Re: H Re: Was Getting screened / Currency of the realm
Date: Sun, 28 May 2000 10:14:22 EDT From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: H Re: Was Getting screened / Currency of the realm In a message dated 5/27/2000 11:50:44 PM Mountain Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > and stolen from a usenet sig: > > pieces of eight > pieces of eight > pieces of eight > pieces of nine - parroty error! > > Neil > Fine Neil, make a joke when others are sharing serious information! Mike, that was real informative, My Dad used the terms 2 bits, 4... , etc., and I knew it stood for quarters of a dollar, but was unaware of the Spanish origine. The only place I recall its' use in the everyday world is a high school cheer. "Two bits, Fours bits, Six bits, a Dollar. All for (names of school) stand up and holler." Now back to broken screens and balky hard drives. For the International Set, this is a three day weekend in the US. Memorial Day, remembering the men and women that served our country in the military. In general the first Summer holiday after school is out and a serious escape for many families. In Arizona the Weather Bureau has reserved the hottest day of the year so far for this day, Expected to reach 113 degrees F. Jim Ray, Phoenix, AZ, USA http://historic-glendale.net/granny_jean's_gifts.htm">Click here: Granny Jean's Gifts (crass commercial) Warning: Subjects with (H) may or may not contain humor. ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---UNSUBSCRIBE--- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=cmd:unsubscribe UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Use above but add DIGEST to the subject line... **
RE: H Re: Was Getting screened / Currency of the realm
Date: Sat, 27 May 2000 22:48:07 PDT From: "neil barnes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: H Re: Was Getting screened / Currency of the realm and stolen from a usenet sig: pieces of eight pieces of eight pieces of eight pieces of nine - parroty error! Neil >From: "Mike Ward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: Libretto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: Libretto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: H Re: Was Getting screened / Currency of the realm >Date: Sat, 27 May 2000 19:21:11 -0700 > >Date: Sat, 27 May 2000 22:14:52 -0400 >From: "Mike Ward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: H Re: Was Getting screened / Currency of the realm > >My wife will tell you: don't ask unless you want to know! > >According to what I remember from my teenage years as a numismatist: >Several >hundred years ago, Spain began minting a coin with a value of eight >"reales." I'm not quite sure of what a reale is, but there you go. Such >coins, whether silver or gold, came to be called "pieces of eight." I >imagine you've probably heard of that in a pirate movie or similar. Since >the reale was actually a standard of value itself, and the eight-reale coin >was substantially more valuable than your average pirate/worker might carry >around in his coin bag, the practice of cutting the coins up into >equal-size >pieces, each worth one reale, was born. Each eighth of a coin was referred >to as a "bit." Three-fourths of a coin would then be called "six bits", >one-half would be "four bits", and one-quarter would be "two bits." When >the >US began to mint its twenty-five cent coin, it was worth one quarter of an >American dollar. Hence the term "two bits" began to be applied to the coin, >simply as a common substitute for "one quarter." > >Interesting little piece of history, no? > >Mike Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---UNSUBSCRIBE--- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=cmd:unsubscribe UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Use above but add DIGEST to the subject line... **
RE: H Re: Was Getting screened / Currency of the realm
Date: Sat, 27 May 2000 22:14:52 -0400 From: "Mike Ward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: H Re: Was Getting screened / Currency of the realm My wife will tell you: don't ask unless you want to know! According to what I remember from my teenage years as a numismatist: Several hundred years ago, Spain began minting a coin with a value of eight "reales." I'm not quite sure of what a reale is, but there you go. Such coins, whether silver or gold, came to be called "pieces of eight." I imagine you've probably heard of that in a pirate movie or similar. Since the reale was actually a standard of value itself, and the eight-reale coin was substantially more valuable than your average pirate/worker might carry around in his coin bag, the practice of cutting the coins up into equal-size pieces, each worth one reale, was born. Each eighth of a coin was referred to as a "bit." Three-fourths of a coin would then be called "six bits", one-half would be "four bits", and one-quarter would be "two bits." When the US began to mint its twenty-five cent coin, it was worth one quarter of an American dollar. Hence the term "two bits" began to be applied to the coin, simply as a common substitute for "one quarter." Interesting little piece of history, no? Mike > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [snip] > > I have no idea what the following means!! > > >For Rob: > > > >US, 2 bits:? > > > >4 bits:? > > > >6 bits:? > > > > > > > ** > http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list > http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives > http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ > ---UNSUBSCRIBE--- > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=cmd:unsubscribe > UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- > Use above but add DIGEST to the subject line... > ** > __ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---UNSUBSCRIBE--- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=cmd:unsubscribe UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Use above but add DIGEST to the subject line... **
Re: H Re: Was Getting screened / Currency of the realm
Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 06:10:05 PDT From: "neil barnes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: H Re: Was Getting screened / Currency of the realm >From: "Pres Waterman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: Libretto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: Libretto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: H Re: Was Getting screened / Currency of the realm >Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 05:41:12 -0700 > >Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 08:35:52 -0400 >From: "Pres Waterman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: H Re: Was Getting screened / Currency of the realm > > > >From: "neil barnes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Subject: Re: H Re: Was Getting screened / Currency of the realm > > > >A quid is a pound...but given current value, it should be somewhere >around > >the threepenny bit mark... > > >So... the threepenny bits aren't a fixed fraction of a pound/quid? > >I mean a quarter is always one fourth of a dollar but from your statement >above I >might think that a dollar could be only worth 3 quarters which doesn't make >sense. > Nah, it's just me not making sense (as usual!) it's just that the value of the pound *today* seems to be around the value of the threepenny bit I remember as a kid, in terms of what I can buy with it. Neil >Pres Waterman W2PW >c/o Patchogue Motors, Inc. >Long Island Ford and Kia Dealer > >GO BILLS! Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---UNSUBSCRIBE--- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=cmd:unsubscribe UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Use above but add DIGEST to the subject line... **
Re: H Re: Was Getting screened / Currency of the realm
Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 08:37:40 -0400 From: "Pres Waterman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: H Re: Was Getting screened / Currency of the realm >No problem? Imagine (if you will) a young lad growing up, learning about >money for the 1st time... > >"So Mummy, five pence is five pennys, so why is six-pence two and a half >pennys?" Because I said so! Pres Waterman W2PW c/o Patchogue Motors, Inc. Long Island Ford and Kia Dealer GO BILLS! ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---UNSUBSCRIBE--- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=cmd:unsubscribe UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Use above but add DIGEST to the subject line... **
Re: H Re: Was Getting screened / Currency of the realm
Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 08:35:52 -0400 From: "Pres Waterman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: H Re: Was Getting screened / Currency of the realm >From: "neil barnes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: H Re: Was Getting screened / Currency of the realm > >A quid is a pound...but given current value, it should be somewhere around >the threepenny bit mark... So... the threepenny bits aren't a fixed fraction of a pound/quid? I mean a quarter is always one fourth of a dollar but from your statement above I might think that a dollar could be only worth 3 quarters which doesn't make sense. Pres Waterman W2PW c/o Patchogue Motors, Inc. Long Island Ford and Kia Dealer GO BILLS! ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---UNSUBSCRIBE--- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=cmd:unsubscribe UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Use above but add DIGEST to the subject line... **
Re: H Re: Was Getting screened / Currency of the realm
Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 03:39:28 PDT From: "neil barnes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: H Re: Was Getting screened / Currency of the realm Ah yes, well you have to remember the advantages of the LSD system: apart from anything else, you can divide pounds by 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 8, 10, 12, 15, 16, 20, 24, 30, 40, 48, 60, 80, and 120... in decimal, all you get is 2, 4, 5, 10, 20, 25, 50. Not half as much fun. Of course the best thing about decimalisation was that the new 2p coin was the same size and weight as the old halfpenny but worth five times as much...and vending machines couldn't tell the difference! Neil >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Reply-To: Libretto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: Libretto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: H Re: Was Getting screened / Currency of the realm >Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 01:26:11 -0700 > >Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 09:22:45 +0100 >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: H Re: Was Getting screened / Currency of the realm > > > "neil barnes" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > tmail.com> cc: > Subject: Re: H Re: Was >Getting screened / Currency of the realm > 25/05/00 21:56 > Please respond to > Libretto > > > > > > > > > >Look, it all used to be very easy: > > >a quid and a shilling make a guinea > >No problem at all...the new decimal system was so complicated it took two > > >No problem? Imagine (if you will) a young lad growing up, learning about >money for the 1st time... > >"So Mummy, five pence is five pennys, so why is six-pence two and a half >pennys?" > >( UK: Mummy / US: Mom ) > >I have no idea what the following means!! > > >For Rob: > > > >US, 2 bits:? > > > >4 bits:? > > > >6 bits:? > > > > > > >** >http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list >http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives >http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ > ---UNSUBSCRIBE--- >mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=cmd:unsubscribe > UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- >Use above but add DIGEST to the subject line... >** > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---UNSUBSCRIBE--- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=cmd:unsubscribe UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Use above but add DIGEST to the subject line... **
Re: H Re: Was Getting screened / Currency of the realm
Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 09:22:45 +0100 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: H Re: Was Getting screened / Currency of the realm "neil barnes" tmail.com> cc: Subject: Re: H Re: Was Getting screened / Currency of the realm 25/05/00 21:56 Please respond to Libretto >Look, it all used to be very easy: >a quid and a shilling make a guinea No problem at all...the new decimal system was so complicated it took two No problem? Imagine (if you will) a young lad growing up, learning about money for the 1st time... "So Mummy, five pence is five pennys, so why is six-pence two and a half pennys?" ( UK: Mummy / US: Mom ) I have no idea what the following means!! >For Rob: > >US, 2 bits:? > >4 bits:? > >6 bits:? ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---UNSUBSCRIBE--- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=cmd:unsubscribe UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Use above but add DIGEST to the subject line... **
Re: H Re: Was Getting screened / Currency of the realm
Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 00:24:08 PDT From: "neil barnes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: H Re: Was Getting screened / Currency of the realm A quid is a pound...but given current value, it should be somewhere around the threepenny bit mark... Neil >From: "Pres Waterman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: Libretto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: Libretto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: H Re: Was Getting screened / Currency of the realm >Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 14:11:21 -0700 > >Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 16:57:15 -0400 >From: "Pres Waterman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: H Re: Was Getting screened / Currency of the realm > > > > >Look, it all used to be very easy: > > > >two farthings make a halfpenny (pronounced 'hape'ny') > >two halfpennies make a penny > >[snip] > >wow > >shouldn't there be a pound in there somewhere? > >Pres Waterman W2PW >c/o Patchogue Motors, Inc. >Long Island Ford and Kia Dealer > >GO BILLS! > > > > > >** >http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list >http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives >http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ > ---UNSUBSCRIBE--- >mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=cmd:unsubscribe > UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- >Use above but add DIGEST to the subject line... >** > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---UNSUBSCRIBE--- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=cmd:unsubscribe UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Use above but add DIGEST to the subject line... **
RE: H Re: Was Getting screened / Currency of the realm
Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 17:03:37 -0500 From: "Berlant, Michael S" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: H Re: Was Getting screened / Currency of the realm Of course there is. A pound is 454/1000 of a kilogram. -Original Message- From: Pres Waterman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2000 2:11 PM To: Libretto Subject: Re: H Re: Was Getting screened / Currency of the realm >Look, it all used to be very easy: > >two farthings make a halfpenny (pronounced 'hape'ny') >two halfpennies make a penny [snip] wow shouldn't there be a pound in there somewhere? Pres Waterman W2PW c/o Patchogue Motors, Inc. Long Island Ford and Kia Dealer GO BILLS! ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---UNSUBSCRIBE--- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=cmd:unsubscribe UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Use above but add DIGEST to the subject line... **
Re: H Re: Was Getting screened / Currency of the realm
Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 16:57:15 -0400 From: "Pres Waterman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: H Re: Was Getting screened / Currency of the realm >Look, it all used to be very easy: > >two farthings make a halfpenny (pronounced 'hape'ny') >two halfpennies make a penny [snip] wow shouldn't there be a pound in there somewhere? Pres Waterman W2PW c/o Patchogue Motors, Inc. Long Island Ford and Kia Dealer GO BILLS! ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---UNSUBSCRIBE--- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=cmd:unsubscribe UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Use above but add DIGEST to the subject line... **
Re: H Re: Was Getting screened / Currency of the realm
Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 13:51:42 PDT From: "neil barnes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: H Re: Was Getting screened / Currency of the realm Look, it all used to be very easy: two farthings make a halfpenny (pronounced 'hape'ny') two halfpennies make a penny three pennies make a threepenny (thrup'ny) bit a threepenny bit and a penny make a groat two threepenny bits make a sixpenny bit, or a tanner two tanners or three groats make a shilling, or bob two shillings makes a two bob bit, or a florin a florin and a tanner make half a crown (or half a dollar when I was a kid) two half crowns make a crown two crowns make a ten bob note two ten bob notes make a quid a quid and a shilling make a guinea No problem at all...the new decimal system was so complicated it took two years to implement (and we still haven't properly got the weights and measures sorted out) And yes, there were four dollars to the pound when I were but a lad...and then that Harry Wilson went and devalued the pound... Neil (sadly remembering the days when you could take a young lady to the cinema, visit the pub, and stop for fish and chips on the way home and *still* have change for a ten bob note) p.s. as the student will clearly see from the above, three and fourpence is obviousely half of six and eightpence, which is what you get when you share a quid among three kids! (which you can't do in decimal) >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Reply-To: Libretto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: Libretto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: H Re: Was Getting screened / Currency of the realm >Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 10:36:11 -0700 > >Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 13:31:36 EDT >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: H Re: Was Getting screened / Currency of the realm > >In a message dated 5/25/2000 10:45:44 AM Mountain Daylight Time, >[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > > > Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 17:44:05 +0100 > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: H Re: Getting a new libretto screen. > > > > > > > a = millions of quids > > > b = three shillings and fourpence > > > > Now THAT's gonna confuse our left-of-atlantic friends. > > > > You might as well have said: > > "Half a crown, and three farthings" > > > > Talking of which:- Someone settle an argument, please > > > > What is a penny in US currency? > > > > Rob > > >100th of a dollar, US$0.01, one cent, copper, (except 1943 when made of >zinc) >good for making up tax on purchases only. When but a child it purchased >five >pieces of taffy wrapped in wax paper at the corner store. Now seen on the >ground at various places and only picked up by small children if their >mother >is not looking (Don't touch that, you don't know where is has been, it may >have germs on it, I just got you clean, stay that way, here let me clean >that >smug off you face, Mom spits into her hankie and performs the deed, Gads, >how >did I survive?) "Ah, yes my dear, anyone who hates kids and dogs can't be >all >bad." In my best W. C. Fields. > >Quid: now about US1.50, was US$5.00 when I learned conversions. > >Shillings:? > >Fourpence:? > >Half a crown:? > >farthings:? > >For Rob: > >US, 2 bits:? > >4 bits:? > >6 bits:? > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---UNSUBSCRIBE--- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=cmd:unsubscribe UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Use above but add DIGEST to the subject line... **
Re: H Re: Was Getting screened / Currency of the realm
Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 13:31:36 EDT From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: H Re: Was Getting screened / Currency of the realm In a message dated 5/25/2000 10:45:44 AM Mountain Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 17:44:05 +0100 > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: H Re: Getting a new libretto screen. > > > > a = millions of quids > > b = three shillings and fourpence > > Now THAT's gonna confuse our left-of-atlantic friends. > > You might as well have said: > "Half a crown, and three farthings" > > Talking of which:- Someone settle an argument, please > > What is a penny in US currency? > > Rob > 100th of a dollar, US$0.01, one cent, copper, (except 1943 when made of zinc) good for making up tax on purchases only. When but a child it purchased five pieces of taffy wrapped in wax paper at the corner store. Now seen on the ground at various places and only picked up by small children if their mother is not looking (Don't touch that, you don't know where is has been, it may have germs on it, I just got you clean, stay that way, here let me clean that smug off you face, Mom spits into her hankie and performs the deed, Gads, how did I survive?) "Ah, yes my dear, anyone who hates kids and dogs can't be all bad." In my best W. C. Fields. Quid: now about US1.50, was US$5.00 when I learned conversions. Shillings:? Fourpence:? Half a crown:? farthings:? For Rob: US, 2 bits:? 4 bits:? 6 bits:? ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---UNSUBSCRIBE--- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=cmd:unsubscribe UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Use above but add DIGEST to the subject line... **