Re: [LIB] 16 Bit PC Card USB
Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2004 10:34:14 -0700 From: "David L. Jaffe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [LIB] 16 Bit PC Card USB So has anyone been successful in using a CF-to-USB card with a PCMCIA-to-CF adapter in a Libretto? Dave ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] 16 Bit PC Card USB
Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2004 21:03:14 -0400 From: "David Hettel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [LIB] 16 Bit PC Card USB See; http://www.ratocsystems.com/english/products/subpages/cfu1u.html http://www.twin-paradox.com/SEPDA.html http://www.interpocket.co.uk/ Google CF USB Host, sorry if that was not clear enough. David - Original Message - From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Libretto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 8:05 PM Subject: Re: [LIB] 16 Bit PC Card USB > Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2004 07:08:21 +0700 > From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [LIB] 16 Bit PC Card USB > > Warner, > The first link says that it would be ineconomical to build such device coz > card bus uses standard PCI chip > that second link I think is the other way around, that device provides > access to PCMCIA through USB Ports. > I am also unable to find the link for the CF - USB. > > so I guess there's no way to teach this old dog a new trick.. > > - Original Message - > From: "M. Warner Losh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 9:53 PM > Subject: Re: [LIB] 16 Bit PC Card USB > > > > In message: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > : Thanks Allen, but unfortunately Jochen is right, looks like it works the > > : other way around. > > : I wish I could plug-in a webcam to my L50 so it becomes a poor-man's > Vaio. > > > > I've been told of a 16-bit CF USB card for PDAs, but googling just now > > I can't find it. Why? This may have an explaination: > > > > http://lists.debian.org/debian-laptop/2004/01/msg00427.html > > > > Oh, wait, there does appear to be one: > > > > http://www.arstech.com/sdkbus.htm > > > > : Has anyone tried the Card Bus slot swap ? is it really possible ? > > > > I don't think this has been tried, nor do I think it would be easy. I > > don't know if there's even a PCI bus in the L50 and as such there's no > > place to attach the CardBus bridge necessary for the cardbus slot. > > Even if there was, one would need to bring the pci bus to some place > > that it could be used for the chip, which is very hard for all but > > professional EE folks (and even then, there are likely difficult > > electrical issues to deal with). > > > > Warner > > > > > ** > http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list > http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives > > ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- > Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be > addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text > on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe > TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- > Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest > ** > > ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] 16 Bit PC Card USB
Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2004 07:08:21 +0700 From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [LIB] 16 Bit PC Card USB Warner, The first link says that it would be ineconomical to build such device coz card bus uses standard PCI chip that second link I think is the other way around, that device provides access to PCMCIA through USB Ports. I am also unable to find the link for the CF - USB. so I guess there's no way to teach this old dog a new trick.. - Original Message - From: "M. Warner Losh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 9:53 PM Subject: Re: [LIB] 16 Bit PC Card USB > In message: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > : Thanks Allen, but unfortunately Jochen is right, looks like it works the > : other way around. > : I wish I could plug-in a webcam to my L50 so it becomes a poor-man's Vaio. > > I've been told of a 16-bit CF USB card for PDAs, but googling just now > I can't find it. Why? This may have an explaination: > > http://lists.debian.org/debian-laptop/2004/01/msg00427.html > > Oh, wait, there does appear to be one: > > http://www.arstech.com/sdkbus.htm > > : Has anyone tried the Card Bus slot swap ? is it really possible ? > > I don't think this has been tried, nor do I think it would be easy. I > don't know if there's even a PCI bus in the L50 and as such there's no > place to attach the CardBus bridge necessary for the cardbus slot. > Even if there was, one would need to bring the pci bus to some place > that it could be used for the chip, which is very hard for all but > professional EE folks (and even then, there are likely difficult > electrical issues to deal with). > > Warner ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] 16 Bit PC Card USB
Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2004 14:52:33 +0700 From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [LIB] 16 Bit PC Card USB Thanks Allen, but unfortunately Jochen is right, looks like it works the other way around. I wish I could plug-in a webcam to my L50 so it becomes a poor-man's Vaio. Has anyone tried the Card Bus slot swap ? is it really possible ? 1 Date: Sun, 30 May 2004 09:00:39 -0400 From: "Allen Berge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [LIB] 16 Bit PC Card USB I don't think it exists. You can use a Parallel-USB Cable. http://www.mcpb.com/html/usb.parll.cbl.html The think the main point of the USB adapters is for laptops with USB 1.0 to be able to use all the new highspeed stuff being made with the USB 2.0 standard. External drives, Scanners, Cameras, Network Adapters ect. - Original Message - From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Libretto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, May 30, 2004 7:15 AM Subject: [LIB] 16 Bit PC Card USB ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] 16 Bit PC Card USB
Date: Sun, 30 May 2004 10:30:11 -0700 (PDT) From: john <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [LIB] 16 Bit PC Card USB start checking used computer equipment stores or upgrade to a computer with cardbus like the 100 or 110CT. there was one made but it was never repeated. john On Sun, 30 May 2004, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Date: Sun, 30 May 2004 18:17:55 +0700 > From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: 16 Bit PC Card USB > > Hi all, > > I am looking for a 16 bit PC-Card to USB device, but the same seems to be > rare as most are 32 bit cardbus. My L50M doesnot support cardbus and will > only accept 16Bit PC-Card. > > I have tried to search on the net but unable to find for the same, please > kindly share some reference on where to find such item. > > Thanks and regards > > Istamar > > > > > ** > http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list > http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives > > ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- > Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be > addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text > on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe > TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- > Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest > ** > ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] 16 Bit PC Card USB
Date: Sun, 30 May 2004 11:04:43 -0400 From: "David Hettel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [LIB] 16 Bit PC Card USB Ok Times change and all things become possible perhaps. You can not get USB 2.0 speeds, but if USB 1.1 speeds will work do a search for CF USB (Compact Flash cards, with an adapter will fit in a PCMCIA slot) and you will find three products listed. I believe it might be possible to get one of these working **IF** the OS you are running will support a USB card. These are all designed for PocketPCs so they do not come with windows drivers. David - Original Message - From: "Raymond" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Libretto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, May 30, 2004 9:41 AM Subject: Re: [LIB] 16 Bit PC Card USB > Date: Sun, 30 May 2004 21:40:08 +0800 > From: Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [LIB] 16 Bit PC Card USB > > At 06:15 AM 30/05/2004 -0700, you wrote: > > >Date: Sun, 30 May 2004 15:12:56 +0200 (METDST) > >From: Jochen Frieling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Subject: Re: [LIB] 16 Bit PC Card USB > > > > > > > I don't think it exists. > > > > > > You can use a Parallel-USB Cable. > > > > > > http://www.mcpb.com/html/usb.parll.cbl.html > > > >Sorry, but this one converts in the wrong direction. To use it, you > >already have to have a USB port and then you can connect parallel devices. > > > >I've done hours of searching but couldn't find a PCMCIA USB controller > >either. It's too bad that folks mix up the designations and use PCMCIA for > >Cardbus. Else there would be a slight chance of finding the needle in the > >haystack---if it existed. > > Hehe it gets even worse ... IIRC, PCMCIA is actually the association that > sets the standard so technically anything set by the PCMCIA (Personal > Computer Memory Card International Association) is a PCMCIA standard. The > cards that go into laptops are called PC-Cards of which there are the plain > old 16 bit PC-Card sockets, CardBus, ZoomedVideo and so-on (actually those > are all that I can think of but anyway ...), they're ALL PCMCIA cards. See > www.pcmcia.org/about.htm if you want the history ... they also oversee the > SmartMedia standard amongst other things (so I guess you could say a > SmartMedia card IS a PCMCIA card but that'd just add to the confusion ... > hehe). > > Now as for the USB thingo, there was discussion maybe a year or so ago on > this list about the topic and IIRC the conclusion reached was that 16 bit > PC card simply didn't have the capability for USB. I'm not sure if this was > supposed to be literal or an analogy but the discussion went along the > lines that the 16 bit PC card interface is equivalent to an ISA bus and a > CardBus interface is similar to PCI in the way it works ... from what I > understand, you can't get USB host controllers hooked up to an ISA bus. > > It's a real pitty ... it'd be real nice if the little L50/70's could have > USB ... ah well ... > > > - Raymond > > --- > > > /~\ > | | "Does fuzzy logic tickle?"| > | ___ | "My HDD has no reverse. How do I backup?" | > | /__/ +---| > | / \ a y b o t | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | > | | Need help? Visit #Windows98 on DALNet! | > | ICQ: 31756092 | Libretto IRC channel #Libretto on DALNet! | > \~/ > > > > ** > http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list > http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives > > ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- > Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be > addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text > on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe > TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- > Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest > ** > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.692 / Virus Database: 453 - Release Date: 28/05/2004 > > ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] 16 Bit PC Card USB
Date: Sun, 30 May 2004 21:40:08 +0800 From: Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [LIB] 16 Bit PC Card USB At 06:15 AM 30/05/2004 -0700, you wrote: >Date: Sun, 30 May 2004 15:12:56 +0200 (METDST) >From: Jochen Frieling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: [LIB] 16 Bit PC Card USB > > > > I don't think it exists. > > > > You can use a Parallel-USB Cable. > > > > http://www.mcpb.com/html/usb.parll.cbl.html > >Sorry, but this one converts in the wrong direction. To use it, you >already have to have a USB port and then you can connect parallel devices. > >I've done hours of searching but couldn't find a PCMCIA USB controller >either. It's too bad that folks mix up the designations and use PCMCIA for >Cardbus. Else there would be a slight chance of finding the needle in the >haystack---if it existed. Hehe it gets even worse ... IIRC, PCMCIA is actually the association that sets the standard so technically anything set by the PCMCIA (Personal Computer Memory Card International Association) is a PCMCIA standard. The cards that go into laptops are called PC-Cards of which there are the plain old 16 bit PC-Card sockets, CardBus, ZoomedVideo and so-on (actually those are all that I can think of but anyway ...), they're ALL PCMCIA cards. See www.pcmcia.org/about.htm if you want the history ... they also oversee the SmartMedia standard amongst other things (so I guess you could say a SmartMedia card IS a PCMCIA card but that'd just add to the confusion ... hehe). Now as for the USB thingo, there was discussion maybe a year or so ago on this list about the topic and IIRC the conclusion reached was that 16 bit PC card simply didn't have the capability for USB. I'm not sure if this was supposed to be literal or an analogy but the discussion went along the lines that the 16 bit PC card interface is equivalent to an ISA bus and a CardBus interface is similar to PCI in the way it works ... from what I understand, you can't get USB host controllers hooked up to an ISA bus. It's a real pitty ... it'd be real nice if the little L50/70's could have USB ... ah well ... - Raymond --- /~\ | | "Does fuzzy logic tickle?"| | ___ | "My HDD has no reverse. How do I backup?" | | /__/ +---| | / \ a y b o t | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | | Need help? Visit #Windows98 on DALNet! | | ICQ: 31756092 | Libretto IRC channel #Libretto on DALNet! | \~/ ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest ** --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.692 / Virus Database: 453 - Release Date: 28/05/2004
Re: [LIB] 16 Bit PC Card USB
Date: Sun, 30 May 2004 15:12:56 +0200 (METDST) From: Jochen Frieling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [LIB] 16 Bit PC Card USB > I don't think it exists. > > You can use a Parallel-USB Cable. > > http://www.mcpb.com/html/usb.parll.cbl.html Sorry, but this one converts in the wrong direction. To use it, you already have to have a USB port and then you can connect parallel devices. I've done hours of searching but couldn't find a PCMCIA USB controller either. It's too bad that folks mix up the designations and use PCMCIA for Cardbus. Else there would be a slight chance of finding the needle in the haystack---if it existed. Jochen ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] 16 Bit PC Card USB
Date: Sun, 30 May 2004 09:00:39 -0400 From: "Allen Berge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [LIB] 16 Bit PC Card USB I don't think it exists. You can use a Parallel-USB Cable. http://www.mcpb.com/html/usb.parll.cbl.html The think the main point of the USB adapters is for laptops with USB 1.0 to be able to use all the new highspeed stuff being made with the USB 2.0 standard. External drives, Scanners, Cameras, Network Adapters ect. - Original Message - From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Libretto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, May 30, 2004 7:15 AM Subject: [LIB] 16 Bit PC Card USB > Date: Sun, 30 May 2004 18:17:55 +0700 > From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: 16 Bit PC Card USB > > Hi all, > > I am looking for a 16 bit PC-Card to USB device, but the same seems to be > rare as most are 32 bit cardbus. My L50M doesnot support cardbus and will > only accept 16Bit PC-Card. > > I have tried to search on the net but unable to find for the same, please > kindly share some reference on where to find such item. > > Thanks and regards > > Istamar > > > > > ** > http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list > http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives > > ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- > Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be > addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text > on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe > TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- > Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest > ** > ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
[LIB] 16 Bit PC Card USB
Date: Sun, 30 May 2004 18:17:55 +0700 From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: 16 Bit PC Card USB Hi all, I am looking for a 16 bit PC-Card to USB device, but the same seems to be rare as most are 32 bit cardbus. My L50M doesnot support cardbus and will only accept 16Bit PC-Card. I have tried to search on the net but unable to find for the same, please kindly share some reference on where to find such item. Thanks and regards Istamar ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
