Re: [LIB] Cell phones and Libretto

2002-04-26 Thread Cerulean Skies

Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 06:49:20 +
From: Cerulean Skies [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] Cell phones and Libretto

From: Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Well I dunno about USB, serial or PCMCIA connections but I've had
considerable success using my Nokia 8210's infrared port to connect to the
internet with my L50 and L100 ... I've also tried with a friend's 6110 (I
think it was) ... what do you wanna know?


- Raymond

Hi Raymond,

What OS are you running?  My Nokia 8290 would not connnect to my L100 
running WinME.

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Re: [LIB] Cell phones and Libretto

2002-04-26 Thread Raymond

Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2002 10:07:20 +0800
From: Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] Cell phones and Libretto

At 11:52 PM 25/04/2002 -0700, you wrote:
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 06:49:20 +
From: Cerulean Skies [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] Cell phones and Libretto

From: Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Well I dunno about USB, serial or PCMCIA connections but I've had
considerable success using my Nokia 8210's infrared port to connect to the
internet with my L50 and L100 ... I've also tried with a friend's 6110 (I
think it was) ... what do you wanna know?


- Raymond

Hi Raymond,

What OS are you running?  My Nokia 8290 would not connnect to my L100 
running WinME.

I've had success with my Librettos running Win95OSR2 and Win98SE, a Toshiba 
Tecra 500CDT running Win95, my old desktop with a homemade IrDA interface 
running Win98SE and that same desktop running Win2k (with Nokia's serial 
IrDA driver). I've not used WinME (and I make a point about not going 
anywhere near it if I can avoid it) so I'm not familiar with the IrDA stuff 
on it but from what I hear it hasn't changed much from 98 ... it might well 
just be a case of have a good play (and make sure you download and install 
the Nokia data suite even if you don't need all that stuff).


- Raymond



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Re: [LIB] Cell phones and Libretto

2002-04-24 Thread Kevin McClelland

Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 06:19:49 -0700 (PDT)
From: Kevin McClelland [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] Cell phones and Libretto

On Tue, 23 April 2002, Michael Berlant wrote

 
 Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 11:15:44 -0400
 From: Michael Berlant [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [LIB] Cell phones and Libretto
 
 Thanks for the tip.  I'll play with that on my W2k
machine.  I would really
 like to get it to work with my BJC-50 (the battery
version of your printer)
 and put the LPT cable back in the plastic bag that it
sat in for the first
 four years of its life!
 

Good luck. I have messed a little with trying to get
the IR to work under Win2K and the Canon, but have been
unsuccessful so far. Of course, I rarely use the
printer anyway, so it has not been a priority. I have
gotten it to recognize the printer through IR, but
unable to print. According to Canon they only support
IR on the BJC-85 and up under Win2K. One of the reasons
I still maintain a small Win95 boot partition on my
libretto so that I can still use older IR devices when
needed.


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Re: [LIB] Cell phones and Libretto

2002-04-24 Thread Raymond

Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 22:48:17 +0800
From: Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] Cell phones and Libretto

At 11:01 AM 23/04/2002 -0700, you wrote:
Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 12:59:43 -0500
From: Phillip Ramirez [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] Cell phones and Libretto

Well I know att compatible phones from nokia do not have the IR port =(and
I think the only 2 carriers who have gsm capable phones are voice stream and
verison.. which means you can actually connect via data mode and be able to
do tcpip networking.. all others the phone has to be used as a modem and
connect at the highest of 14.4k least thats my experiance..

How do you get 14.4k over a GSM network? I thought the max was 9600.


- Raymond

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Re: [LIB] Cell phones and Libretto

2002-04-24 Thread Raymond

Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 22:47:33 +0800
From: Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] Cell phones and Libretto

At 06:31 AM 24/04/2002 -0700, you wrote:
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 06:19:49 -0700 (PDT)
From: Kevin McClelland [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] Cell phones and Libretto

On Tue, 23 April 2002, Michael Berlant wrote

 
  Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 11:15:44 -0400
  From: Michael Berlant [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: [LIB] Cell phones and Libretto
 
  Thanks for the tip.  I'll play with that on my W2k
machine.  I would really
  like to get it to work with my BJC-50 (the battery
version of your printer)
  and put the LPT cable back in the plastic bag that it
sat in for the first
  four years of its life!
 

Consider downloading Nokia's data suite for Windows 2000 (even if you don't 
use a Nokia cellphone). If in doubt, download everything available for the 
8210 (thats the phone I've got and those are the drivers I was using on my 
old desktop under 2k) and have a hunt around in the files. Its got a serial 
driver for Win2k that gives you some of the abilities that Win9x had for 
IrDA and you might be able to rig up something to work that way.


Hope this helps!

- Raymond

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Re: [LIB] Cell phones and Libretto

2002-04-24 Thread Phillip Ramirez

Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 10:16:40 -0500
From: Phillip Ramirez [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] Cell phones and Libretto

no its a normal voice dial.. or modem dial.. no data connection. and all i
know is its painful to use it for anything other then say downloading email
and then shutting down. hard to surf..
- Original Message -
From: Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Libretto [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 9:51 AM
Subject: Re: [LIB] Cell phones and Libretto


 Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 22:48:17 +0800
 From: Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [LIB] Cell phones and Libretto

 At 11:01 AM 23/04/2002 -0700, you wrote:
 Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 12:59:43 -0500
 From: Phillip Ramirez [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [LIB] Cell phones and Libretto
 
 Well I know att compatible phones from nokia do not have the IR port
=(and
 I think the only 2 carriers who have gsm capable phones are voice stream
and
 verison.. which means you can actually connect via data mode and be able
to
 do tcpip networking.. all others the phone has to be used as a modem and
 connect at the highest of 14.4k least thats my experiance..

 How do you get 14.4k over a GSM network? I thought the max was 9600.


 - Raymond

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Re: [LIB] Cell phones and Libretto

2002-04-23 Thread Kevin McClelland

Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 06:25:20 -0700 (PDT)
From: Kevin McClelland [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] Cell phones and Libretto

On Mon, 22 April 2002, Michael Berlant wrote

 
 Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 22:04:05 -0400
 From: Michael Berlant [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [LIB] Cell phones and Libretto
 
 I have been using my Lib60 with my Motorola P7389 and
L7089 GSM phones for
 several years via IR.  I also use it via serial with
my CDMA StarTAC ST7868.
 
 It won't work, though, with Win2k via IR because
Micro$oft stopped
 supporting the older IR protocol.
 

I think Microsoft released a patch for Win2K to support
IR cell phone usage, but it only worked for that
purpose alone, and still would not support other IR
devices such as printers, PDAs, etc. I do not have an
IR enabled phone, but I have had limited success with
IRCOMM2K that emulates the old virtual port mapping to
IR. Haven't gotten it to work with my old Canon bjc-80
printer though.


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Re: [LIB] Cell phones and Libretto

2002-04-23 Thread Michael Berlant

Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 11:15:44 -0400
From: Michael Berlant [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] Cell phones and Libretto

Thanks for the tip.  I'll play with that on my W2k machine.  I would really
like to get it to work with my BJC-50 (the battery version of your printer)
and put the LPT cable back in the plastic bag that it sat in for the first
four years of its life!

- Original Message -
From: Kevin McClelland [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Libretto [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 9:27 AM
Subject: Re: [LIB] Cell phones and Libretto


 I think Microsoft released a patch for Win2K to support
 IR cell phone usage, but it only worked for that
 purpose alone, and still would not support other IR
 devices such as printers, PDAs, etc. I do not have an
 IR enabled phone, but I have had limited success with
 IRCOMM2K that emulates the old virtual port mapping to
 IR. Haven't gotten it to work with my old Canon bjc-80
 printer though.





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Re: [LIB] Cell phones and Libretto

2002-04-23 Thread Phillip Ramirez

Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 12:59:43 -0500
From: Phillip Ramirez [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] Cell phones and Libretto

Well I know att compatible phones from nokia do not have the IR port =(and
I think the only 2 carriers who have gsm capable phones are voice stream and
verison.. which means you can actually connect via data mode and be able to
do tcpip networking.. all others the phone has to be used as a modem and
connect at the highest of 14.4k least thats my experiance.. SBC might allow
it but never used the service but i have used the other 4... meaning spint
att verison and voice stream..
- Original Message -
From: Lou S [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Libretto [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 12:36 PM
Subject: Re: [LIB] Cell phones and Libretto


 Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 13:32:22 -0400
 From: Lou S [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [LIB] Cell phones and Libretto

 mike hodish wrote:

 But lou, verizon does not offer many nokia models, a source of
frustration
 to me, as I am on verizon, for their great coverage, but prefer nokia
 phones. Do you know something i don't know re nokia and verizon?
 
 Could I see a copy of their support letter re which phones do data and
are
 compatible w/ verizon.. ie cdma and analog, tri mode? thanks.

 Hi Mike, the ltr I got did not mention specifically which phones are CDMA
or
 TDMA. However a comparrison of all USA models can be found at:


http://www.nokiausa.com/phones/compare/compare_results/1,4530,phonecode%3A83
90|SRC-C,00.html
   Just click on the Service provider you want to compare, Verizon comes up
 empty it seems. I guess one could find an older phone from Nokia that did
 the job but would it be tri-mode?

 I was leaning towards Moneyrola myself. Motorola shows which are CDMA or
 TDMA, here's their URL's:

 http://commerce.motorola.com/consumer/QWhtml/phone_cdma.html
 http://commerce.motorola.com/consumer/QWhtml/phone_tdma.html

 This site mentions Nokia IR and All Libretto's, haven't read it all
 through as I found it a min ago.
 http://www.freecomms.co.uk/Ringtones/infra-red.asp

 I'll have to stop by a Verizon store and ask questions. I also emailed
 Verizon in hopes that they will be able to provide more info, maybe a new
 phone from Nokia is on the horizon.

 From the Audiovox site: Several Audiovox phones are data capable and can
 hook up to a computer. These models are: CDM135, CDM135XL, CDM4500,
CDM9000,
 CDM8000XL, CDM9100,  PCX1110XL. A data cable is needed to hook up your
 phone to your computer. It connects the phone to your serial port of your
PC
 computer.


http://www.audiovox.com/cgi-bin/ncommerce3/ExecMacro/catalog_wirelessTelepho
nes_CDMA.d2w/input?cat=596
 for more detail but nothing about IR found yet.

 If I finally get a response from Verizon, I'll let u know.

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Re: [LIB] Cell phones and Libretto

2002-04-23 Thread Phillip Ramirez

Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 13:31:33 -0500
From: Phillip Ramirez [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] Cell phones and Libretto

http://www.verizonwireless.com/internet_data/index.html
verison is cdma and does offer wireless ip calling it moble ip

http://www.voicestream.com/products/services/istream/overview.asp
i think is tdma and gsm and is called istream

http://www.mywirelesswindow.com/
cingular offers data services but is only a blackberry product or web
enabled phones and do not think it interfaces with a computer that i could
find..

now again this is for the us only

- Original Message -
From: Phillip Ramirez [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Libretto [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 1:01 PM
Subject: Re: [LIB] Cell phones and Libretto


 Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 12:59:43 -0500
 From: Phillip Ramirez [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [LIB] Cell phones and Libretto

 Well I know att compatible phones from nokia do not have the IR port
=(and
 I think the only 2 carriers who have gsm capable phones are voice stream
and
 verison.. which means you can actually connect via data mode and be able
to
 do tcpip networking.. all others the phone has to be used as a modem and
 connect at the highest of 14.4k least thats my experiance.. SBC might
allow
 it but never used the service but i have used the other 4... meaning spint
 att verison and voice stream..
 - Original Message -
 From: Lou S [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Libretto [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 12:36 PM
 Subject: Re: [LIB] Cell phones and Libretto


  Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 13:32:22 -0400
  From: Lou S [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: [LIB] Cell phones and Libretto
 
  mike hodish wrote:
 
  But lou, verizon does not offer many nokia models, a source of
 frustration
  to me, as I am on verizon, for their great coverage, but prefer nokia
  phones. Do you know something i don't know re nokia and verizon?
  
  Could I see a copy of their support letter re which phones do data and
 are
  compatible w/ verizon.. ie cdma and analog, tri mode? thanks.
 
  Hi Mike, the ltr I got did not mention specifically which phones are
CDMA
 or
  TDMA. However a comparrison of all USA models can be found at:
 
 

http://www.nokiausa.com/phones/compare/compare_results/1,4530,phonecode%3A83
 90|SRC-C,00.html
Just click on the Service provider you want to compare, Verizon comes
up
  empty it seems. I guess one could find an older phone from Nokia that
did
  the job but would it be tri-mode?
 
  I was leaning towards Moneyrola myself. Motorola shows which are CDMA or
  TDMA, here's their URL's:
 
  http://commerce.motorola.com/consumer/QWhtml/phone_cdma.html
  http://commerce.motorola.com/consumer/QWhtml/phone_tdma.html
 
  This site mentions Nokia IR and All Libretto's, haven't read it all
  through as I found it a min ago.
  http://www.freecomms.co.uk/Ringtones/infra-red.asp
 
  I'll have to stop by a Verizon store and ask questions. I also emailed
  Verizon in hopes that they will be able to provide more info, maybe a
new
  phone from Nokia is on the horizon.
 
  From the Audiovox site: Several Audiovox phones are data capable and
can
  hook up to a computer. These models are: CDM135, CDM135XL, CDM4500,
 CDM9000,
  CDM8000XL, CDM9100,  PCX1110XL. A data cable is needed to hook up your
  phone to your computer. It connects the phone to your serial port of
your
 PC
  computer.
 
 

http://www.audiovox.com/cgi-bin/ncommerce3/ExecMacro/catalog_wirelessTelepho
 nes_CDMA.d2w/input?cat=596
  for more detail but nothing about IR found yet.
 
  If I finally get a response from Verizon, I'll let u know.
 
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[LIB] Cell phones and Libretto

2002-04-22 Thread Lou S

Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 17:47:42 -0400
From: Lou S [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Cell phones and Libretto

I just spoke w/a Motorola rep who stated that their V60  V120 cell phones 
will allow USB or Serial port connections to a notebook PC using Verizon's 
service. It seems there is no Infra-red or PCMCIA connection anymore. Has 
anyone used either of these phones? Any comments on them? I'm searching out 
info on the Nokia's also and wonder if they offer any PC/Net capable CP's, 
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Re: [LIB] Cell phones and Libretto

2002-04-22 Thread Raymond

Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 07:14:15 +0800
From: Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] Cell phones and Libretto

At 02:51 PM 22/04/2002 -0700, you wrote:
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 17:47:42 -0400
From: Lou S [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Cell phones and Libretto

I just spoke w/a Motorola rep who stated that their V60  V120 cell phones 
will allow USB or Serial port connections to a notebook PC using Verizon's 
service. It seems there is no Infra-red or PCMCIA connection anymore. Has 
anyone used either of these phones? Any comments on them? I'm searching 
out info on the Nokia's also and wonder if they offer any PC/Net capable 
CP's, if anyone knows please reply. - Thanks

Well I dunno about USB, serial or PCMCIA connections but I've had 
considerable success using my Nokia 8210's infrared port to connect to the 
internet with my L50 and L100 ... I've also tried with a friend's 6110 (I 
think it was) ... what do you wanna know?


- Raymond

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Re: [LIB] Cell phones and Libretto

2002-04-22 Thread Michael Berlant
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 22:04:05 -0400
From: "Michael Berlant" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] Cell phones and Libretto

I have been using my Lib60 with my Motorola P7389 and L7089 GSM phones for
several years via IR.  I also use it via serial with my CDMA StarTAC ST7868.

It won't work, though, with Win2k via IR because Micro$oft stopped
supporting the older IR protocol.


- Original Message -
From: "Lou S" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "Libretto" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 5:51 PM
Subject: [LIB] Cell phones and Libretto


 I just spoke w/a Motorola rep who stated that their V60  V120 cell phones
 will allow USB or Serial port connections to a notebook PC using Verizon's
 service. It seems there is no Infra-red or PCMCIA connection anymore. Has
 anyone used either of these phones? Any comments on them? I'm searching
out
 info on the Nokia's also and wonder if they offer any PC/Net capable CP's,
 if anyone knows please reply. - Thanks




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Re: [LIB] Cell phones and Libretto

2002-04-22 Thread Lou S

Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 23:30:28 -0400
From: Lou S [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] Cell phones and Libretto

Well I dunno about USB, serial or PCMCIA connections but I've had
considerable success using my Nokia 8210's infrared port to connect to the 
internet with my L50 and L100 ... I've also tried with a friend's 6110 (I 
think it was) ... what do you wanna know?

- Raymond

Thanks 4 the reply Ray. I just got a two page email from Nokia concerning 
all their CP's that are capable of connecting a PC to the Net whether via 
Infrared or Nokia Data Cable. Looks like I'll have some variety when it 
comes to choosing a new CP to connect to the Net with a Libretto. But I 
still will need to contact Verizon about the availability of service, some 
problems can be encountered whether the CP is in Analog or Digital mode.

One question would be, which type of connection would be best, Infrared, 
PCMCIA, Serial, other? Data will be slow to begin with on an Analog network 
so I'd want to avoid that but Digital isn't that much faster as I recall. I 
did have to remove the Generic IRDA device on the L50 due to a conflict with 
the PCMCIA floppy drive which was using the same I/O address as I recall, 
never found a way around that. I just hope that if I enable it again, it'll 
set itself up to work properly.

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