Re: [LIB] Dual boot W2K/W98 problems on 110

2007-05-01 Thread Philip Nienhuis

Date: Tue, 01 May 2007 20:36:29 +0200
From: Philip Nienhuis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [LIB] Dual boot W2K/W98 problems on 110

Matthew Hanson wrote:

Date: Tue, 01 May 2007 02:49:53 +
From: "Matthew Hanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [LIB] Dual boot W2K/W98 problems on 110


From: Philip Nienhuis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Matthew Hanson wrote:

Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 13:25:39 -0700 (PDT)
From: Matthew Hanson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Dual boot W2K/W98 problems on 110

I just set up a Fujitsu 80GB HDD in my 110, and have W2K and W98SE dual
booting.  But I?ve been at it for few days now, and have failed to sort
problems getting audio for Margi DVD-To-Go to play in through the Lib 
speaker

in W98.  I had no problems with this on my 40GB HDD.

I?d like to reformat the W98 partition and reinstall W98, but I see 
there?s no
files in the root folder for W98 on my D:\ extended partition.  I?m 
worried
that if I reformat and reinstall W98, W2K?s boot loader my not be 
able to see

the new W98 installation.

W2K is installed on a ~4GB primary partition as C: .. and W98 is 
installed on a
~4GB extended partition D: after the W2K partition.  There is a blank 
space of

~100MB following D:, and a ~72GB E: extended data partition after that.

I see Phil?s still reading the list messages (is the server is 
working), and

hope he might now how this might work.


It's not simple as you may ruin the W2K boot stuff. This is the wrong 
installation order (W98 should be first, then W2K, but now you need to 
do it in reverse order).


I did indeed install W98 1st onto the 2nd, extended partition.  That, 
because the last time I did this I installed W98 on the 1st, 'primary' 
partition, and it seems I had problems when I had to reinstall W2K which 
had boot files installed in the C: W98 root.  Should I have installed 
W98as the 1st primary again?


I do not think that that's an essential difference. Just a matter of taste.

Make sure you can somehow boot into W2K from CD-ROM. That will allow 
you to (in a later stage) use the recovery console to run fixboot etc. 
I never did that BTW, so others may have better ideas.


I actually just booted from a W98 boot FD, and installed W98 1st from 
installation files copied earlier to the E: drive. For the W2K 
installation, I ran smartdrv.exe after running the W98 boot FD, and put 
it on the 1st primary drive.  Perhaps I should have done a bit more 
research before that.  Is it imperative that I boot from a CD?  (In a 
PC?)  Which should be on the 1st partition?


In a Lib1x0, you can't boot from CD. You must boot from floppies or hard 
disk.



If that's OK, simply reformat D: and reinstall W98.
Then reinstall W2K's boot stuff by booting from the CD-ROM (using the 
four floppies IRC) and then do something like repair or recovery 
console . It's not that hard, I just forgot how and what exactly.


I've gone the 'recover' route before recentlyv via running winnt.exe 
from file on E: in the past.  CD-ROM not needed?


Not if you copy the entire \I386 directory from CD-ROM to hard disk. 
Then you can install & run form hard disk. That's the way I did it, hard 
disk is much faster than CD-ROM


BTW I do not read the list very often. My Lib is decommissioned, just 
occasionally it's started up.


A guy at work has expressed interest in buying a 110.  I'm not all that 
sure that at this point it's worth it what with seemingly better 
alternatives that David Chien and others have proposed.


Oh, I do not think I'll sell my Libby. I even still have my old DEC 450 
SLC/e (50 MHz 486DX, 20 MB RAM, separate built-in keypad, easily 
swappable hard disks, ). I simply can't separate easily from good stuff.
And yes, now I have a JVC741 MP-XP (1.1 GHz Pentium-M, wifi, 100 GB HD 
(a mod), 1.2 GB RAM, ). Indeed, much better than the Libretto, and 
even better (IMHO) than the Lib U100 that has a screen can't be bent 
back more than 45 degrees AND has a highly reflective coating AND is too 
fine to be read easily from by someone who is aged 50 now.


P.




Re: [LIB] Dual boot W2K/W98 problems on 110

2007-05-01 Thread David Chien
Date: Tue, 1 May 2007 17:00:01 -0700 (PDT)
From: David Chien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [LIB] Dual boot W2K/W98 problems on 110

> W2K is installed on a ~4GB primary partition as C: .. and W98 is installed on
> a
> ~4GB extended partition D: after the W2K partition.  There is a blank space
> of
> ~100MB following D:, and a ~72GB E: extended data partition after that.

  Interesting

  I have always installed OSs into a primary partition on the HD, not the
extended.  I know that W2K/XP/etc - the newer OSs - can be happy in an extended
partition, but older OSs mostly demanded a primary partition.

  I'd make two primary paritions, with only one active and visible, the other
not active and hidden.  Install each OS into each partition, then use the W2K
loader or Partition Magic PQBOOT, etc. to select which OS to startup on bootup.

  ---

  If you can't see any files in the partition you know there are files:
  a) It's either in NTFS format so you can't see it from DOS.
  b) You may need a boot loader like EZ DRive to see the HD past a certain
point on your large HD.
  c) ? some other reason

  ---

  Don't know since I don't have your computer in front of me, but at least for
me, it's not been a problem running two W98 OSs in two primary partitions on
the L110 using PQboot to select the booting OS.

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