Re: [H Re: Lib Power in Car]

2000-10-17 Thread JIM6360

Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 12:32:45 EDT
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [H Re: Lib Power in Car]

In a message dated 10/16/2000 6:57:00 PM US Mountain Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

> 
>  I'll say jolly good!  And in fact the following is an excellent example of
>  redundancy, the last two sentences saying the same thing twice.  ;-)
>  
>  >
>  > Sociology students will find the above to be of interest. 
>  > An example of a man of widely varying tastes. Exemplifying the 
>  > extremes in taste. 
>  > 
>  
>  Had to do it Jim.  Sorry  ;-)
>  
>  Tom
>  

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Re: [H Re: Lib Power in Car]

2000-10-16 Thread Tom Manson

Date: 16 Oct 00 21:52:52 EDT
From: Tom Manson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [H Re: Lib Power in Car]

I'll say jolly good!  And in fact the following is an excellent example of
redundancy, the last two sentences saying the same thing twice.  ;-)

>
> Sociology students will find the above to be of interest. 
> An example of a man of widely varying tastes. Exemplifying the 
> extremes in taste. 
> 

Had to do it Jim.  Sorry  ;-)

Tom


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RE: Lib Power in Car

2000-10-16 Thread Berlant, Michael S

Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 12:04:19 -0500
From: "Berlant, Michael S" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: Lib Power in Car

New GM cars allow for the power outlet fuses to either work on the ignition
switch or be on all the time.  Maybe Ford has the same option.

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Subject: H Re: Lib Power in Car


In a message dated 10/14/2000 11:42:38 AM US Mountain Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

> 
>  On my car (a Tempo) the Cig connector is Disconnected during start. In
fact
>  if I do NOT have the battery in the Lib it will turn off during starting.

As
>  soon as the key is released it comes back on. My Lincoln is the same as
is
>  my LeSharo Motor Home.
>  
>  

Sociology students will find the above to be of interest. An example of a
man 
of widely varying tastes. Exemplifying the extremes in taste. 

OK. Pres, it is going to take some more sessions on the couch to get these 
things straighten out.

I was amazed though that you were aware of the thread and spoke to it rather

than dragging out the Hyde Park Soapbox.

Jolly good.

Jim Ray, Phoenix, AZ, USA




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H Re: Lib Power in Car

2000-10-16 Thread JIM6360

Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 12:53:47 EDT
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: H Re: Lib Power in Car

In a message dated 10/14/2000 11:42:38 AM US Mountain Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

> 
>  On my car (a Tempo) the Cig connector is Disconnected during start. In fact
>  if I do NOT have the battery in the Lib it will turn off during starting. 
As
>  soon as the key is released it comes back on. My Lincoln is the same as is
>  my LeSharo Motor Home.
>  
>  

Sociology students will find the above to be of interest. An example of a man 
of widely varying tastes. Exemplifying the extremes in taste. 

OK. Pres, it is going to take some more sessions on the couch to get these 
things straighten out.

I was amazed though that you were aware of the thread and spoke to it rather 
than dragging out the Hyde Park Soapbox.

Jolly good.

Jim Ray, Phoenix, AZ, USA
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Re: [Re: Lib Power in Car]

2000-10-14 Thread David VanHorn

Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2000 18:32:23 -0500
From: David VanHorn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Re: Lib Power in Car]


>
>I'm curious, are "ham circles" anything like "crop circles?"  Or were you
>referring to the Amateur Radio community?
>
>Sorry David,  ;-)  I couldn't help myself.

Some people think my car communicates with aliens..




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Re: [Re: Lib Power in Car]

2000-10-14 Thread Tom Manson

Date: 14 Oct 00 18:37:58 EDT
From: Tom Manson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Re: Lib Power in Car]

David VanHorn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2000 12:57:36 -0500
> From: David VanHorn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: Lib Power in Car
> 
> 
> In ham circles, the phono plug is NEVER used for power, ...

I'm curious, are "ham circles" anything like "crop circles?"  Or were you
referring to the Amateur Radio community?  

Sorry David,  ;-)  I couldn't help myself.

Tom


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Re: Lib Power in Car

2000-10-14 Thread Pres Waterman

Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2000 14:41:29 -0400
From: "Pres Waterman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Lib Power in Car

On my car (a Tempo) the Cig connector is Disconnected during start. In fact
if I do NOT have the battery in the Lib it will turn off during starting. As
soon as the key is released it comes back on. My Lincoln is the same as is
my LeSharo Motor Home.


This is misleading. If your cigarette lighter truly goes dead during crank
it is not wired the way the factory made it.

Imports DO only make the cigarette lighter hot during run, which is annoying
when I want to charge my phone. But every Ford/Lincoln/Mercury I have come
across has the cigarete lighter socket hot all the time.

If your Libretto, connected directly to the lighter without a battery
 shudder ) goes off during cranking it is indicitive of the voltage swinging
wildly during crank.

I promise I will try to step out of this thread at this point.

Pres Waterman W2PW
c/o Patchogue Motors, Inc.
Long Island Ford and Kia dealer

GO BILLS!




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Re: Lib Power in Car

2000-10-14 Thread David VanHorn

Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2000 12:57:36 -0500
From: David VanHorn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Lib Power in Car


>
>Ok perhaps we have a miscommunication problem here. The jack end does NOT 
>short but the plug end when inserted could short the tip to ring, 
>depending on the design.


The jack shell contacting the tip on insertion can have other problems.
You momentarily connect + to the lib's ground. This is not a problem, as 
long as there are no other cables connected, and nothing connected to ground.

If there ever is such a connection, then as you insert the plug, the tip 
will  create a short, and the results... well. Anything from a spark to fire.

Also, the tip may cause a short between the shell and tip contacts on the 
jack during insertion. All plugs are not created equal in this respect.

In ham circles, the phono plug is NEVER used for power, for these reasons.

Coaxial plugs are normal, and anderson powerpoles are widely accepted as a 
standard. See the OCRACES home page for the setup standard.

All my 12V gear is now powerpoled, but the Lib isn't strictly a 12V device, 
so I haven't powerpoled it.


>In fact if I do NOT have the battery in the Lib it will turn off during 
>starting. As soon as the key is released it comes back on. My Lincoln is 
>the same as is my LeSharo Motor Home.

A tip from a former fireman. If you ever suspect fire in your motor home, 
BAIL OUT NOW.  Those things burn unbelievably fast.





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