Re: New animated video: Fight to Repair (alternative storylines)

[Gregory Chamberlain via libreplanet-discuss]

Jean Louis writes:
[^1]: Sadly it uses non-free JavaScript from various domains, 
but the
site is mostly usable without it.  Using NoScript I whitelist 
only the
nutritionfacts.org domain itself which is necessary for the 
search
feature (alternatively use "site:nutritionfacts.org" with your 
favourite
search engine).  And to avoid YouTube you can stream or 
download the

videos using youtube-dl (https://youtube-dl.org)


Additionally any video shown on www.youtube.com may be directly
downloaded from www.youtubepp.com, so just replace in the URL 
the word

"youtube" with "youtubepp" to download any video. It works often
better than youtube-dl


Also worth mentioning are Tube[1,2] and Invidious[3,4], both 
AGPLv3:


[1]: https://tube.cadence.moe
[2]: https://sr.ht/~cadence/tube/
[3]: https://invidiou.us
[4]: https://github.com/iv-org/invidious

Sadly many instances are often blocked by YouTube so it’s not 
always

the most reliable experience.

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Re: New animated video: Fight to Repair

[Adonay Felipe Nogueira via libreplanet-discuss]

Em 15/01/2021 10:05, Paul D. Fernhout escreveu:
> There is still physical violence by the hero near the end of "Fight to
> Repair" which could *potentially* have ended in the death of the villain
> (from being kicked off a motorcycle at high speed). Potentially -- out
> of context -- such an action by the hero could be categorized as felony
> assault? Although presumably in context that assault would not be
> prosecuted as such as it was in defense of two other people's lives? And
> in the end the villain just ended up sliding into a pile of garbage
> without apparent injury from the physical assault -- which maybe is the
> best one could hope for in this genre?
> […]
> I continue to encourage you -- especially in light of recent events in
> the USA -- to think more deeply about crafting FSF messages that avoid
> explicitly or implicitly endorsing the idea that "vigilante violence is
> the answer". In that sense, this video is much better than the last. But
> there may still be room for improvement -- or maybe not given the genre?
> […]
> Most of us grew up on a steady diet of violent media -- so watching
> physical assault in videos has been normalized in that sense. And it's
> true that conflict is a core part of almost any story. Thinking about
> ways to transcend conflicts -- especially non-violently -- can be a huge
> challenge. One possible starting point:
> https://duckduckgo.com/?q=non-violent+conflict+resolution

Interesting take indeed, and I do agree with your statements.

As a suggestion for an improved plot, perhaps the red jacket's bike could fail 
to follow the ambulance due to some other random event (another vehicle in auto 
pilot, perhaps), in such a way that there is no need to make it crash, but just 
slow down so the green jacket can finish his goal.

As for how to tie this alternative plot to the arrest of only the red jacket 
biker, the other vehicle in autopilot which the red jacket biker meets can be a 
police car and, although there would be no crash, the high speed was a danger 
to other citizens, and the vehicle was full of past felonies. To solve the case 
of the green jacket biker, he could go to court but would soon be freed due to 
proofs that he had collected showing the good hackers' attempt to warn the 
ambulance manufacturers, and also due to the testimony of the ambulance driver.


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Re: New animated video: Fight to Repair (alternative storylines)

[Jean Louis]

Only regarding to following statement, let me add my comment:

* Adam Van Ymeren  [2021-01-21 18:54]:
> It's theoretically possible for a proprietary software vendor to
> make a piece of software that is more secure and more stable than a
> given piece of free software. But a proprietary vendor can never,
> by definition, produce a piece of software that is as _free_ as a
> free software.

Yes, theoretically and practically it is possible to make a statement
by proprietors that their proprietary software is more secure and more
stable, but unless source code is available then no third party and no
user of software can verify it to be so.

If source code of proprietary software is not available for
verification and building, which is more often the case, then
statements cannot be proven by third parties or users.

Jean Louis
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Re: New animated video: Fight to Repair (alternative storylines)

[Jean Louis]

* Gregory Chamberlain via libreplanet-discuss 
 [2021-01-21 18:54]:
> However, educating people on the implications of software licensing is
> tricky enough as it is.  Personally, I found the present video a bit
> hard to follow -- and I already know about free software!

Watch Richard Stallman's videos and his speeches on free software. He
presents it in very clear and simple manner.

> By cramming in these additional issues with hospitals, we risk confusing
> viewers and making the message unclear.  I don't think there's an easy
> way to marry the two ideas, much though I'd like to be proven
> otherwise.

Then somebody can create new videos. A lot of videos and lot of
exposure will give good inmpact.

> [^1]: Sadly it uses non-free JavaScript from various domains, but the
> site is mostly usable without it.  Using NoScript I whitelist only the
> nutritionfacts.org domain itself which is necessary for the search
> feature (alternatively use "site:nutritionfacts.org" with your favourite
> search engine).  And to avoid YouTube you can stream or download the
> videos using youtube-dl (https://youtube-dl.org)

Additionally any video shown on www.youtube.com may be directly
downloaded from www.youtubepp.com, so just replace in the URL the word
"youtube" with "youtubepp" to download any video. It works often
better than youtube-dl

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Re: New animated video: Fight to Repair (alternative storylines)

[J Leslie Turriff]

Blindfold vs magnifying glass.

Leslie

On 2021-01-19 23:15:34 Paul D. Fernhout wrote:
> |And also another PSA on proprietary vs. open/free standards. Not sure
> |what a good visual would be for that -- maybe dirty vs. clean?
> |


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Re: New animated video: Fight to Repair (alternative storylines)

[Adam Van Ymeren]

On 2021-01-19 9:15 p.m., Paul D. Fernhout wrote:

* Hospital suffers a malware incursion or ransomware extortion due to
their unpatched proprietary software, and all their vital equipment
shuts down. Panic ensues.


I'm not sure I like this angle.  It frames the discussion to be about 
the "quality" of the software, as opposed to the freedom. We don't want 
to pit free software against proprietary software on the grounds of 
quality/stability/security).  It's theoretically possible for a 
proprietary software vendor to make a piece of software that is more 
secure and more stable than a given piece of free software.  But a 
proprietary vendor can never, by definition, produce a piece of software 
that is as _free_ as a free software. Respecting user freedom is what 
sets free software apart, and I think the goal of promotional material 
should be to try to convince people why they should add "freedom" to 
what they value from software, as opposed market to them on the grounds 
of "free software is better."


I think this essay is relevant: 
https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/when-free-software-isnt-practically-superior.html



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Re: New animated video: Fight to Repair (alternative storylines)

[Gregory Chamberlain via libreplanet-discuss]

I like your hospital plot.  It's non-violent and would work well for an
animated short, I think.

The hospital computer upgrade story is a public spending nightmare and
perfectly illustrates the need for free software.

At the risk of dragging this conversation further off-topic, thank you
for bringing up some of the problems with the medical and pharmaceutical
industries.

Although most free software advocates are not particularly interested in
diet and nutrition, we can at least agree that there is another kind of
injustice going on here.  These industries are woefully maligned with
public health and suspiciously ignorant of the role that nutrition can
play in preventing and even reversing chronic disease.

I recommend anyone who isn't a fan of heart disease, cancer, etc. to
visit https://nutritionfacts.org for more information -- they are a
nonprofit and science-based.[^1]

However, educating people on the implications of software licensing is
tricky enough as it is.  Personally, I found the present video a bit
hard to follow -- and I already know about free software!

By cramming in these additional issues with hospitals, we risk confusing
viewers and making the message unclear.  I don't think there's an easy
way to marry the two ideas, much though I'd like to be proven otherwise.

Regards,

Greg.

[^1]: Sadly it uses non-free JavaScript from various domains, but the
site is mostly usable without it.  Using NoScript I whitelist only the
nutritionfacts.org domain itself which is necessary for the search
feature (alternatively use "site:nutritionfacts.org" with your favourite
search engine).  And to avoid YouTube you can stream or download the
videos using youtube-dl (https://youtube-dl.org) .

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Re: New animated video: Fight to Repair (alternative storylines)

[Paul D. Fernhout]

On 1/19/21 3:38 PM, Paul Sutton via libreplanet-discuss wrote:
> 
> On 16/01/2021 10:14, quiliro wrote:
>>
>> That is a very enlightening analysis.  Thank you very much for your
>> input Paul   .
>>
>> I would like to see some good reference to non-violent examples, beyond
>> the classical King and Gandhi, in order to visualize what a non-violent
>> free software promotional video could be.
>>
> 
> Agreed, I was thinking of a storyline such as
> 
> Video starts with text in the corner saying present day
> User is operating a device, e.g laptop,  the screen flashes error and it
> turns off,
> 
> user tries to find a way to dismantle device,  and finds he / she can't
> calls up manufacturer and is told she / she is not permitted to do that
> 
> device is thrown in to trash,,  video zooms out to a whole city scape
> then zooms in to a landfill, filling up with broken devices.  Date in
> corner shows a year go by with devices filling up the landfil
> 
> a message flashes on screen,it never used to be that way
> 
> the video then rewinds back, (think back to when you rewound old VCR
> tapes) with a clock date in the corner to say for example 1970s when we
> could just take stuff apart and fix it with a soldering iron
> 
> same thing happens, user is able to fix the device
> 
> fast forward back to present day + 5 years
> 
> message comes up right to repair allows us to fix devices, give them new
> life / use and is better for the environment.
> 
> Shows people fixing devices and giving to the more needy, extending life
> and swapping parts to help with the above.
> 
> also shows install of free software to refurbished devices.
> 
> Just a thought on a different storyline,  due to the environmental side
> of this perhaps a partnership with them, to help with sponsorship.

Thanks quiliro and Paul S. for your comments and ideas. Great new angle
with the environmental side.

Here is an additional possible non-violent storyline which is a spin on
the original Fight to Repair:

* Hospital board decides to use complex proprietary software because the
initial costs is supposedly cheaper based on some sales pitch and
because it has a lot of fancy features with supposedly easy-to-use
interoperability with proprietary protocols.
* Hospital IT director quits in disgust and goes to work for another
hospital after warning that patients could die if that software has
various predictable problems which can not be fixed by his IT team.
* Patient is being rushed to a hospital in life threatening situation.
Ideally the viewer cares about this specific patient for some reason.
* Hospital suffers a malware incursion or ransomware extortion due to
their unpatched proprietary software, and all their vital equipment
shuts down. Panic ensues.
* Ambulance arrives at a hospital with patients about to die.
* Patient survives because it turns out the ambulance was going to the
*second* hospital where the IT director went to work at which uses
up-to-date patched free software.

I don't want to think about what happens at the first hospital, but here
is one real-life example:
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/26/us/hospital-cyber-attack.html
"That day, though, Ms. Cargill did a double-take: When she tried to log
in to her work station, it booted her out. Then it happened again. She
turned to the system of pneumatic tubes used to transport lab work. What
she saw there was a red caution symbol, a circle with a cross. She
walked to the backup computer. It was down, too. “I wasn’t panicky,” she
said, “and then I noticed my cordless phone didn’t work.” That was, she
said, the beginning of the worst 10 days of her career. ... Cyberattacks
on America’s health systems have become their own kind of pandemic over
the past year as Russian cybercriminals have shut down clinical trials
and treatment studies for the coronavirus vaccine and cut off hospitals’
access to patient records, demanding multimillion-dollar ransoms for
their return. ... Administrators at the University of Vermont Health
Network acknowledge that restoring services proved far more challenging
than they expected. “If you look at what some other hospitals have gone
through, it was days, not weeks,” said Al Gobeille, the system’s
executive vice president for operations. “We thought that was what this
would be. And we were wrong.” He said a large number of professionals on
information technology — 300 hospital employees, plus 10 members of the
National Guard — were deployed to rebuild and clean 1,300 servers and
5,000 laptops and desktop computers. A team of seven F.B.I.
investigators was on site for two days after the shutdown, he said, but
has had little to no contact with administrators since then. With the
restoration of the electronic patient record system, he said, the
hospital’s systems are 75 to 80 percent recovered."

I'm guessing UVM uses mostly Windows?
https://www.med.uvm.edu/techservices/computerhardware
"Starting in January of 2020, 

Re: New animated video: Fight to Repair

[Paul Sutton via libreplanet-discuss]

On 16/01/2021 10:14, quiliro wrote:

"Paul D. Fernhout"  writes:


Hi Greg,

Thanks for making this video. It makes an important point about risk and
proprietary software in a persuasive way.

As mentioned previously (2020-08-08) I did not like the last 30 seconds
of "The University of Costumed Heroes" where the FSF-oriented "hero"
kills people. By contrast, "Fight to Repair" does not have that specific
issue, as instead the villain is turned over to the police instead of
being murdered by a vigilante FSF advocate.

There is still physical violence by the hero near the end of "Fight to
Repair" which could *potentially* have ended in the death of the villain
(from being kicked off a motorcycle at high speed). Potentially -- out
of context -- such an action by the hero could be categorized as felony
assault? Although presumably in context that assault would not be
prosecuted as such as it was in defense of two other people's lives? And
in the end the villain just ended up sliding into a pile of garbage
without apparent injury from the physical assault -- which maybe is the
best one could hope for in this genre?

Of course, the police and courts can engage in state-sanctioned
violence. So, turning over a presumed criminal to police isn't entirely
a non-violent conflict-resolving act in that sense (even without things
like George Floyd tragedy). Nonetheless, involving the police or courts
is generally considered an appropriate response to lawbreaking conflict
in our society (especially compared to vigilante violence).

I continue to encourage you -- especially in light of recent events in
the USA -- to think more deeply about crafting FSF messages that avoid
explicitly or implicitly endorsing the idea that "vigilante violence is
the answer". In that sense, this video is much better than the last. But
there may still be room for improvement -- or maybe not given the genre?

In case it helps, here is a book review I did in 2009 on "The War Play
Dilemma: What Every Parent And Teacher Needs to Know" by Diane E. Levin
and  Nancy Carlsson-Paige which might provide some more context on where
I am coming from:
https://pdfernhout.net/the-war-play-dilemma.html
"The "dilemma" is about a fundamental conflict parents face when dealing
with war play. On the one hand, most parents want children to grow and
develop by working through developmental issues (like learning to deal
with conflict, learning self-control, and learning respect for
themselves and others through play, including play involving conflicts
as hands-on-learning). On the other hand, most parents want to convey
social values related to their beliefs about violence and war as ways to
solve social conflicts. The authors clearly do not say all war play is
bad, and they also point out that even a cracker can be turned into a
gun with one bite. The authors say there are no easy general answers to
this dilemma in all situations, but provide a range of options."

Most of us grew up on a steady diet of violent media -- so watching
physical assault in videos has been normalized in that sense. And it's
true that conflict is a core part of almost any story. Thinking about
ways to transcend conflicts -- especially non-violently -- can be a huge
challenge. One possible starting point:
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=non-violent+conflict+resolution

Thanks for continuing to refine the FSF message in more positive ways.


That is a very enlightening analysis.  Thank you very much for your
input Paul   .

I would like to see some good reference to non-violent examples, beyond
the classical King and Gandhi, in order to visualize what a non-violent
free software promotional video could be.




Agreed, I was thinking of a storyline such as

Video starts with text in the corner saying present day
User is operating a device, e.g laptop,  the screen flashes error and it 
turns off,


user tries to find a way to dismantle device,  and finds he / she can't
calls up manufacturer and is told she / she is not permitted to do that

device is thrown in to trash,,  video zooms out to a whole city scape 
then zooms in to a landfill, filling up with broken devices.  Date in 
corner shows a year go by with devices filling up the landfil


a message flashes on screen,it never used to be that way

the video then rewinds back, (think back to when you rewound old VCR 
tapes) with a clock date in the corner to say for example 1970s when we 
could just take stuff apart and fix it with a soldering iron


same thing happens, user is able to fix the device

fast forward back to present day + 5 years

message comes up right to repair allows us to fix devices, give them new 
life / use and is better for the environment.


Shows people fixing devices and giving to the more needy, extending life 
and swapping parts to help with the above.


also shows install of free software to refurbished devices.

Just a thought on a different storyline,  due to the environmental side 

Re: New animated video: Fight to Repair

[quiliro]

"Paul D. Fernhout"  writes:

> Hi Greg,
>
> Thanks for making this video. It makes an important point about risk and
> proprietary software in a persuasive way.
>
> As mentioned previously (2020-08-08) I did not like the last 30 seconds
> of "The University of Costumed Heroes" where the FSF-oriented "hero"
> kills people. By contrast, "Fight to Repair" does not have that specific
> issue, as instead the villain is turned over to the police instead of
> being murdered by a vigilante FSF advocate.
>
> There is still physical violence by the hero near the end of "Fight to
> Repair" which could *potentially* have ended in the death of the villain
> (from being kicked off a motorcycle at high speed). Potentially -- out
> of context -- such an action by the hero could be categorized as felony
> assault? Although presumably in context that assault would not be
> prosecuted as such as it was in defense of two other people's lives? And
> in the end the villain just ended up sliding into a pile of garbage
> without apparent injury from the physical assault -- which maybe is the
> best one could hope for in this genre?
>
> Of course, the police and courts can engage in state-sanctioned
> violence. So, turning over a presumed criminal to police isn't entirely
> a non-violent conflict-resolving act in that sense (even without things
> like George Floyd tragedy). Nonetheless, involving the police or courts
> is generally considered an appropriate response to lawbreaking conflict
> in our society (especially compared to vigilante violence).
>
> I continue to encourage you -- especially in light of recent events in
> the USA -- to think more deeply about crafting FSF messages that avoid
> explicitly or implicitly endorsing the idea that "vigilante violence is
> the answer". In that sense, this video is much better than the last. But
> there may still be room for improvement -- or maybe not given the genre?
>
> In case it helps, here is a book review I did in 2009 on "The War Play
> Dilemma: What Every Parent And Teacher Needs to Know" by Diane E. Levin
> and  Nancy Carlsson-Paige which might provide some more context on where
> I am coming from:
> https://pdfernhout.net/the-war-play-dilemma.html
> "The "dilemma" is about a fundamental conflict parents face when dealing
> with war play. On the one hand, most parents want children to grow and
> develop by working through developmental issues (like learning to deal
> with conflict, learning self-control, and learning respect for
> themselves and others through play, including play involving conflicts
> as hands-on-learning). On the other hand, most parents want to convey
> social values related to their beliefs about violence and war as ways to
> solve social conflicts. The authors clearly do not say all war play is
> bad, and they also point out that even a cracker can be turned into a
> gun with one bite. The authors say there are no easy general answers to
> this dilemma in all situations, but provide a range of options."
>
> Most of us grew up on a steady diet of violent media -- so watching
> physical assault in videos has been normalized in that sense. And it's
> true that conflict is a core part of almost any story. Thinking about
> ways to transcend conflicts -- especially non-violently -- can be a huge
> challenge. One possible starting point:
> https://duckduckgo.com/?q=non-violent+conflict+resolution
>
> Thanks for continuing to refine the FSF message in more positive ways.

That is a very enlightening analysis.  Thank you very much for your
input Paul   .

I would like to see some good reference to non-violent examples, beyond
the classical King and Gandhi, in order to visualize what a non-violent
free software promotional video could be.

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Re: New animated video: Fight to Repair

[Paul D. Fernhout]

Hi Greg,

Thanks for making this video. It makes an important point about risk and
proprietary software in a persuasive way.

As mentioned previously (2020-08-08) I did not like the last 30 seconds
of "The University of Costumed Heroes" where the FSF-oriented "hero"
kills people. By contrast, "Fight to Repair" does not have that specific
issue, as instead the villain is turned over to the police instead of
being murdered by a vigilante FSF advocate.

There is still physical violence by the hero near the end of "Fight to
Repair" which could *potentially* have ended in the death of the villain
(from being kicked off a motorcycle at high speed). Potentially -- out
of context -- such an action by the hero could be categorized as felony
assault? Although presumably in context that assault would not be
prosecuted as such as it was in defense of two other people's lives? And
in the end the villain just ended up sliding into a pile of garbage
without apparent injury from the physical assault -- which maybe is the
best one could hope for in this genre?

Of course, the police and courts can engage in state-sanctioned
violence. So, turning over a presumed criminal to police isn't entirely
a non-violent conflict-resolving act in that sense (even without things
like George Floyd tragedy). Nonetheless, involving the police or courts
is generally considered an appropriate response to lawbreaking conflict
in our society (especially compared to vigilante violence).

I continue to encourage you -- especially in light of recent events in
the USA -- to think more deeply about crafting FSF messages that avoid
explicitly or implicitly endorsing the idea that "vigilante violence is
the answer". In that sense, this video is much better than the last. But
there may still be room for improvement -- or maybe not given the genre?

In case it helps, here is a book review I did in 2009 on "The War Play
Dilemma: What Every Parent And Teacher Needs to Know" by Diane E. Levin
and  Nancy Carlsson-Paige which might provide some more context on where
I am coming from:
https://pdfernhout.net/the-war-play-dilemma.html
"The "dilemma" is about a fundamental conflict parents face when dealing
with war play. On the one hand, most parents want children to grow and
develop by working through developmental issues (like learning to deal
with conflict, learning self-control, and learning respect for
themselves and others through play, including play involving conflicts
as hands-on-learning). On the other hand, most parents want to convey
social values related to their beliefs about violence and war as ways to
solve social conflicts. The authors clearly do not say all war play is
bad, and they also point out that even a cracker can be turned into a
gun with one bite. The authors say there are no easy general answers to
this dilemma in all situations, but provide a range of options."

Most of us grew up on a steady diet of violent media -- so watching
physical assault in videos has been normalized in that sense. And it's
true that conflict is a core part of almost any story. Thinking about
ways to transcend conflicts -- especially non-violently -- can be a huge
challenge. One possible starting point:
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=non-violent+conflict+resolution

Thanks for continuing to refine the FSF message in more positive ways.

--Paul Fernhout (pdfernhout.net)
"The biggest challenge of the 21st century is the irony of technologies
of abundance in the hands of those still thinking in terms of scarcity."

On 1/11/21 6:56 PM, Greg Farough wrote:
> Hi, everyone,
> 
> I'm happy to present a new animated video we've produced on the
> crucial need to be able to study and fix the software present in the
> tools we depend on. It has a cyberpunk vibe I hope you'll appreciate.
> Please watch "Fight to Repair," and share it with your friends.
> 
> 
> 
> -g

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Re: New animated video: Fight to Repair

[Zoe Kooyman]

Thanks for letting me know!
I fixed it

Kind regards,
Zoe

On 1/11/21 8:31 PM, quiliro wrote:
> On https://www.fsf.org/campaigns/fight-to-repair , the link to iFixit:
> https://www.repair.org/stand-up does not work.
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Re: New animated video: Fight to Repair

[quiliro]

On https://www.fsf.org/campaigns/fight-to-repair , the link to iFixit:
https://www.repair.org/stand-up does not work.

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Re: New animated video: Fight to Repair

[quiliro]

It is a great video. Congratulations!

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New animated video: Fight to Repair

[Greg Farough]

Hi, everyone,

I'm happy to present a new animated video we've produced on the
crucial need to be able to study and fix the software present in the
tools we depend on. It has a cyberpunk vibe I hope you'll appreciate.
Please watch "Fight to Repair," and share it with your friends.



-g

-- 
Greg Farough // Campaigns Manager
Free Software Foundation

Join the FSF and help us defend software freedom: https://my.fsf.org


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