plain/gnome/24x24/actions/document-save.png >> >> http://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-icon-theme/plain/gnome/16x16/actions/document-save.png >> >> The 24*24 one is really amazing and very, very descriptive, the 16*16 >> one is maybe a bit harder to decipher, because it's more simplified, >> but on most systems the larger size seems to be the default anyway. >> >> Now, there's another question with regard to our icons: how are they >> actually licensed? The Human icon theme folder for instance, contains >> this: >> >> http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/tree/icon-themes/human/CopyrightsTango >> I know, Human came into the repository long after the fork. So, is >> that document moot now? >> Also, how do software licenses apply to icons, do we actually need to >> stress out on licensing here? >> >> Regards, >> >> Astron. >> >> >> [1] Although, what I didn't know, is that there's a CVS repo ... I >> used to download the zip archive from Wayback Machine because the >> Tango homepage is a bit broken currently. > > > > > -- > Jakub Steiner > http://jimmac.musichall.cz ___ Libreoffice-ux-advise mailing list Libreoffice-ux-advise@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-ux-advise
Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Floppy Disk ...
On Fri, Jan 06, 2012 at 06:44:10PM +0100, Stefan Knorr (Astron) wrote: > Now, there's another question with regard to our icons: how are they > actually licensed? The Human icon theme folder for instance, contains > this: > http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/tree/icon-themes/human/CopyrightsTango > I know, Human came into the repository long after the fork. So, is > that document moot now? Why should it be? Unfortunately the human theme was a colorful collection using artwork from various sources with very little care taken for consistency. Luckily, as the reference location for human icon contributions is now LibreOffice itself, so our default license requirements apply for further contributions, making at least those halfway consistent. But for the old stuff, I fear we have to keep the notes (unless they are replaced, or the original author allow us to relicense). I dont think we should be proactive about the relicensing as it would be a real timewaster. Best, Bjoern ___ Libreoffice-ux-advise mailing list Libreoffice-ux-advise@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-ux-advise
Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Floppy Disk ...
gnome-icon-theme is LGPL3/CCBYSA3. The author of the two icons in question is Lapo I believe. I'm pretty sure he'll be willing to relicense under the terms you need. CCing. On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 6:44 PM, Stefan Knorr (Astron) < heinzless...@googlemail.com> wrote: > > The Gnome icons I meant are these: > > http://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-icon-theme/plain/gnome/24x24/actions/document-save.png > > http://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-icon-theme/plain/gnome/16x16/actions/document-save.png > > The 24*24 one is really amazing and very, very descriptive, the 16*16 > one is maybe a bit harder to decipher, because it's more simplified, > but on most systems the larger size seems to be the default anyway. > > Now, there's another question with regard to our icons: how are they > actually licensed? The Human icon theme folder for instance, contains > this: > > http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/tree/icon-themes/human/CopyrightsTango > I know, Human came into the repository long after the fork. So, is > that document moot now? > Also, how do software licenses apply to icons, do we actually need to > stress out on licensing here? > > Regards, > > Astron. > > > [1] Although, what I didn't know, is that there's a CVS repo ... I > used to download the zip archive from Wayback Machine because the > Tango homepage is a bit broken currently. > -- Jakub Steiner http://jimmac.musichall.cz ___ Libreoffice-ux-advise mailing list Libreoffice-ux-advise@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-ux-advise
Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Floppy Disk ...
Hi Michael, > So - unless people scream; I'd like to replace Save and SaveAs with > these images from gnome-cvs: > > http://webcvs.freedesktop.org/tango/tango-icon-theme/22x22/actions/document-save.png?revision=1.2 > http://webcvs.freedesktop.org/tango/tango-icon-theme/16x16/actions/document-save.png?revision=1.2 > http://webcvs.freedesktop.org/tango/tango-icon-theme/22x22/actions/document-save-as.png?revision=1.1 > http://webcvs.freedesktop.org/tango/tango-icon-theme/16x16/actions/document-save-as.png?revision=1.1 > > Let the screaming begin :-) failing that I'd like to get them in for B3 > next week. Thanks for the reminder Jakub - though - are these the latest > tango icons ? ... Scream. I know of this icon set [1], and know that these are in the PD, but ... these particular two icons are at least not my favourites as far as Tango icons go. I don't know if any of you agree, but I think it is pretty hard to discern what the white-ish/grey thing is (a hard drive), also the hard drive is also one of these inventions that slowly goes out of fashion. (And, Jakub, Garrett, please don't understand this as an attack on Tango/you personally – Tango/your work generally is great.) The Gnome icons I meant are these: http://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-icon-theme/plain/gnome/24x24/actions/document-save.png http://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-icon-theme/plain/gnome/16x16/actions/document-save.png The 24*24 one is really amazing and very, very descriptive, the 16*16 one is maybe a bit harder to decipher, because it's more simplified, but on most systems the larger size seems to be the default anyway. Now, there's another question with regard to our icons: how are they actually licensed? The Human icon theme folder for instance, contains this: http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/tree/icon-themes/human/CopyrightsTango I know, Human came into the repository long after the fork. So, is that document moot now? Also, how do software licenses apply to icons, do we actually need to stress out on licensing here? Regards, Astron. [1] Although, what I didn't know, is that there's a CVS repo ... I used to download the zip archive from Wayback Machine because the Tango homepage is a bit broken currently. ___ Libreoffice-ux-advise mailing list Libreoffice-ux-advise@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-ux-advise
Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Floppy Disk ...
On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 5:54 PM, Michael Meeks wrote: > >Let the screaming begin :-) failing that I'd like to get them in > for B3 > next week. Thanks for the reminder Jakub - though - are these the latest > tango icons ? ... > Hi Michael, Yes, that should be up to date. I need to hunt fdo sitewranglers as the links to the latest released tarballs are broken right now. But the cvs (ehm) should work still. cheers Jakub Steiner http://jimmac.musichall.cz ___ Libreoffice-ux-advise mailing list Libreoffice-ux-advise@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-ux-advise
Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Floppy Disk ...
So, Jakub pointed out that I got that lot re-licensed by Novell/SUSE in some heavy lifting process, and into the public domain; so we can include them into LibreOffice. On Wed, 2012-01-04 at 14:43 +, Michael Meeks wrote: > We'd really love to switch our 'Save As' icon to the latest Tango > version, but have some licensing queries: is there any chance we could > get the Save & SaveAs icons included into LibreOffice 3.5 (UI freeze > coming up in the next weeks) So - unless people scream; I'd like to replace Save and SaveAs with these images from gnome-cvs: http://webcvs.freedesktop.org/tango/tango-icon-theme/22x22/actions/document-save.png?revision=1.2 http://webcvs.freedesktop.org/tango/tango-icon-theme/16x16/actions/document-save.png?revision=1.2 http://webcvs.freedesktop.org/tango/tango-icon-theme/22x22/actions/document-save-as.png?revision=1.1 http://webcvs.freedesktop.org/tango/tango-icon-theme/16x16/actions/document-save-as.png?revision=1.1 Let the screaming begin :-) failing that I'd like to get them in for B3 next week. Thanks for the reminder Jakub - though - are these the latest tango icons ? ... Thanks, Michael. -- michael.me...@suse.com <><, Pseudo Engineer, itinerant idiot ___ Libreoffice-ux-advise mailing list Libreoffice-ux-advise@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-ux-advise
Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Floppy Disk ...
Hi Garret / Jimmac, First - welcome to a CC on our (lowish volume, fun to join, non-reply-to-mangling UX advise list for LibreOffice[1] ;-) We'd really love to switch our 'Save As' icon to the latest Tango version, but have some licensing queries: is there any chance we could get the Save & SaveAs icons included into LibreOffice 3.5 (UI freeze coming up in the next weeks) and/or who owns the rights to them ? [ I believe our artwork should be MPL/LGPLv3+ - though more liberal is fine ]. Thanks ! Michael. On Wed, 2012-01-04 at 14:54 +0100, Stefan Knorr (Astron) wrote: > Hi Michael, > > >And wondered: can we not just drop the updated Tango 'save' icon into > > our theme for 3.5 ? [ the freeze doesn't affect artwork yet ;-] - any > > objections to that ? > > Hm ... yeah, the objection pretty much is this: we don't have a > suitable icon yet (I agree with Alex's reasoning that hard disks > shouldn't be displayed either). > Gnome has a suitable icon without hard disk, but Gnome's icons are > LGPL3-only/CC-BY-SA, so we can't include that, right? > > Astron. > [1] - http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-ux-advise -- michael.me...@suse.com <><, Pseudo Engineer, itinerant idiot ___ Libreoffice-ux-advise mailing list Libreoffice-ux-advise@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-ux-advise
Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Floppy Disk ...
Hi Michael, > And wondered: can we not just drop the updated Tango 'save' icon into > our theme for 3.5 ? [ the freeze doesn't affect artwork yet ;-] - any > objections to that ? Hm ... yeah, the objection pretty much is this: we don't have a suitable icon yet (I agree with Alex's reasoning that hard disks shouldn't be displayed either). Gnome has a suitable icon without hard disk, but Gnome's icons are LGPL3-only/CC-BY-SA, so we can't include that, right? Astron. ___ Libreoffice-ux-advise mailing list Libreoffice-ux-advise@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-ux-advise
