Re: [LIB] Soldering Voice Recognition
Date: Tue, 07 May 2002 08:11:37 +0200 From: Frans Verhaag <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [LIB] Soldering Voice Recognition Matthew Hanson wrote: > Date: Tue, 07 May 2002 00:18:12 + > From: "Matthew Hanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [LIB] Soldering Voice Recognition > > >>Raymond wrote: > >> > >>How 'bout using Voice Recognition Software - just talk to your Libby (some > >>of do already!) and tell it what to do with no need for mice, keyboards, > >>etc. > > > >Ewww ... I've got a real dislike of voice recognition software ... besides > >which if my libby actually KNEW what I was saying to it half the time it'd > >probably pack up and leave! ;-) > > I've been wondering if it'd be possible to set up voice recognition to > control MP3 playback in the car. I'd love to be able to say UP for louder > volume, DOWN for lower volume, NEXT for the next track, BACK for the > previous track, STOP, START, CUE FORWARD, CUE BACKWARD etc. Who was it that > suggested this a few months back for GPS software, and got me thinking?? I gues it was me who raised the subject then: http://www.technoir.nu/libretto/list/2002/msg00942.html http://www.commandcorp.com/incube_welcome.html -- Frans Verhaag NL ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] Soldering Voice Recognition
Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 01:21:41 -0400 From: "Clarence" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [LIB] Soldering Voice Recognition > >Quoting Matthew Hanson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> Date: Tue, 07 May 2002 00:18:12 + >> From: "Matthew Hanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Subject: Re: [LIB] Soldering Voice Recognition >> >> >> I've been wondering if it'd be possible to set up voice recognition to >> control MP3 playback in the car. I'd love to be able to say UP for louder >> volume, DOWN for lower volume, NEXT for the next track, BACK for the >> previous track, STOP, START, CUE FORWARD, CUE BACKWARD etc. Who was it that > >Very good, Matthew, the player will end up listening to itself so you'll end up >with MP3s controlling the MP3 player ... I can think of many songs that'll have >one or more of those keywords in them. > >A case of the tail wagging the dog (or perhaps the tip heating the soldering >iron)? > > >- Raymond > > Actually, I've seen a circuit (I'll see if I can find it again) that used a 68HC11, a voice-rec module, and 64k of ram. The software side was pretty complicated, if I remember correctly. Anyways, like many higher-end cellphones, it recorded the camber of the speaker's voice along with the spoken command. It also constantly polled the microphone in order to set the sampling baseline to be that of the background noise. It would then only accept commands that were so many decibels above baseline. -Clarence "The Mechanic" Harper Serving the Scarducci Family Since 1881 Get your own evilemail.com address at http://www.evilemail.com ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] Soldering Voice Recognition
Date: Mon, 6 May 2002 20:54:44 -0700 From: Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [LIB] Soldering Voice Recognition Quoting Matthew Hanson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Date: Tue, 07 May 2002 00:18:12 + > From: "Matthew Hanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [LIB] Soldering Voice Recognition > > > I've been wondering if it'd be possible to set up voice recognition to > control MP3 playback in the car. I'd love to be able to say UP for louder > volume, DOWN for lower volume, NEXT for the next track, BACK for the > previous track, STOP, START, CUE FORWARD, CUE BACKWARD etc. Who was it that Very good, Matthew, the player will end up listening to itself so you'll end up with MP3s controlling the MP3 player ... I can think of many songs that'll have one or more of those keywords in them. A case of the tail wagging the dog (or perhaps the tip heating the soldering iron)? - Raymond ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] Soldering Voice Recognition
Date: Tue, 07 May 2002 00:18:12 + From: "Matthew Hanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [LIB] Soldering Voice Recognition >>Raymond wrote: >> >>How 'bout using Voice Recognition Software - just talk to your Libby (some >>of do already!) and tell it what to do with no need for mice, keyboards, >>etc. > >Ewww ... I've got a real dislike of voice recognition software ... besides >which if my libby actually KNEW what I was saying to it half the time it'd >probably pack up and leave! ;-) I've been wondering if it'd be possible to set up voice recognition to control MP3 playback in the car. I'd love to be able to say UP for louder volume, DOWN for lower volume, NEXT for the next track, BACK for the previous track, STOP, START, CUE FORWARD, CUE BACKWARD etc. Who was it that suggested this a few months back for GPS software, and got me thinking?? M. _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] Soldering temperatures
Date: Tue, 07 May 2002 07:19:59 +0800 From: Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [LIB] Soldering temperatures At 09:10 AM 6/05/2002 -0700, you wrote: >Date: Mon, 06 May 2002 09:06:08 -0700 >From: Chester Prudhomme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: [LIB] Soldering temperatures > >Raymond wrote: > > > >Although I appreciate the image of the wearable computer why not just use > > >the EPR > > >with it's mouse/keyboard PS/2 ports? > > > > Well the L100 is already reasonably big to strap to one's waist and pass > > off as a portable CD player ... with the EPR (or even the mini dock) its > > still a little big(!). For such purposes it'd be a lot neater to have a row > > of little black connectors glued perhaps to the right hand side where one > > could plug in a chordic keyboard, mini-trackball and perhaps an external > > display of some sort ... > >How 'bout using Voice Recognition Software - just talk to your Libby (some >of do >already!) and tell it what to do with no need for mice, keyboards, etc. Ewww ... I've got a real dislike of voice recognition software ... besides which if my libby actually KNEW what I was saying to it half the time it'd probably pack up and leave! ;-) >Wow, I >really like that image - walk around wearing your computer and talking to >it...I get the strange looks already at the airport when I haul out my >L110 and >paraphenalia! *sigh* you're probably one of those people on trains that looks as if they're speaking to ghosts because they've got a wireless cellphone earpiece in the ear that you CAN'T see ... speaking of which I wonder if thats a possibility if you REALLY wanted to go voice recognition ... bluetooth headset and a bluetooth card in the libby ... I'd rather go for the cyborg look thanks ;-) >The roll-up keyboard I got has pretty good touch (and I still demand the older >electric typewriter style keyboard for word processing), maybe they've >improved the >touch recently Well I tried one a couple of weeks ago. A green rubbery thing with a 5mm keystroke ... was a nightmare to type on. I much prefer the touch of my Palm folding keyboard. >- it's a USB unit with no brand name. Ah ... this was PS/2 (and the salesman said the USB version wouldn't be out for a while) ... perhaps it was a different brand ... either way, flimsy things like that really don't work for me ... >Rather than roll it up to pack >I leave it flat in the middle somewhere of my bag and let it conform to >whatever >else goes in or I slide it unrolled into the edge of the bag along where >it zips up >as the final packing act. With the way I pack MY bag, it won't last long like that ... it gets so rough and tumble in there that everything remotely delicate gets packed into boxes. > As for chewing up batteries I almost always find an >outlet to plug the AC adapter into or use a Power Xtender in the car, >plane, etc. I >guess I don't wind up in frontier areas often where there is no power >available! I'd hardly class a lecture theatre as a frontier area (its not yet fashionable to bring laptops into lectures round here so they've not fitted the desks with data/power points yet). >After spoofing about the membraneous fullsize LCD I started thinking - why >not a >pair of monitor glasses (like those TV glasses from a few years ago?). I'm >one of >the lucky ones - I can read anything, anywhere, anytime under any >circumstances >(except underwater I suppose) and the same goes for sleeping - I get off >7-10 hour >international flights rested and ready to go, much to the chagrin of my >companions! Thats what I'm talking about with a spectacle projector ... a little projector that you clip onto your spectacles and projects an image onto the back of them. Failing that I guess one of those 'Private Eye' style monochrome eyemount displays would work and would be quite a bit cheaper ... >Raymond, you are picky but I love that, so am I! Picky no. Obsessed yes. ;-) - Raymond --- /~\ | | "Does fuzzy logic tickle?"| | ___ | "My HDD has no reverse. How do I backup?" | | /__/ +---| | / \ a y b o t | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | | HTTP://www.raybot.net| | ICQ: 31756092 | Need help? Visit #Windows98 on DALNet! | \~/ ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
[LIB] Confirmation (M020506141500)
Date: Mon, 6 May 2002 22:15:00 +0100 From: Nick Arnold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Confirmation (M020506141500) -Original Message- From: Libretto [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 10:15 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Request for Subscribe Confirmation (M020506141500) To confirm your subscribe request please reply to this message. Ensure that the reply subject contains "Confirmation (Mxxx.." from this message's subject. Thank you ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
[LIB] Interesting site
Date: Mon, 6 May 2002 15:00:45 -0500 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Interesting site http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/jabuzz/hci.pdf This guy backengineered some Toshiba laptops and got this info. I tried it on the Libretto and it doesn't seem to work using the port values he gave though. Does anyone know if the Libretto uses the HCI and what port it would use? John ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] Libretto 1100
Date: Mon, 6 May 2002 11:08:14 -0700 (PDT) From: David Chien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [LIB] Libretto 1100 Ebay.com auctions.yahoo.co.jp = adorable toshiba libretto The latest news and information for the Toshiba Libretto owner. http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - your guide to health and wellness http://health.yahoo.com ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] Soldering temperatures
Date: Mon, 06 May 2002 18:03:42 + From: "neil barnes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [LIB] Soldering temperatures >Date: Mon, 06 May 2002 08:30:37 -0400 >From: Pres Waterman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: [LIB] Soldering temperatures > >One wonders where the mini-replicators, one of which came with every >Libretto sols AFIK, wind up bfore the Librettos are sold used ;) I know where three (50 types) are... and that's where they're staying, at least till daughter brings her machine back from Argentina :) _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] Soldering temperatures
Date: Mon, 06 May 2002 12:21:10 -0400 From: Pres Waterman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [LIB] Soldering temperatures snip > > How 'bout using Voice Recognition Software - just talk to your Libby (some of do > already!) and tell it what to do with no need for mice, keyboards, etc. Wow, I > really like that image - walk around wearing your computer and talking to > it...I get the strange looks already at the airport when I haul out my L110 and > paraphenalia! snip > After spoofing about the membraneous fullsize LCD I started thinking - why not a > pair of monitor glasses (like those TV glasses from a few years ago?). I'm one of Oh yeah... you blend ;) Thanks Pres Waterman W2PW c/o Patchogue Motors, Inc. Long Island Ford and Kia dealer GO BILLS! ©¿© ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] Soldering temperatures
Date: Mon, 06 May 2002 09:06:08 -0700 From: Chester Prudhomme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [LIB] Soldering temperatures Raymond wrote: > >Although I appreciate the image of the wearable computer why not just use > >the EPR > >with it's mouse/keyboard PS/2 ports? > > Well the L100 is already reasonably big to strap to one's waist and pass > off as a portable CD player ... with the EPR (or even the mini dock) its > still a little big(!). For such purposes it'd be a lot neater to have a row > of little black connectors glued perhaps to the right hand side where one > could plug in a chordic keyboard, mini-trackball and perhaps an external > display of some sort ... How 'bout using Voice Recognition Software - just talk to your Libby (some of do already!) and tell it what to do with no need for mice, keyboards, etc. Wow, I really like that image - walk around wearing your computer and talking to it...I get the strange looks already at the airport when I haul out my L110 and paraphenalia! > >It seems like an awful lot of work to > >fabricate what's already there?! Get a small traveling optical mouse and a > >foldable > >membrane keyboard (which for my money has better "feel" and less "rattle" > >than the > >PDA units, is cheaper and packs easier with less space as well) > > Ewww ... I tried one of those out, I can't see me getting used to it ... I > can't stand a keyboard where the tactile feedback 'resistance' is linear > increasing (as opposed to the high initial and low following 'resistance' > of normal keyboards and of the stowaway) and I can't stand keyboards where > the keys don't go STRAIGHT down (the membrane keyboard I saw had keys > that'd go down sideways so your fingers would slide off mid stroke). > Besides, I'd say it would NOT be any smaller than the StowAway foldable > keyboard ... it won't be as wide but it'd be thicker and 'longer' when > rolled up, besides which it'd be ROUND, always a bad shape if you're trying > to fit it into that space in your bag or briefcase. I quite like the feel > of my palm folding keyboard (although I've got an old model ... they've > changed the mechanics in the newer ones so now they DO feel weird). > > >or get a PMCIA card > >USB hub and use USB accessories - an even cleaner, less bulky setup. > > Ya and it'll chew through the batteries like crazy plus I can't run a > wireless card then (well I COULD but I've got enough overheating problems > as it is, I make a point about always leaving the top slot empty just so I > can get some cooling in). > > >This all works > >well in my L110 with Win2K. I'm just waiting for the foldable membrane 15" LCD > >draped over my knee to add to all of this.#8~} > > Umm ... yup well I dunno about you but I like reading things flat (which is > why I'm one of those people who can't read a newspaper without a table and > can't understand how someone could read a broadsheet newspaper on a train ...) > > - Raymond The roll-up keyboard I got has pretty good touch (and I still demand the older electric typewriter style keyboard for word processing), maybe they've improved the touch recently - it's a USB unit with no brand name. Rather than roll it up to pack I leave it flat in the middle somewhere of my bag and let it conform to whatever else goes in or I slide it unrolled into the edge of the bag along where it zips up as the final packing act. As for chewing up batteries I almost always find an outlet to plug the AC adapter into or use a Power Xtender in the car, plane, etc. I guess I don't wind up in frontier areas often where there is no power available! After spoofing about the membraneous fullsize LCD I started thinking - why not a pair of monitor glasses (like those TV glasses from a few years ago?). I'm one of the lucky ones - I can read anything, anywhere, anytime under any circumstances (except underwater I suppose) and the same goes for sleeping - I get off 7-10 hour international flights rested and ready to go, much to the chagrin of my companions! Raymond, you are picky but I love that, so am I! Chester ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: adding PS2 ports/PDA keyboards to your [LIB]retto
Date: Mon, 06 May 2002 22:13:02 +0800 From: Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: adding PS2 ports/PDA keyboards to your [LIB]retto At 12:30 AM 6/05/2002 -0700, you wrote: >Date: Mon, 6 May 2002 14:23:52 +0700 >From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: adding PS2 ports/PDA keyboards to your [LIB]retto > >Seen this? >http://www.pocketopinc.com >Maybe you could "incorporate" the necessary for that instead... >Now that WOULD be cool! :-) Well judging by the fact that its only roughly twice as wide as the Palm M50X series palmtops, its not an awful lot bigger than the libby keyboard ... if you REALLY wanted one though you could just use it with the libby infrared port ... the worst that'll happen is someone would have to write a little driver for it and you may need to craft a little reflector for it (like the one they've got for the demo with the Compaq iPaq). - Raymond --- /~\ | | "Does fuzzy logic tickle?"| | ___ | "My HDD has no reverse. How do I backup?" | | /__/ +---| | / \ a y b o t | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | | HTTP://www.raybot.net| | ICQ: 31756092 | Need help? Visit #Windows98 on DALNet! | \~/ ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] Soldering temperatures
Date: Mon, 06 May 2002 06:38:21 -0700 (PDT) From: "Kevin McClelland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [LIB] Soldering temperatures > Although I appreciate the image of the wearable computer why not just use the EPR > with it's mouse/keyboard PS/2 ports? It seems like an awful lot of work to > fabricate what's already there?! Get a small traveling optical mouse and a foldable > membrane keyboard (which for my money has better "feel" and less "rattle" than the > PDA units, is cheaper and packs easier with less space as well) or get a PMCIA card > USB hub and use USB accessories - an even cleaner, less bulky setup. This all works > well in my L110 with Win2K. I'm just waiting for the foldable membrane 15" LCD > draped over my knee to add to all of this.#8~} > > Chester The EPR is too bulky and requires its own power supply in order to work. Although the minidock does have a PS2/Keyboard port on it, and should work with a Y-splitter to use both external mouse and keyboard at the same time, that is just one more thing to carry. Although I do take it on trips and such, I would be much happier with a system that did not require the dock yet allowed me to still use an external mouse and keyboard, as those are the two most frequent items that I find a use for while on a trip. If I have a lot of typing to do, a foldable full size keyboard would be a definite plus. - Get your free @Elvis e-mail account at Elvis.com! http://www.elvis.com ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Additions to the Libretto (was [LIB] Soldering temperatures)
Date: Mon, 06 May 2002 21:36:10 +0800 From: Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Additions to the Libretto (was [LIB] Soldering temperatures) At 05:35 AM 6/05/2002 -0700, you wrote: >Date: Mon, 06 May 2002 08:30:37 -0400 >From: Pres Waterman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: [LIB] Soldering temperatures > > > > It does but there's 2 problems. Firstly, mine didn't come with a >mini-dock, > >One wonders where the mini-replicators, one of which came with every >Libretto sols AFIK, wind up bfore the Librettos are sold used ;) Actually I do remember reading somewhere that in some markets, the minidock is an OPTIONAL accessory ... I'll see if I run into that same bit of documentation at some point. >IIRC Windows's accessibility options does allow for a > > serial port keyboard replacement which I might be able to convince to work >... > >Yes, and before I outfitted my small Libretto permanently with some dangling >connectors I would explore infrared keyboard/mouse... I got one years ago >and *I* could not get it going... apparently the keyboard sends scan codes >or some nonsense to an infrared receiver plugged into the actual keyboard >socket. Umm ... why go line-of-sight wireless for something like that? For a mobile device, that's even MORE clumsy than wiring the lot up. - Raymond --- /~\ | | "Does fuzzy logic tickle?"| | ___ | "My HDD has no reverse. How do I backup?" | | /__/ +---| | / \ a y b o t | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | | HTTP://www.raybot.net| | ICQ: 31756092 | Need help? Visit #Windows98 on DALNet! | \~/ ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] Soldering temperatures
Date: Mon, 06 May 2002 08:30:37 -0400 From: Pres Waterman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [LIB] Soldering temperatures > It does but there's 2 problems. Firstly, mine didn't come with a mini-dock, One wonders where the mini-replicators, one of which came with every Libretto sols AFIK, wind up bfore the Librettos are sold used ;) IIRC Windows's accessibility options does allow for a > serial port keyboard replacement which I might be able to convince to work ... Yes, and before I outfitted my small Libretto permanently with some dangling connectors I would explore infrared keyboard/mouse... I got one years ago and *I* could not get it going... apparently the keyboard sends scan codes or some nonsense to an infrared receiver plugged into the actual keyboard socket. I am willing to send mine to anyone willing to write a driver for it to test. Thanks Pres Waterman, W2PW c/o Patchogue 112 Ford//Kia 112 Long Island Ford and Kia Dealer GO BILLS! ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] Soldering temperatures
Date: Mon, 06 May 2002 19:07:43 +0800 From: Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [LIB] Soldering temperatures >Although I appreciate the image of the wearable computer why not just use >the EPR >with it's mouse/keyboard PS/2 ports? Well the L100 is already reasonably big to strap to one's waist and pass off as a portable CD player ... with the EPR (or even the mini dock) its still a little big(!). For such purposes it'd be a lot neater to have a row of little black connectors glued perhaps to the right hand side where one could plug in a chordic keyboard, mini-trackball and perhaps an external display of some sort ... >It seems like an awful lot of work to >fabricate what's already there?! Get a small traveling optical mouse and a >foldable >membrane keyboard (which for my money has better "feel" and less "rattle" >than the >PDA units, is cheaper and packs easier with less space as well) Ewww ... I tried one of those out, I can't see me getting used to it ... I can't stand a keyboard where the tactile feedback 'resistance' is linear increasing (as opposed to the high initial and low following 'resistance' of normal keyboards and of the stowaway) and I can't stand keyboards where the keys don't go STRAIGHT down (the membrane keyboard I saw had keys that'd go down sideways so your fingers would slide off mid stroke). Besides, I'd say it would NOT be any smaller than the StowAway foldable keyboard ... it won't be as wide but it'd be thicker and 'longer' when rolled up, besides which it'd be ROUND, always a bad shape if you're trying to fit it into that space in your bag or briefcase. I quite like the feel of my palm folding keyboard (although I've got an old model ... they've changed the mechanics in the newer ones so now they DO feel weird). Besides, the whole point of a wearable is that you can use it wherever, whenever. You can be typing away on a chording keyboard, with or without an external display, whilst walking, in the car, on a park bench, etc. ... lets see you do that with your rolling keyboard. >or get a PMCIA card >USB hub and use USB accessories - an even cleaner, less bulky setup. Ya and it'll chew through the batteries like crazy plus I can't run a wireless card then (well I COULD but I've got enough overheating problems as it is, I make a point about always leaving the top slot empty just so I can get some cooling in). >This all works >well in my L110 with Win2K. I'm just waiting for the foldable membrane 15" LCD >draped over my knee to add to all of this.#8~} Umm ... yup well I dunno about you but I like reading things flat (which is why I'm one of those people who can't read a newspaper without a table and can't understand how someone could read a broadsheet newspaper on a train ...) - Raymond --- /~\ | | "Does fuzzy logic tickle?"| | ___ | "My HDD has no reverse. How do I backup?" | | /__/ +---| | / \ a y b o t | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | | HTTP://www.raybot.net| | ICQ: 31756092 | Need help? Visit #Windows98 on DALNet! | \~/ ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] Soldering temperatures
Date: Mon, 06 May 2002 10:32:59 + From: "neil barnes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [LIB] Soldering temperatures >Date: Mon, 06 May 2002 00:52:44 -0700 >From: Chester Prudhomme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: [LIB] Soldering temperatures >well in my L110 with Win2K. I'm just waiting for the foldable membrane 15" >LCD >draped over my knee to add to all of this.#8~} Get 'em while they're 'ot! Drapable membrane LCDs. Don't Dali... er, I'll just get my coat :) _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] Soldering temperatures
Date: Mon, 06 May 2002 00:52:44 -0700 From: Chester Prudhomme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [LIB] Soldering temperatures Raymond wrote: > Quoting Pres Waterman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > Date: Sun, 05 May 2002 21:00:16 -0400 > > From: Pres Waterman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Subject: Re: [LIB] Soldering temperatures > > > > > > I'll be seeing if I can add a couple of PS/2 ports (mouse and keyboard), > > similar idea to that mentioned on Xin's website but I'll be trying to > > solder onto lines 95 through 98 plus the power lines on the back of the > > docking connector (I'd rather damage THAT than damage the chipset) ... > > > > Did I misread? I think the L100 HAS the mouse/PS2 on its mini-dock > > It does but there's 2 problems. Firstly, mine didn't come with a mini-dock, > only the EPR. Secondly, even if it did, thats a pretty bulky thing to have to > carry around. I'd rather cut the connector off a small mouse, replace it with a > flat connector and be able to plug it into the libby like what Xin has done. > Ditto with a little keyboard adapter (so I can commandeer a keyboard when I > need one). > > > if > > that works I'll also make an attempt at bringing out the USB lines (I'll > > have to find somewhere to take a few volts from to supply the USB power > > lines though). Anyone got any suggestions? > > > > AFIK the USB is done in the enhanced replicator. I do not believe the > > computer itself has it. But I hope for your sake I am wrong > > The EPR has the USB port and probably the USB power circuitry but I noticed > that the docking connector has USB out lines which sorta implies that the USB > smarts are actually on the libby side of the docking connector. Of course, I > don't know if there's any buffering circuitry or whatnot in the EPR ... > > I also found the serial lines on the docking connector so I might also try > bringing the serial lines out to a flat connector as well and see if I can't > get it to work with my Palm folding keyboard or a chording keyboard (imagine > strapping the libby to your belt or non-dominant forearm and typing with the > same hand using a chording keyboard ... all you'll need is a spectacle- > projection system and a couple of extra LiIon battery packs and you've got a > wearable computer!). IIRC Windows's accessibility options does allow for a > serial port keyboard replacement which I might be able to convince to work ... > I don't think I'll need an RS-232 line driver given the palm folding keyboard > is port-powered anyway. Failing that there's always the option of doing a > serial ASCII to PS/2 keyboard converter in a PIC16F84 ... hehe > > - Raymond Although I appreciate the image of the wearable computer why not just use the EPR with it's mouse/keyboard PS/2 ports? It seems like an awful lot of work to fabricate what's already there?! Get a small traveling optical mouse and a foldable membrane keyboard (which for my money has better "feel" and less "rattle" than the PDA units, is cheaper and packs easier with less space as well) or get a PMCIA card USB hub and use USB accessories - an even cleaner, less bulky setup. This all works well in my L110 with Win2K. I'm just waiting for the foldable membrane 15" LCD draped over my knee to add to all of this.#8~} Chester ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
[LIB] Libretto 1100
Date: Mon, 6 May 2002 03:28:05 -0400 From: "Jerry Bailey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Libretto 1100 Does anyone know where I can purchase a Libretto 1100, preferably with Windows 98 already installed. Many thanks Jerry ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
adding PS2 ports/PDA keyboards to your [LIB]retto
Date: Mon, 6 May 2002 14:23:52 +0700 From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: adding PS2 ports/PDA keyboards to your [LIB]retto Seen this? http://www.pocketopinc.com Maybe you could "incorporate" the necessary for that instead... Now that WOULD be cool! :-) ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
