Re: Hibernation partition on a large disk

2000-10-27 Thread Andre van Straaten

Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 19:24:12 -0500 (CDT)
From: Andre van Straaten [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Hibernation partition on a large disk

 
 I don't think BIOS creates a partition to hibernate at all. It just
write
 directly to the area where it thinks it should be.
 
What I plan to do (and the only safe method I can think of), is
to create a small Unix partition at the start of the disk, write
a bit code to fill the rest of the disk with a known byte pattern,
then run a similar bit of code to report the range of physical
addresses that have been changed after a hibernate.

It won't be quick, but it should answer the question once and for
all.
 

When I installed FreeBSD relaese 3.3 on my Toshiba Libretto 50CT notebook,
I had to generate a second raw hibernation partition. 
The raw hibernation partition generated by Windows 95 is not used by the
BIOS when hibernating in FreeBSD. Instead, the hibernation data are
written into the "/usr" slice which destroys the main partition and leaves
only a rudimentary operating system in "/root". 
This happens indepedently from having APM enabled or not as it is a BIOS
function. If you have re-compiled your kernel with the APM option, the
only difference is that you can manually hibernate before your battery is
empty. 
To avoid crashing the hibernation data into my "/usr" slice, I generated a
second raw hibernation partition from the FreeBSD installation program. 

The HD used has 4 GB.

-- avs

Andre van Straaten
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Re: Hibernation partition on a large disk

2000-10-26 Thread Digby Tarvin

Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 00:32:27 +0100 (GMT/BST)
From: Digby Tarvin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Hibernation partition on a large disk

 
 I don't think BIOS creates a partition to hibernate at all. It just write
 directly to the area where it thinks it should be.
 
What I plan to do (and the only safe method I can think of), is
to create a small Unix partition at the start of the disk, write
a bit code to fill the rest of the disk with a known byte pattern,
then run a similar bit of code to report the range of physical
addresses that have been changed after a hibernate.

It won't be quick, but it should answer the question once and for
all.

If anyone has found a good place to buy a 20G drive in the UK
(or has found a good mail-order place that ships internationally),
please let me know and I will do the test...

Regards,
DigbyT
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http://www.cthulhu.dircon.co.uk




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Re: Hibernation partition on a large disk

2000-10-25 Thread Iliano Cervesato

Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 09:01:06 -0400
From: Iliano Cervesato [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Hibernation partition on a large disk

Thanks to all of you who answered.  That was very useful!
I am going to erase my 912-1093 partition, let Windows
hibernate, and observe what it does.  Will "fdisk" be able
to see the hibernation partition?  If not, what should I
use (my disk has Windows 98, RedHat 5.2 and RedHat 6.3).

Thanks again,

Iliano.


Marshall Burke wrote:
 
 What I did was created the windows partition, then let it hibernate and it
 created the hibernation partition, than I added my other partitions, but
 this was on a Lib 50. YMMV

Lawrence Young wrote:
 
 As reported here, L100/110 BIOS can only support HDD size up to 8GB. So the
 BIOS will put hibernation data to the end of the 8GB location not the end of
 your 20GB disk. However, no body knows the exact location of the hibernation
 data.

David Chien wrote:
 
It's normal. It'll drop it just at the end of the 8GB bios limit, but
 halfway into a 20GB partition.  I'd just partition it into two pieces and let
 the Libretto hibernate all it wants in the middle.




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Hibernation partition on a large disk

2000-10-24 Thread Iliano Cervesato

Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 15:42:43 -0400
From: Iliano Cervesato [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Hibernation partition on a large disk

Hi,

I have updated the disk of my Libretto 110CT to Toshiba's new 20Gb HD.
I left 78Mb empty for hibernation at the end of the disk (although it
looks like the BIOS already takes hibernation into account when running
fdisk).

When hibernation kicks in (from Windows), it messes up one of my
Linux partitions, the one on (Linux's fdisk) units 912 to 1093.  I suspect
that hibernation writes the contents of the RAM around unit 1024 rather
than at the end of the disk.

Has anybody encountered this problem?  If I am right, what part
of my HD should I exclude (= keep as an empty partition for the benefit
of the hibernation software)?  Are there other solutions (besides disabling
hibernation from within Windows)?


Many thanks in advance,

Iliano.




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Re: Hibernation partition on a large disk

2000-10-24 Thread Lawrence Young

Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 16:13:31 -0400
From: "Lawrence Young" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Hibernation partition on a large disk


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From: "Iliano Cervesato" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "Libretto" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Hibernation partition on a large disk


 Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 15:42:43 -0400
 From: Iliano Cervesato [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Hibernation partition on a large disk

 Hi,

 I have updated the disk of my Libretto 110CT to Toshiba's new 20Gb HD.
 I left 78Mb empty for hibernation at the end of the disk (although it
 looks like the BIOS already takes hibernation into account when running
 fdisk).

 When hibernation kicks in (from Windows), it messes up one of my
 Linux partitions, the one on (Linux's fdisk) units 912 to 1093.  I suspect
 that hibernation writes the contents of the RAM around unit 1024 rather
 than at the end of the disk.

As reported here, L100/110 BIOS can only support HDD size up to 8GB. So the
BIOS will put hibernation data to the end of the 8GB location not the end of
your 20GB disk. However, no body knows the exact location of the hibernation
data.


 Has anybody encountered this problem?  If I am right, what part
 of my HD should I exclude (= keep as an empty partition for the benefit
 of the hibernation software)?  Are there other solutions (besides
disabling
 hibernation from within Windows)?


 Many thanks in advance,

 Iliano.




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RE: Hibernation partition on a large disk

2000-10-24 Thread Marshall Burke

Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 13:16:59 -0700
From: Marshall Burke [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Hibernation partition on a large disk

What I did was created the windows partition, then let it hibernate and it
created the hibernation partition, than I added my other partitions, but
this was on a Lib 50. YMMV

Marshall

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From: Iliano Cervesato [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2000 12:50 PM
To: Libretto
Subject: Hibernation partition on a large disk


Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 15:42:43 -0400
From: Iliano Cervesato [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Hibernation partition on a large disk

Hi,

I have updated the disk of my Libretto 110CT to Toshiba's new 20Gb HD.
I left 78Mb empty for hibernation at the end of the disk (although it
looks like the BIOS already takes hibernation into account when running
fdisk).

When hibernation kicks in (from Windows), it messes up one of my
Linux partitions, the one on (Linux's fdisk) units 912 to 1093.  I suspect
that hibernation writes the contents of the RAM around unit 1024 rather
than at the end of the disk.

Has anybody encountered this problem?  If I am right, what part
of my HD should I exclude (= keep as an empty partition for the benefit
of the hibernation software)?  Are there other solutions (besides disabling
hibernation from within Windows)?


Many thanks in advance,

Iliano.




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Re: Hibernation partition on a large disk

2000-10-24 Thread David Chien

Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 17:01:05 -0700 (PDT)
From: David Chien [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Hibernation partition on a large disk

 Linux partitions, the one on (Linux's fdisk) units 912 to 1093.  I suspect
 that hibernation writes the contents of the RAM around unit 1024 rather
 than at the end of the disk.


   It's normal. It'll drop it just at the end of the 8GB bios limit, but
halfway into a 20GB partition.  I'd just partition it into two pieces and let
the Libretto hibernate all it wants in the middle.

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