RE: [LIB] reconditioning batteries
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 10:46:07 -0600 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [LIB] reconditioning batteries Are you saying you can get individual 3.6 volt AA or A sized rechargeable Li-ion battery cells? Square or round? With or without the solderable tabs? If I could get three AA sized cells I could rebuild easily. Or are you buying pre-built battery packs and disassembling to get the cells out? If the first where? The Radio Shack online catalog does not list individual rechargeable li-ion cells for rebuilding a battery pack.The only lithium rechargeable cell I have ever found was the lithium metal Tadiran AA rechargeable and that is not appropriate for rebuilding because it has differant charging chariteristics than li-ion. I am not interested in doing the second- too expensive with no guarentee the cell or cells will fit or even work. I might as well buy a new battery pack or get mine rebuilt instead of going that route. John On 14 Jan 2002, at 7:29, phillip ramirez wrote: Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 09:24:09 -0600 From: phillip ramirez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [LIB] reconditioning batteries Well I havent had any trouble getting them. As have others. Really depends. Like anything that can become bombs. Yes if mistreated and put in a fire they will explode jst like a can of spray paint. You can actually buy them you jst have to kow what to look for. And Yes I have the comertial copy of the radioshack book and they do have LI-ION offered -Original Message- From: Pres Waterman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2002 11:18 PM To: Libretto Subject: Re: [LIB] reconditioning batteries Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 00:15:40 -0500 From: Pres Waterman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] reconditioning batteries You have to look online.. Or you can check a local battery shop. One other place is look at www.radioshack.com Nope. Because they become bombs when mistreated, you can't buy cells Thanks Pres Waterman, W2PW c/o 112 Motors, LLC Long Island Ford, Kia and Used Dealer GO BILLS! ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest ** _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest ** ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
RE: [LIB] reconditioning batteries
Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 09:42:49 +0800 From: Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [LIB] reconditioning batteries At 03:53 PM 16/01/2002 -0800, you wrote: Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 10:46:07 -0600 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [LIB] reconditioning batteries Are you saying you can get individual 3.6 volt AA or A sized rechargeable Li-ion battery cells? I find you have better luck just looking for LiIon battery packs of the same era as the Libretto in the clearance catalogues of various wholesalers (the local wholesalers here have a 'sale' every 2-3 months or so when they clear out all the old stuff that they've ordered in for people but who never end up buying them). Generally in my experience they've got the same cells as the original Libby ones ... the PA2441U for the Portege 300 for instance is virtually identical to the L50/70 extended battery, right down to the power connector. From what I gather, the P300 doesn't have quite the cult following of the Librettos so I'd imagine there'd be a less of a demand for their spares hence you may be able to source these packs more easily and/or cheaper than a Libretto pack. Hope this helps! - Raymond --- /~\ | | Does fuzzy logic tickle?| | ___ | My HDD has no reverse. How do I backup? | | /__/ +---| | / \ a y b o t | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | | HTTP://www.raybot.net| | ICQ: 31756092 | Need help? Visit #Windows98 on DALNet! | \~/ ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] reconditioning batteries
Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 20:49:19 -0600 From: phillip ramirez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] reconditioning batteries you can get them.. have to find them though.. check online.. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 10:46:07 -0600 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [LIB] reconditioning batteries Are you saying you can get individual 3.6 volt AA or A sized rechargeable Li-ion battery cells? Square or round? With or without the solderable tabs? If I could get three AA sized cells I could rebuild easily. Or are you buying pre-built battery packs and disassembling to get the cells out? If the first where? The Radio Shack online catalog does not list individual rechargeable li-ion cells for rebuilding a battery pack.The only lithium rechargeable cell I have ever found was the lithium metal Tadiran AA rechargeable and that is not appropriate for rebuilding because it has differant charging chariteristics than li-ion. I am not interested in doing the second- too expensive with no guarentee the cell or cells will fit or even work. I might as well buy a new battery pack or get mine rebuilt instead of going that route. John On 14 Jan 2002, at 7:29, phillip ramirez wrote: Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 09:24:09 -0600 From: phillip ramirez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [LIB] reconditioning batteries Well I havent had any trouble getting them. As have others. Really depends. Like anything that can become bombs. Yes if mistreated and put in a fire they will explode jst like a can of spray paint. You can actually buy them you jst have to kow what to look for. And Yes I have the comertial copy of the radioshack book and they do have LI-ION offered -Original Message- From: Pres Waterman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2002 11:18 PM To: Libretto Subject: Re: [LIB] reconditioning batteries Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 00:15:40 -0500 From: Pres Waterman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] reconditioning batteries You have to look online.. Or you can check a local battery shop. One other place is look at www.radioshack.com Nope. Because they become bombs when mistreated, you can't buy cells Thanks Pres Waterman, W2PW c/o 112 Motors, LLC Long Island Ford, Kia and Used Dealer GO BILLS! ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest ** _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest ** ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest ** _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do
RE: [LIB] reconditioning batteries
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 23:33:53 -0800 From: Donald T. Stewart, MD [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [LIB] reconditioning batteries -Original Message- Maha Energy makes a unit called the 777Plus ( about $70 ) that will condition and charge Nickel and Lithium technology batteries. I twisted apart the Libretto pack and cut small holes in the ends of the packs to insert wires to connect the Maha. Pres Waterman, W2PW / Pres, can you explain a little further what you did to connect the 777Plus? This sounds interesting. Donald T. Stewart, MD ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] reconditioning batteries
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 05:22:05 -0600 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] reconditioning batteries On 13 Jan 2002, at 21:18, Pres Waterman wrote: Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 00:14:16 -0500 From: Pres Waterman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] reconditioning batteries ] Where would you get new cells from? They usually don't sell li-ion to consumers. I have a few bad packs. One, a lo-cap for the L100, has one of its three cells slightly rversed ( baad ) so guess what I will do with the other 2!?!? Use them to repair ANOTHER pack! I'd use caution with mixing li-ion cells. They are supposed to be matched. On another note- can the li-ion charger in the libretto charge NiMH? Its a lot easier rebuilding with those. John ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] reconditioning batteries
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 15:54:02 -0500 From: Pres Waterman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] reconditioning batteries I'd use caution with mixing li-ion cells. They are supposed to be matched. I'd never heard this. I'll check it out, thanks On another note- can the li-ion charger in the libretto charge NiMH? Its a lot easier rebuilding with those. Nah, for 2 reasons. 1, the charger ( mostly in the pack also ) and the battery-gauge are set for LiOn, and 2 because it would be a step backwards, size/weight/capacity-wise Thanks Pres Waterman W2PW c/o Patchogue Motors, Inc. Long Island Ford and Kia dealer GO BILLS! ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
RE: [LIB] reconditioning batteries
Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2002 15:47:21 -0600 From: phillip ramirez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [LIB] reconditioning batteries Just went over this on the tp600 list ;-) yes it is possible as long as it does not have a smart chip on the battery itself. The TP's have a chip that after so many cycles it blows the chip from what others have said. But you can get new cells and try.. I would use a silver based epoxy instead of soldering on the LI-Ion battery -Original Message- From: Clarence [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2002 3:33 PM To: Libretto Subject: [LIB] reconditioning batteries Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2002 16:21:56 -0500 From: Clarence [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: reconditioning batteries So, like so many of you, Ive had my libretto for a few years and have found the battery performance degrading. With Ni-Cads, it was possible to recondition the battery (of course, with nicad, the most obvious deterioration of performance was due to memory effects). Is it possible to recondition the Libretto's Lithium ion battery? -Clarence Harper Get your own evilemail.com address at http://www.evilemail.com ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest ** _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
RE: [LIB] reconditioning batteries
Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2002 16:17:36 -0600 From: phillip ramirez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [LIB] reconditioning batteries You have to look online.. Or you can check a local battery shop. One other place is look at www.radioshack.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2002 4:03 PM To: Libretto Subject: RE: [LIB] reconditioning batteries Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2002 15:55:07 -0600 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [LIB] reconditioning batteries Where would you get new cells from? They usually don't sell li-ion to consumers. On 13 Jan 2002, at 13:53, phillip ramirez wrote: Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2002 15:47:21 -0600 From: phillip ramirez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [LIB] reconditioning batteries Just went over this on the tp600 list ;-) yes it is possible as long as it does not have a smart chip on the battery itself. The TP's have a chip that after so many cycles it blows the chip from what others have said. But you can get new cells and try.. I would use a silver based epoxy instead of soldering on the LI-Ion battery -Original Message- From: Clarence [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2002 3:33 PM To: Libretto Subject: [LIB] reconditioning batteries Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2002 16:21:56 -0500 From: Clarence [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: reconditioning batteries So, like so many of you, Ive had my libretto for a few years and have found the battery performance degrading. With Ni-Cads, it was possible to recondition the battery (of course, with nicad, the most obvious deterioration of performance was due to memory effects). Is it possible to recondition the Libretto's Lithium ion battery? -Clarence Harper Get your own evilemail.com address at http://www.evilemail.com ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest ** _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest ** ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest ** _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
RE: [LIB] reconditioning batteries
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 09:43:45 +0800 From: Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [LIB] reconditioning batteries At 02:22 PM 13/01/2002 -0800, you wrote: Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2002 16:17:36 -0600 From: phillip ramirez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [LIB] reconditioning batteries You have to look online.. Or you can check a local battery shop. One other place is look at www.radioshack.com Another place to look is in the quaterly (or however often) 'clearance specials' from your local wholesaler. Often in fact you can pick up very similar packs (I picked up a pack for a really old Portege 300 which is virtually identical to the one for the Libretto) for a fraction of the price ($7USD in this case). With these, you could probably even just cut the back off the dead Libby pack and epoxy it onto the back of the new pack (and solder the appropriate connections). (I don't say just replace the cells because the P300 pack is the size of the Libby extended battery, unless you've got an extended battery thats dead the cells won't fit!). - Raymond --- /~\ | | Does fuzzy logic tickle?| | ___ | My HDD has no reverse. How do I backup? | | /__/ +---| | / \ a y b o t | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | | HTTP://www.raybot.net| | ICQ: 31756092 | Need help? Visit #Windows98 on DALNet! | \~/ ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] reconditioning batteries
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 00:14:16 -0500 From: Pres Waterman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] reconditioning batteries ] Where would you get new cells from? They usually don't sell li-ion to consumers. I have a few bad packs. One, a lo-cap for the L100, has one of its three cells slightly rversed ( baad ) so guess what I will do with the other 2!?!? Use them to repair ANOTHER pack! Thanks Pres Waterman, W2PW c/o 112 Motors, LLC Long Island Ford, Kia and Used Dealer GO BILLS! ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] reconditioning batteries
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 00:15:40 -0500 From: Pres Waterman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] reconditioning batteries You have to look online.. Or you can check a local battery shop. One other place is look at www.radioshack.com Nope. Because they become bombs when mistreated, you can't buy cells Thanks Pres Waterman, W2PW c/o 112 Motors, LLC Long Island Ford, Kia and Used Dealer GO BILLS! ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
