Re: federated free software movement

[Paul Sutton via libreplanet-discuss]

On 23/11/2021 21:05, Dennis Payne wrote:

On Tue, 2021-11-23 at 18:02 +, Paul Sutton via libreplanet-discuss
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Hi
I think this may be it

https://stallman.org/cgi-bin/showpage.cgi?path=/articles/encyclopedia.html=encyclopedia=norm=0

  From https://stallman.org


I can't help but feel this is impossible to implement. It relies on the
same blind faith in technology that facebook has used to justify doing
nothing about the misinformation.

Stallman specifically mentions that holocaust denial would be allowed
but that endorsements/peer review would allow people to evaluate the
truthfulness of the article. Then says modified version would lose all
endorsements. So if people keep adding useful information to an
article, it might keep losing all it's endorsements. Holocaust denial
might appear to have more endorsements in that situation. Even if have
some way to handle that, not all endorsements are equal. If 20 medical
doctors are saying people are getting sick because of X and 50
employees from company that makes X say the cause is undetermined, I
think I'd trust the doctors.

If you can make it, more power to you.





I think you raise a good point here

https://senseaboutscience.org/ and  their project 
https://askforevidence.org/index is the sort of thing we need, so that 
we can promote proper research, debate and evidence backed research.


Holocaust denial is illegal in some countries anyway.

The last thing we want is people having a platform to post anything they 
want,  regardless of where that information comes from and to do so with 
impunity.


If someone posts an article and a credible person endorses that article, 
then the article is modified and the person endorsing it, does not 
notice (people are busy, after all) it may look like they have endorsed 
the new version,  that could easily cost people their jobs, careers and 
reputation.


Or they could be easily linked (given people fail to fact check anyway) 
to an article,  same result loss of reputation, career and job.


They could then sue the person who owns the website, and give free 
software is also about transparency, then that information would NOT be 
hidden from public view.



Paul


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Re: federated free software movement

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On 22/11/2021 21:49, Yuchen Pei wrote:


jahoti via libreplanet-discuss  
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On 11/16/21 7:45 PM, Dennis Payne wrote:

I don't see how a federated wikipedia would work. Even if you banned
obvious trolls, how would you deal with contentious issues? Federation
isn't some magical technologies that immediately makes everything
better.


For the case of contentious issues, Stallman did make an interesting 
suggestion in his essay proposing a free encyclopaedia that multiple 
versions of an article could be offered.


Do you happen to have a link to that essay?



Hi
I think this may be it

https://stallman.org/cgi-bin/showpage.cgi?path=/articles/encyclopedia.html=encyclopedia=norm=0

From https://stallman.org


Paul


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Re: federated free software movement

[Yuchen Pei]

jahoti via libreplanet-discuss 
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On 11/16/21 7:45 PM, Dennis Payne wrote:
I don't see how a federated wikipedia would work. Even if you 
banned
obvious trolls, how would you deal with contentious issues? 
Federation
isn't some magical technologies that immediately makes 
everything

better.


For the case of contentious issues, Stallman did make an 
interesting 
suggestion in his essay proposing a free encyclopaedia that 
multiple 
versions of an article could be offered.


Do you happen to have a link to that essay?

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