Re: [LIB] cpu cache

2002-05-03 Thread neil barnes

Date: Sat, 04 May 2002 06:50:38 +
From: "neil barnes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [LIB] cpu cache

>Date: Sat, 04 May 2002 11:20:34 +0800
>From: Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: [LIB] cpu cache
>
>At 07:55 PM 3/05/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>>Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 22:52:39 -0400
>>From: "Gennadiy Tsygan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Subject: Re: [LIB] cpu cache
>>
>>Just downloaded and read L100 service manual. It says that write-back 
>>cache
>>is faster.
>
>Just download and read the Windows XP manual. It says Windows XP is faster.
>
>Sorry, I just had to slip that in for irony value ;-)
>
>

 I *knew* I was still asleep when I wrote the original comment - I got 
it backwards. Write-back only writes when the cache is flushed so on most 
programs it's quicker.

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Re: [LIB] cpu cache

2002-05-03 Thread Raymond

Date: Sat, 04 May 2002 11:20:34 +0800
From: Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [LIB] cpu cache

At 07:55 PM 3/05/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 22:52:39 -0400
>From: "Gennadiy Tsygan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: [LIB] cpu cache
>
>Just downloaded and read L100 service manual. It says that write-back cache
>is faster.

Just download and read the Windows XP manual. It says Windows XP is faster.

Sorry, I just had to slip that in for irony value ;-)


- Raymond

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Re: [LIB] win2k source directory

2002-05-03 Thread Gennadiy Tsygan

Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 23:28:30 -0400
From: "Gennadiy Tsygan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [LIB] win2k source directory

Hard drive with a large buffer will compensate for the lack of Smartdrive.
Personal experiences vary, but I stand by my words. Smartdrive helps a lot.

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Subject: Re: [LIB] win2k source directory


> Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 17:48:27 +0700
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [LIB] win2k source directory
>
> > Without smartdrive you will start setup one day and finish next!
>
> If you're talking literally, then there must be some other factors.
> I pre-copied i386 over to the new HDD in a desktop, then ran WINNT.EXE
> on my L110 (64MB, 30GB) without doing the smartdrive thing, and I was
> very surprised how quick it was.
>
> I never thought to note the exact times involved so I can't report
precisely
> how long it actually takes if you proceed immediately at every step, but
it
> wasn't more than a couple of hours from start to finish even though I kept
> wandering away and doing other things and returning later to find it
waiting
> to continue.
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Re: [LIB] Interference suppression cores

2002-05-03 Thread Gennadiy Tsygan

Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 23:37:13 -0400
From: "Gennadiy Tsygan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [LIB] Interference suppression cores

Those are to prevent high frequency noise to escape the computer and use the
power cable as an antenna to radiate in the air and interfere with nearby
devices. That's the theory. In the real life, they don't do anything useful.
I took the ugly thing off.
My Libby is much faster because of it :)


> Hi all!
>
> Is it just me or has anyone else noticed that electrical cables are,
> nowadays, starting to grow 'tumors' resembling those on data cables?
>
> Of course, I'm referring to the ferrite suppression cores that are used on
> data cables to get rid of high frequency spikes induced by EM
interference.
> I can see how they can be useful on data cables (high impedances at one or
> both ends, small currents and voltages, etc.) but I can't seem to see the
> point of them on power cables such as the power cable for the libby (by
the
> looks of things, the power cables coming with L50/70's don't have them but
> they appear from the L100 onwards).
>
> Does anyone know if they actually make an awful lot of difference? I've
> obtained a second 15V switchmode power supply which I'll be using on the
> libby in case I leave the proper libby one at work or something ... of
> course, its got no suppression core on it. I'm wondering if it might be
> wise to put one on or if its a little pointless given the low impedances
> involved ...
>
>
> - Raymond





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Re: overlay programs [LIB]

2002-05-03 Thread Gennadiy Tsygan

Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 23:24:26 -0400
From: "Gennadiy Tsygan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: overlay programs [LIB]

>
> >> I'm asking if there's a way to deliberately prevent Win'95/98 seeing
the
> >> partitions, but which would not prevent Win'2K seeing the whole drive
> >> (I'm thinking it ought to be automatic, whichever OS you choose to
boot,
> >> gets to see what is appropriate).
> >
> > I'm guessing here - but as you have to partition the disc anyway, to
allow
> > space for the hibernation, why not format the first 8G as fat32 and the
> > second 12G as HPFS (or whatever the NT file format is)?
> >
> > If you have a boot loader, W98 will never see the later partitions,
while
> > W2k will see both.
>
> Neil, I like it!  :-)
>
> > I think!
>
> Gennadiy?
>
I had drive partitioned this way when I had dual boot configuration. I
always try to avoid extra level of software, so I don't use overlay. I
guess, we all agree that the first 8GB should be FAT32, then there should a
space for emergency BIOS hibernation. Second partition can be FAT32 or NTFS,
depending on the personal preferences. No matter what you pick,  it will not
make a difference worth discussion. In either case any data for which quick
recovery is needed should be on the first partition.
I took it one step further. I formatted the hibernation space, assigned
a drive letter to it and used it for the page file and temp files. BIOS
hibernation is rare occurrence. If it will happen, I am only risking an
additional reboot, to allow Windows to rebuild the page file.
Suring the course of this discussion, I understood why BIOS hibernation
killed WinXP installed on the second partition. I thought that hibernation
data is written in the end of the first partition. In fact, BIOS reduces
maximum size of the first partition and uses space after it, still within
8.4GB, for hibernation. Thus, if the second partition starts immediately
after the first one, it gets damaged if hibernation will happen. The most
aggressive way to partition HD will be:

<---As much as BIOS allows( a little less then)8.4GB-><---64MB
empty--><---Rest of the drive>

I played safe, and left 150MB for the hibernation. I put the page file
there, so it is not really a  wasted space.
<---As much as BIOS allows - 75MB-><---150MB empty--><---Rest of the
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Re: [LIB] 50CT, 70CT and 100CT service manuals - Try again today!

2002-05-03 Thread Gennadiy Tsygan

Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 23:29:50 -0400
From: "Gennadiy Tsygan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [LIB] 50CT, 70CT and 100CT service manuals - Try again today!

David, Thank you very much!

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Subject: Re: [LIB] 50CT, 70CT and 100CT service manuals - Try again today!


> Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 11:24:24 -0700 (PDT)
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> Subject: Re: [LIB] 50CT, 70CT and 100CT service manuals - Try again today!
>
> Duh!  Gotta make sure the web server is running after the PC reboots after
a
> crash! ;_)
>
> Sorry, try again!
>
> http://160.87.24.214/l5070mm.zip
> http://160.87.24.214/l100mm.zip
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Re: [LIB] cpu cache

2002-05-03 Thread Gennadiy Tsygan

Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 22:52:39 -0400
From: "Gennadiy Tsygan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [LIB] cpu cache

Just downloaded and read L100 service manual. It says that write-back cache
is faster.

- Original Message -
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Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2002 1:57 AM
Subject: Re: [LIB] cpu cache


> Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2002 05:53:53 +
> From: "neil barnes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [LIB] cpu cache
>
>
> >Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 20:53:20 -0500
> >From: "John Musielewicz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Subject: cpu cache
> >
> >Hi
> >
> >What is the differance between the write through and write back settings
in
> >the bios? I changed mine from write back to write through and now my 70
is
> >really moving!!!
> >
>
> Write-back forces a simultaneous write to memory with every write to
cache,
> so there's a ram access delay at every write. Write-through writes to the
> cache but only writes to real memory if the space in the cache is required
> for something else, or the system shuts down, or it's told to. So it's
> usually quicker. (actually, that feels the wrong way round, but it's early
> in the morning)
>
> I wrote a long screed on what all the bios switches do which should be in
> the archive somewhere and may be helpful.
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Re: [LIB] L100 / Partitioning / Overlay / Win98 Install /

2002-05-03 Thread Raymond

Date: Sat, 04 May 2002 09:05:39 +0800
From: Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [LIB] L100 / Partitioning / Overlay / Win98 Install /
  Overclock /

At 08:55 AM 3/05/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>Date: Fri, 03 May 2002 16:43:10 +0100
>From: Iain Cairns <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: L100 / Partitioning / Overlay / Win98 Install / Overclock /
> 12.5mm HD (!!!)
>
>Hi everyone
>
>SORRY this is all in one LONG post but I thought I'd never get round to
>writing this stuff otherwise! If anyone replies, please quote paragraphs
>SELECTIVELY or the daily digest is gonna read like War & Peace(!).

Bah ... you wanna see a long post? Look up my 2 or 3 volumes on 
'Experiences doing  with a Libretto [50|100]' (no thats not the 
subject line itself but it might as well be ... hehe).


>However, luckily for me, it turns out YOU CAN! You just need to take out a
>mysterious credit card-sized slab of metal under the plastic film over the
>HD space. This is probably a vitally important slab (for heat dissipation or
>blocking radio inteference maybe?), but the Libby has worked okay without
>it, so I'm assuming it's the Toshiba equivalent of a human appendix. Even
>without the slab it's a tight squeeze, but the case will just about screw
>shut again with the HD in place.

I know the thermal management on the L100/110 is significantly more complex 
than that for the L50/70. Also note that the hard drive is a very good 
source of EM interference (noticed the audio output getting any noisier?) 
and a good source of heat. As it stands, after the hard drive in my libby 
has been running for about an hour (ghosting stuff), I take it out and its 
too hot to touch. Not only that, it STAYS too hot to hold for about a 
minute and a half ... AND MY LIBBY ISN'T EVEN OVERCLOCKED!.

Granted, it was a warm day (about 28-30ºC in the shade) but you do see what 
I'm getting at ... if you live in a warm climate (or if it gets warmer in 
summer than it is now) you'd want to watch it. Consider perhaps putting a 
thin copper shim where that plate used to be (better than nothing) and/or 
running a CPU idling program such as Rain 2.0 (I use it on my libretto and 
it seems to make a big difference to heat but minimal difference to 
performance) or any of the other such programs mentioned in the past on 
this list.


>*NOTE*: Anyone doing this should be aware of possible damage to your onboard
>memory chips, you must keep the cushioning pads in place which stop the HD
>scraping/pressing on the motherboard - see fixup.net for details.

Actually, the problem isn't so much rubbing against the chips (I assume 
you've left the plastic shield there), the problem is the pressure warping 
the motherboard.


>- Installed Win98SE with great difficulty - I only have a USB external CD
>(won't work in DOS?) and didn't have easy access to a desktop PC for popping
>the laptop HD in with an adapter (I work in a Mac-based office). Eventually
>did it by installing DOS IP drivers and FTP program (I have a Xircom PC card
>combo LAN/modem), and logging onto a Mac FTP server to copy the Win98 CD
>files over onto the Lib's HD, then installing from the HD.

Ah ... where there is a will there is a way ;-)

Having said that, I thought newer macs used IDE hard drives anyway.


>- Then used PM to drag the D partition to the END of the extended partition,
>meaning the unallocated 101 MB - my hibernation area - was now at the
>BEGINNING (sectors 16,354,233 to 16,563,014), ie just after the 7985.4 MB C
>partition recognised by the BIOS. (101MB hibernation space may be excessive
>as I only have 64 MB RAM, but best not to take chances, eh?) The 37gig D
>partition is now sector 16,563,078 and upwards.

You can create a FAT32 drive that big? Hmm ... I recall having problems 
doing that just recently. Which version of PM were you using?


>- Installed a few Lib drivers from the web, e.g. the widescreen video
>driver, and I think maybe a one to control the Lib mouse-thingy. However, I
>have refrained from putting too many of these extra Toshiba drivers on to my
>Lib, unless something obviously is not working - if it ain't broke then
>don't fix it. :) I have not for instance put on any special Tosh power
>drivers - is this the fabled fuzzy light bulb? Does anyone have a clear
>description of what all these drivers actually do and which ones are
>useful/necessary?

I find the fuzzy lightbulb useful because it lets you set 4 behaviour 
profiles (eg. how long to run the hard drive for, etc.) but not only that, 
each profile has 4 different states for battery state so you can have your 
power management behaviour change when, say, the battery gets to 50%. Its 
also a lot more convenient than the Windows power management thing. Just 
make sure you set the Windows power management to the 'Toshiba power 
management' first. Other must-have drivers include the IrDA driver and the 
audio driver.



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[LIB] Interference suppression cores

2002-05-03 Thread Raymond

Date: Sat, 04 May 2002 09:10:21 +0800
From: Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Interference suppression cores

Hi all!

Is it just me or has anyone else noticed that electrical cables are, 
nowadays, starting to grow 'tumors' resembling those on data cables?

Of course, I'm referring to the ferrite suppression cores that are used on 
data cables to get rid of high frequency spikes induced by EM interference. 
I can see how they can be useful on data cables (high impedances at one or 
both ends, small currents and voltages, etc.) but I can't seem to see the 
point of them on power cables such as the power cable for the libby (by the 
looks of things, the power cables coming with L50/70's don't have them but 
they appear from the L100 onwards).

Does anyone know if they actually make an awful lot of difference? I've 
obtained a second 15V switchmode power supply which I'll be using on the 
libby in case I leave the proper libby one at work or something ... of 
course, its got no suppression core on it. I'm wondering if it might be 
wise to put one on or if its a little pointless given the low impedances 
involved ...


- Raymond

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Re: [LIB] 50CT, 70CT and 100CT service manuals - Try again

2002-05-03 Thread Raymond

Date: Sat, 04 May 2002 09:12:44 +0800
From: Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [LIB] 50CT, 70CT and 100CT service manuals - Try again
  today!

WHEEE

*goes to kill some more trees as he prints out the entire manual*

Thanks David :-)


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Re: [LIB] Lib Sync to Palm over IR

2002-05-03 Thread Dan Baker

Date: Sat, 04 May 2002 09:07:32 +1000
From: Dan Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [LIB] Lib Sync to Palm over IR

this link got my palm v and clie 760 to sync with my lib 50 hope it
helps

www.datatone.com/~deborah/dee2tech/mobile/articles/hotsync/HotSync.html

dan

Michael Berlant wrote:

> Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 10:19:41 -0400
> From: "Michael Berlant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [LIB] Lib Sync to Palm over IR
> 
> Have you confirmed that the Palm is configured to use its iR port for
> synchronisation?  Maybe you have an American Palm and it needs to be
> synchronized instead?
> 
> Go to Home and click on HotSync.  Make sure that Local (not Modem) is chosen
> above the HotSync swirly mark (that's a technical term).  Beneath the swirly
> mark make sure that you have chosen "iR to a PC/Handheld".
> 
> Good luck.
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Ashley Allan Elsdon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Libretto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 5:40 AM
> Subject: [LIB] Lib Sync to Palm over IR
> 
> 
> 
>> I am trying to synchronise my palm to Outlook 98 using desktop to go, but
>> the every time I ask the palm to synchronise the libretto does nothing.
> 
> The
> 
>> IR monitor says that it can see the Palm, but nothing happens at all. Can
>> anyone help ?
>> 
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RE: [LIB] L100 / Partitioning / Overlay / Win98 Install / Overclock /

2002-05-03 Thread Donald T. Stewart, MD

Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 11:59:47 -0700
From: "Donald T. Stewart, MD" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [LIB] L100 / Partitioning / Overlay / Win98 Install / Overclock /

If you are into Macs, you should be sure to use Basilisk, an open-source 68k
Mac emulator. http://www.uni-mainz.de/~bauec002/B2Main.html. Works great on
a Libretto.  I used to use it for programming my Newton.  People are amazed
to see the Mac OS running on the Libretto.

Donald T. Stewart, MD

> Just for everyone's info, I thought I'd share my experiences of
> settting up
> a blank (no OS installed) Libby over recent months. Until now, I've been a
> Mac person but the Lib has forced me to get intimate with Windows and PC
> stuff!
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Re: [LIB] 50CT, 70CT and 100CT service manuals - Try again today!

2002-05-03 Thread David Chien

Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 11:24:24 -0700 (PDT)
From: David Chien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [LIB] 50CT, 70CT and 100CT service manuals - Try again today!

Duh!  Gotta make sure the web server is running after the PC reboots after a
crash! ;_) 

Sorry, try again!

http://160.87.24.214/l5070mm.zip
http://160.87.24.214/l100mm.zip

d =)

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Re: overlay programs [LIB]

2002-05-03 Thread David Chien

Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 11:20:32 -0700 (PDT)
From: David Chien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: overlay programs  [LIB]

> > Would it be possible to have a Win'2K/Win'95 dual
> boot setup (or
> > Win'2K/Win'98) where Win'2K has access to all the
> partitions on a
> > "big" HDD, but Win'95/98 just sees the
> BIOS-accessible 8GB and is
> > prevented from accessing the rest?

  piece of cake!

  Use one:
  xosl.org XOSL
  vcom.com System Commander
  powerquest.com BootMagic

  Turn off/hide partitions not in use.

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Re: [LIB] L100 / Partitioning / Overlay / Win98 Install / Overclock /

2002-05-03 Thread David

Date: Fri, 03 May 2002 17:14:56 +0100
From: David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [LIB] L100 / Partitioning / Overlay / Win98 Install / Overclock /

On Fri, 3 May 2002 08:55:10 -0700, Iain Cairns
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>However, luckily for me, it turns out YOU CAN! You just need to take out a
>mysterious credit card-sized slab of metal under the plastic film over the
>HD space.

You don't live in Antarctica, do you? I'm not that familiar with the
L100, but it sounds very much like you've removed the main heatsink
:-) I'm amazed the machine keeps running, especially since you've
overclocked it.

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Re: [LIB] L100 / Partitioning / Overlay / Win98 Install / Overclock /

2002-05-03 Thread Pres Waterman

Date: Fri, 03 May 2002 12:08:50 -0400
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Subject: Re: [LIB] L100 / Partitioning / Overlay / Win98 Install / Overclock /

Dr Xin's fixup.net (Dr Xin cracks me up - "Why
> Sony skimp on components? Bad Sony!"...  I'm going to buy a dog and call
it
> Sony, just so I can shout "Bad Sony!").


HAH!

Thanks

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[LIB] L100 / Partitioning / Overlay / Win98 Install / Overclock /

2002-05-03 Thread Iain Cairns

Date: Fri, 03 May 2002 16:43:10 +0100
From: Iain Cairns <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: L100 / Partitioning / Overlay / Win98 Install / Overclock /
12.5mm HD (!!!)

Hi everyone

SORRY this is all in one LONG post but I thought I'd never get round to
writing this stuff otherwise! If anyone replies, please quote paragraphs
SELECTIVELY or the daily digest is gonna read like War & Peace(!).

By the way, thanks to all posters to this list and to Dan/Mike for hosting
it. I've found it a fantastic source of info for setting up my second-hand
L100. Also particular thanks to David Chien's Adorable Libretto site,
amherst.co.uk's Lib site and Dr Xin's fixup.net (Dr Xin cracks me up - "Why
Sony skimp on components? Bad Sony!"...  I'm going to buy a dog and call it
Sony, just so I can shout "Bad Sony!").

Just for everyone's info, I thought I'd share my experiences of settting up
a blank (no OS installed) Libby over recent months. Until now, I've been a
Mac person but the Lib has forced me to get intimate with Windows and PC
stuff!

Firstly, I have been successfully using an IBM Travelstar 48gig 12.5mm-high
drive (model 48GH) in my L100. Has anyone got a bigger one? (Nudge nudge,
wink wink...) 

Bought the L100 second hand on ebay UK with a standard 2gig HD but wanted to
upgrade to the biggest capacity laptop drive I could find at the time,
because I wanted to use my Libby as a mobile MP3 jukebox (among other
things), and didn't want to run out of HD space any time soon.

Of course, foolishly I hadn't properly researched into the subject and
didn't fully realise that (A) the IBM HD was 12.5mm high, and (B) you can't
put a 12.5mm high HD in a Libby.

However, luckily for me, it turns out YOU CAN! You just need to take out a
mysterious credit card-sized slab of metal under the plastic film over the
HD space. This is probably a vitally important slab (for heat dissipation or
blocking radio inteference maybe?), but the Libby has worked okay without
it, so I'm assuming it's the Toshiba equivalent of a human appendix. Even
without the slab it's a tight squeeze, but the case will just about screw
shut again with the HD in place.

This means that L100/110 owners can in theory also use the newer IBM 60GB
Travelstar HD which is also 12.5mm high. Of course, since Christmas, bigger
9.5mm HDs have arrived which make it easier to 'go large'.

*NOTE*: Anyone doing this should be aware of possible damage to your onboard
memory chips, you must keep the cushioning pads in place which stop the HD
scraping/pressing on the motherboard - see fixup.net for details.

Re the ongoing partitioning debate, I set up the new 48gig HD, based on info
I gleaned from this list (details may be fuzzy as it was a few months ago):

- Updated the L100's BIOS to latest version (v8.10).

- Installed IBM Ontrack Disk Manager overlay program - v9.5.5? Suppose I
could have used EZbios but went with IBM to match the HD.

- Formatted C partition in FAT32 using a Win98 startup floppy to maximum
8meg-ish size offered. (Partition Magic now tells me this C partition goes
from physical sector 63 to 16,354,169 for a total of 7985.4 MB.)

- Installed Win98SE with great difficulty - I only have a USB external CD
(won't work in DOS?) and didn't have easy access to a desktop PC for popping
the laptop HD in with an adapter (I work in a Mac-based office). Eventually
did it by installing DOS IP drivers and FTP program (I have a Xircom PC card
combo LAN/modem), and logging onto a Mac FTP server to copy the Win98 CD
files over onto the Lib's HD, then installing from the HD.

- Then had to partition the remainder of the HD to avoid hibernation
overwrite disasters. (I only needed another big FAT32 space, no Linux/NTFS
stuff.) Using Partition Magic, created an extended primary partition in the
remaining space (37,793.5 MB). Then created a logical D partition within
this of approx size 37,692 MB, which left an unallocated space of approx 101
MB at the end of the extended partition.

- Then used PM to drag the D partition to the END of the extended partition,
meaning the unallocated 101 MB - my hibernation area - was now at the
BEGINNING (sectors 16,354,233 to 16,563,014), ie just after the 7985.4 MB C
partition recognised by the BIOS. (101MB hibernation space may be excessive
as I only have 64 MB RAM, but best not to take chances, eh?) The 37gig D
partition is now sector 16,563,078 and upwards.

- In Windows power settings, hibernation is turned OFF - I understand this
is different to *BIOS hibernation*. (This BIOS hibernation now kicks in when
the battery gets to a certain low level, and you get the nice graphic of the
Libby doing a brain dump to the HD.)

- Installed a few Lib drivers from the web, e.g. the widescreen video
driver, and I think maybe a one to control the Lib mouse-thingy. However, I
have refrained from putting too many of these extra Toshiba drivers on to my
Lib, unless something obviously is not working - if it ain't broke then
don't fix it. :) I have not fo

Re: overlay programs [LIB]

2002-05-03 Thread fubarlibretto

Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 21:45:56 +0700
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: overlay programs  [LIB]

> System Commander does just what you want.  It lets you install two
> (or more) independent OSes and then choose which one to boot from
> a boot loader.  For each OS you designate which partitions are
> visible and what their drive letters are.
>
> Long ago I used System Commander to have both English and Japanese
> Win95 on the same machine.  Each OS had "its own" C: drive, but they
> shared a common D: drive.  I kept OS-specific applications and files
> in each C: drive and common applications and files on the D: drive.

Thanks for the suggestion - sounds like an excellent alternative to
the overlay thing in the specific scenario being discussed, if no
super-simple solution (ie one which requires no additional software,
such as Neil's FAT32/NTFS idea) is applicable.



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[LIB] RE: NTFS recovery

2002-05-03 Thread Konrad . Szwab

Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 09:33:27 -0500
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: NTFS recovery

You can always boot with NTFSDOS and access the data on the NTFS partition
from DOS.
As far as defeating security, you can always use encrypted file systems
under Win2k. 

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Re: [LIB] Lib Sync to Palm over IR

2002-05-03 Thread Michael Berlant
Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 10:19:41 -0400
From: "Michael Berlant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [LIB] Lib Sync to Palm over IR

Have you confirmed that the Palm is configured to use its iR port for
synchronisation?  Maybe you have an American Palm and it needs to be
synchronized instead?

Go to Home and click on HotSync.  Make sure that Local (not Modem) is chosen
above the HotSync swirly mark (that's a technical term).  Beneath the swirly
mark make sure that you have chosen "iR to a PC/Handheld".

Good luck.


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To: "Libretto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 5:40 AM
Subject: [LIB] Lib Sync to Palm over IR



> I am trying to synchronise my palm to Outlook 98 using desktop to go, but
> the every time I ask the palm to synchronise the libretto does nothing.
The
> IR monitor says that it can see the Palm, but nothing happens at all. Can
> anyone help ?
>




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Re: overlay programs [LIB]

2002-05-03 Thread Michael Berlant

Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 09:58:30 -0400
From: "Michael Berlant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: overlay programs  [LIB]

System Commander does just what you want.  It lets you install two (or more)
independent OSes and then choose which one to boot from a boot loader.  For
each OS you designate which partitions are visible and what their drive
letters are.

Long ago I used System Commander to have both English and Japanese Win95 on
the same machine.  Each OS had "its own" C: drive, but they shared a common
D: drive.  I kept OS-specific applications and files in each C: drive and
common applications and files on the D: drive.

- Original Message -
From: "Raymond" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Libretto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 7:26 PM
Subject: Re: overlay programs [LIB]

> At 01:16 PM 2/05/2002 -0700, you wrote:
> >Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 03:06:30 +0700
> >From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Subject: Re: overlay programs  [LIB]
> >
> > >> Would it be possible to have a Win'2K/Win'95 dual
> > >> boot setup (or Win'2K/Win'98) where Win'2K has
> > >> access to all the partitions on a "big" HDD, but
> > >> Win'95/98 just sees the BIOS-accessible 8GB and
> > >> is prevented from accessing the rest?
> > >>
> > >> I'm thinking the first 8Gb could be regarded as the
> > >> space in which all "shared" data must go, the
> > >> remainder would be Win'2K exclusive data (and you
> > >> wouldn't need to do the overlay thing).
> > >
> > > It might be possible. I never tried it myself, but it
> > > would seem to make sense. With no overlay Win9x should
> > > be limited to just the 8gb portion, and never see the
> > > Win2k install or the rest of the drive.
> >
> >Nope, it's not that simple.
> >
> >Win'98 can see my entire 30GB HDD without any overlay.
> >If I used it to write to the partitions beyond 8GB, I'd expect them to
> >become corrupt.
>
> Actually that too isn't *quite* correct. Even Win95OSR2 can *see* past
> there but with the exception of partition editing tools, if you're likely
> to corrupt things it won't let you write there. Either way though, how
much
> extra effort is it to put an overlay on given things can go pear shaped
> with equal ease either way? At least an overlay has been tested to work
> well with these dual boots (Win98SE/RedHat 6.2 here for instance, NT4
> coming soon).
>
>
> >I'm asking if there's a way to deliberately prevent Win'95/98 seeing the
> >partitions, but which would not prevent Win'2K seeing the whole drive
(I'm
> >thinking it ought to be automatic, whichever OS you choose to boot, gets
to
> >see what is appropriate).
>
> That would seem a little strange to me ... after all, the point of a dual
> boot is to let 2 OS's access portions of the same data no?
>
>
> - Raymond
>




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Re: [LIB] Lib Sync to Palm over IR

2002-05-03 Thread Kevin McClelland

Date: Fri, 03 May 2002 06:42:16 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Kevin McClelland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [LIB] Lib Sync to Palm over IR

"Ashley Allan Elsdon" wrote

> 
> Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 10:42:36 +0100
> From: "Ashley Allan Elsdon"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [LIB] Lib Sync to Palm over IR
> 
> 
> I am trying to synchronise my palm to Outlook 98
using desktop to go, but
> the every time I ask the palm to synchronise the
libretto does nothing. The
> IR monitor says that it can see the Palm, but nothing
happens at all. Can
> anyone help ?

I am not that familiar with Palm syncing, but my
experience with my old TI Avigo and my current Psion
indicate it sometimes takes a couple of tweaks to get
it to work properly. I assume you are running Win98,
since you are using Outlook 98? Since your PC sees the
Palm over IR, at least your IR port is working, so far.
Does the Palm have the capability to beam individual
files, such as a sketch, word document or contact info?
You might try that first to make sure you can at least
do a rudimentary file transfer.

It has been a while since I messed with IR on a W98 pc,
but is there an option to disable picture transfer in
the IR dialog box under control panel? I know that
option has caused problems for people using IR under
Win2k with PDAs. You also might want to make certain
you have the correct virtual IR port configured on your
sync software, otherwise it may be looking for a
connection on the wired serial port instead. Hope this
helps.

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Re: [LIB] win2k source directory - who nees smartdrive ;)

2002-05-03 Thread brett

Date: Fri, 03 May 2002 20:23:26 +0900
From: brett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [LIB] win2k source directory - who nees smartdrive ;)

I never use smartdrive, seems fast enough without it.

-Brett

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 17:48:27 +0700
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [LIB] win2k source directory
>
> > Without smartdrive you will start setup one day and finish next!
>
> If you're talking literally, then there must be some other factors.
> I pre-copied i386 over to the new HDD in a desktop, then ran WINNT.EXE
> on my L110 (64MB, 30GB) without doing the smartdrive thing, and I was
> very surprised how quick it was.
>
> I never thought to note the exact times involved so I can't report precisely
> how long it actually takes if you proceed immediately at every step, but it
> wasn't more than a couple of hours from start to finish even though I kept
> wandering away and doing other things and returning later to find it waiting
> to continue.
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Re: overlay programs [LIB]

2002-05-03 Thread fubarlibretto

Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 17:49:25 +0700
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: overlay programs [LIB]

>> I'm asking if there's a way to deliberately prevent Win'95/98 seeing the
>> partitions, but which would not prevent Win'2K seeing the whole drive
>> (I'm thinking it ought to be automatic, whichever OS you choose to boot,
>> gets to see what is appropriate).
>
> I'm guessing here - but as you have to partition the disc anyway, to allow
> space for the hibernation, why not format the first 8G as fat32 and the
> second 12G as HPFS (or whatever the NT file format is)?
>
> If you have a boot loader, W98 will never see the later partitions, while
> W2k will see both.

Neil, I like it!  :-)

> I think!

Gennadiy?



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Re: [LIB] win2k source directory

2002-05-03 Thread fubarlibretto

Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 17:48:27 +0700
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [LIB] win2k source directory

> Without smartdrive you will start setup one day and finish next!

If you're talking literally, then there must be some other factors.
I pre-copied i386 over to the new HDD in a desktop, then ran WINNT.EXE
on my L110 (64MB, 30GB) without doing the smartdrive thing, and I was
very surprised how quick it was.

I never thought to note the exact times involved so I can't report precisely
how long it actually takes if you proceed immediately at every step, but it
wasn't more than a couple of hours from start to finish even though I kept
wandering away and doing other things and returning later to find it waiting
to continue.



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Re: [LIB] win2k source directory

2002-05-03 Thread neil barnes

Date: Fri, 03 May 2002 10:41:03 +
From: "neil barnes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [LIB] win2k source directory


>Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 00:19:27 -0400
>From: "Gennadiy Tsygan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: [LIB] win2k source directory
>
>
> >
> > Smartdrv helps improve disk access speeds.. Not by an awful lot though 
>in
> > my experience (but then again I've not done many installs on lower 
>specced
> > machines ...)
> >
>You are right, I don't remember it giving  big gains in regular work, back
>in the DOS days, but improvements during the first phase of NT/2000/XP 
>setup
>are HUGE. I am talking at least 5 fold. Without smartdrive you will start
>setup one day and finish next! If you set up other machines, you likely
>booted with nt/2000 CD. In this case smartdrive is loaded automatically.

Hmmm...I loaded W2k from an existing dos partition on the 70 and it ran in a 
couple of hours. Gave up cos I couldn't find a screen driver that worked :)

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Re: overlay programs [LIB]

2002-05-03 Thread neil barnes

Date: Fri, 03 May 2002 10:11:51 +
From: "neil barnes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: overlay programs [LIB]


>Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 03:06:30 +0700
>From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: overlay programs  [LIB]
>
>I'm asking if there's a way to deliberately prevent Win'95/98 seeing the
>partitions, but which would not prevent Win'2K seeing the whole drive (I'm
>thinking it ought to be automatic, whichever OS you choose to boot, gets to
>see what is appropriate).

I'm guessing here - but as you have to partition the disc anyway, to allow 
space for the hibernation, why not format the first 8G as fat32 and the 
second 12G as HPFS (or whatever the NT file format is)?

If you have a boot loader, W98 will never see the later partitions, while 
W2k will see both.

I think!

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[LIB] Lib Sync to Palm over IR

2002-05-03 Thread Ashley Allan Elsdon

Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 10:42:36 +0100
From: "Ashley Allan Elsdon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [LIB] Lib Sync to Palm over IR


I am trying to synchronise my palm to Outlook 98 using desktop to go, but
the every time I ask the palm to synchronise the libretto does nothing. The
IR monitor says that it can see the Palm, but nothing happens at all. Can
anyone help ?





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Re: [LIB] W32.Klez.gen@mm virus floating around?

2002-05-03 Thread Raymond

Date: Fri, 03 May 2002 16:17:22 +0800
From: Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [LIB] W32.Klez.gen@mm virus floating around?

GAH!

Looks like someone on this list has a computer that is spoofing MY email 
address ... I've just received more bounces claiming I sent a virus to 
other people ... problem is I've searched my hard drive for occurrences of 
their email addresses but they're not there so even if I did have the virus 
it could not have lifted their email addresses to send them to ... not to 
mention the fact that I've been running a virus scanner thats been catching 
these ... *sigh*

Well FWIW if you get an email claiming to be from [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 
a virus in it, it wasn't from me ;-)

Also, perhaps it would be a good idea for everyone on the list to scan 
their computers for this virus ... I believe Symantec (along with others no 
doubt) have links to download free programs that just scan for this virus 
and remove it if found (independently of their virus scanner software) ...


- Raymond

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[LIB] [lib] smartdrive advantages

2002-05-03 Thread Lines, Nick

Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 03:51:26 -0400
From: "Lines, Nick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [lib] smartdrive advantages

>>
>> Smartdrv helps improve disk access speeds.. Not by an awful lot though in
>> my experience (but then again I've not done many installs on lower
specced
>> machines ...)
>>
> You are right, I don't remember it giving  big gains in regular work, back
> in the DOS days, but improvements during the first phase of NT/2000/XP
setup
> are HUGE. I am talking at least 5 fold. Without smartdrive you will start
> setup one day and finish next! If you set up other machines, you likely
> booted with nt/2000 CD. In this case smartdrive is loaded automatically.

The really massive difference with smartdrive loaded is in writing
multiple small files to a directory.  At the start of the winnt 
install procedure, the percentage bar zips along.  Then after a 
few minutes it slows to a crawl when not using smartdrv.  When
running smartdrv, it zips along at a fair old rate.

Nick.



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