Re: renaming Program Files folder [LIB]
Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 17:00:51 -0800 From: Renita Herrmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: renaming Program Files folder [LIB] SNURFING! I remember that. A plywood board with (or without, if you were really crazed) on the nose, straight edges...You could KILL yourself really easily. - Original Message - From: Matthew Hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Libretto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 12:20 AM Subject: Re: renaming Program Files folder [LIB] Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 08:11:33 + From: Matthew Hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: renaming Program Files folder [LIB] Date: Sat, 09 Mar 2002 15:29:55 +0800 From: Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 11:10 PM 8/03/2002 -0800, you wrote: From: Matthew Hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 09 Mar 2002 13:40:26 +0800 From: Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: renaming Program Files folder [LIB] ...I just get into the habit of treating partition conversions as a taboo subject ever since a number of my colleagues ruined their installations by doing so. Heh... I remember a while back your mentioning your aversion to using Partition Magic to make very many partition changes Raymond. You may have had a nervous breakdowns if you watched me messing around numerous times with my partitions on quite a few HDDs in the past couple of years, and really often these days on the 20GB HDD. I dare say I have used powerquest to resize the odd partition on this libby (after making real sure I could afford to lose the stuff on it) ... I was a bit scared of screwing up things in the beginning, but after one HUGE mess at the beginning, and having Powerquest walk me through the fix, I've become quite at home resizing, moving, deleting and copying partitions to make the operation of the system more functional. Ghost everything first, and all you can really loose is the HDD (which hasn't happened to me... hope I don't need to add 'yet' ;-P). And HDDs are so darned cheap (at least in terms of the US economy) and available... slap another in, Ghost back the partitions, and your back in the fast lane. Umm ... how can you damage the HDD using pmagic? I'm not quite sure just what part of the galaxy I was astral projecting to when I wrote that Raymond... Maybe it was back to when I was fixing a friend's desktop that had a huge collection of viruses on it. I don't think I was using PM, but I did something like deleting partitions or reformatting or something... and all of a sudden I had NO access to the HDD anymore. I think it was Neil who suggested I see if the manufacturer had a HDD diagnostic utility. Found that and ran it but it couldn't see the drive either. I wondered if one or all of the viruses had somehow caused mechanical failure, or my deleting partitions or reformatting or whatever it was... though most people said that was impossible. But somehow that drive went south AFTER it booted and was in the process of working fine. Now if you ask, Umm ... how can you damage the HDD DATA using pmagic? ... I'd have a nice list for you that probably conjures up visions of why people report things like: ...I just get into the habit of treating partition conversions as a taboo subject ever since a number of my colleagues ruined their installations by doing so. Sound familiar? ;-P They said I was nuts getting invloved in childish pastimes like skateboarding and snurfing (the precursor to snowboarding) back in the early 70s... and laughed when I said people would be buying their music from a computer interface to a network... so I'm pretty used to people thinking I'm nuts! I still think anyone who buys music from a computer interfaced to a network is nuts but thats just me ... heh At some point ASCAP will wake up and find out that they can still make a bigger killing at selling music online than they ever did at selling CDs, cassettes, 8 track carts, LPs and everything else combined... WHILE huge number of people trade tracks at the same time! GO CROCK HUNTER!! OK you really ARE nuts. That guy is an idiot. Thank you... Thank you. (Idiot proudly bows to appropriately stupefied and horrified audience...) _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest
Re: renaming Program Files folder [LIB]
Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 05:04:42 + From: Matthew Hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: renaming Program Files folder [LIB] Heh... yeah! You remember those huh? They were like short water skis with a little cord attached to the nose that you held in your hand. Skateboarders took to them like flies to honey in the early 70s, and eventually redesigned them into what we know as the snowboard... now an Olympic event! Surfing, motocross, BMX, skateboarding, skiing, hang glidings, ultralight people seem to have a huge population of adults who never grew up. Boys with their toys... :-) Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 17:00:51 -0800 From: Renita Herrmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] SNURFING! I remember that. A plywood board with (or without, if you were really crazed) on the nose, straight edges...You could KILL yourself really easily. - Original Message - From: Matthew Hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED] They said I was nuts getting invloved in childish pastimes like skateboarding and snurfing (the precursor to snowboarding) back in the early 70s... and laughed when I said people would be buying their music from a computer interface to a network... so I'm pretty used to people thinking I'm nuts! _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Brainwave!!! :-) - for renaming Program Files folder [LIB]
Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 22:50:14 +0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Brainwave!!! :-) - for renaming Program Files folder [LIB] Still deliberating this, as I've been too busy with other things to make a decision. However, I just had a brainwave, completely out of the blue... Suppose I re-name it to PROGRA~1 I know one good answer is going to be well just try it and see but I'd like to hear what everyone thinks will happen (because, as always, I know I'm going to learn more that way)... :-) ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: Brainwave!!! :-) - for renaming Program Files folder [LIB]
Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 12:49:52 -0500 From: Pres Waterman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Brainwave!!! :-) - for renaming Program Files folder [LIB] Subject: Brainwave!!! :-) - for renaming Program Files folder [LIB] Still deliberating this, as I've been too busy with other things to make a decision. However, I just had a brainwave, completely out of the blue... Suppose I re-name it to PROGRA~1 It's name is not really PROGRA~1 That's just how DOS interprets the long file names And why are you trying to do this, again? Thanks Pres Waterman W2PW c/o Patchogue Motors, Inc. Long Island Ford and Kia dealer GO BILLS! ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: renaming Program Files folder [LIB]
Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 08:01:40 -0500 From: Lawrence Young [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: renaming Program Files folder [LIB] - Original Message - From: Fubar Libretto [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Libretto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 08, 2002 7:25 AM Subject: renaming Program Files folder [LIB] Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2002 12:20:21 + From: Fubar Libretto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: renaming Program Files folder [LIB] I now have Win'2K up and running on the new 30GB HDD in my L110. I'm thinking about renaming Program Files to PRGFILES before I go further and start installing non-OE programs. Several web sites document the registry and related nitty-gritty, but others say it's better not to bother, citing that some (none MICROS~1 - LOL) programs may be hard-coded to look for PROGRA~1. Anybody else considered (or actually done) this? A lot of system files are under Program Files folder. It's not a good idea to rename it after installation. You will lose a lot of functionalities. ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: renaming Program Files folder [LIB]
Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 13:16:39 - From: Eyetech Technical [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: renaming Program Files folder [LIB] From: Lawrence Young [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: renaming Program Files folder [LIB] From: Fubar Libretto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: renaming Program Files folder [LIB] I now have Win'2K up and running on the new 30GB HDD in my L110. I'm thinking about renaming Program Files to PRGFILES before I go further and start installing non-OE programs. Several web sites document the registry and related nitty-gritty, but others say it's better not to bother, citing that some (none MICROS~1 - LOL) programs may be hard-coded to look for PROGRA~1. Anybody else considered (or actually done) this? A lot of system files are under Program Files folder. It's not a good idea to rename it after installation. You will lose a lot of functionalities. There is TweakUI for 9x OS's which allows you you move/rename the folder and will sort out the registry accordingly. I have used it in the past to do the same thing with the My Documents folder. Is there something similar for Win2000 ? I dont know, but Im sure that there is a lot of OS tweaking software out there somewhere. HTH Dave ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
RE: renaming Program Files folder [LIB]
Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 07:19:27 -0600 From: phillip ramirez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: renaming Program Files folder [LIB] Nortons system utilities should work shouldnt it? -Original Message- From: Eyetech Technical [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, March 08, 2002 7:26 AM To: Libretto Subject: Re: renaming Program Files folder [LIB] Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 13:16:39 - From: Eyetech Technical [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: renaming Program Files folder [LIB] From: Lawrence Young [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: renaming Program Files folder [LIB] From: Fubar Libretto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: renaming Program Files folder [LIB] I now have Win'2K up and running on the new 30GB HDD in my L110. I'm thinking about renaming Program Files to PRGFILES before I go further and start installing non-OE programs. Several web sites document the registry and related nitty-gritty, but others say it's better not to bother, citing that some (none MICROS~1 - LOL) programs may be hard-coded to look for PROGRA~1. Anybody else considered (or actually done) this? A lot of system files are under Program Files folder. It's not a good idea to rename it after installation. You will lose a lot of functionalities. There is TweakUI for 9x OS's which allows you you move/rename the folder and will sort out the registry accordingly. I have used it in the past to do the same thing with the My Documents folder. Is there something similar for Win2000 ? I dont know, but Im sure that there is a lot of OS tweaking software out there somewhere. HTH Dave ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest ** _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
RE: renaming Program Files folder [LIB]
Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2002 14:57:27 + From: Fubar Libretto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: renaming Program Files folder [LIB] A lot of system files are under Program Files folder. It's not a good idea to rename it after installation. You will lose a lot of functionalities. I don't understand this - what functionality would be lost, and why? --- There is TweakUI for 9x OS's which allows you you move/rename the folder and will sort out the registry accordingly. I have used it in the past to do the same thing with the My Documents folder. I used TweakUI to good effect for the My Documents tweak on my previous Win'98 setup, but it didn't offer me any Program Files options... I think it will let you rename My Documents but not Program files. Please let me know if I'm wrong. Is there something similar for Win2000 ? I dont know, but Im sure that there is a lot of OS tweaking software out there somewhere. I've already downloaded TweakUI 1.31 (Win'98/...Win'2K - www.microsoft.com) but not installed it yet. So far: upgraded IE5 to IE6; installed SP2; Windows 2000 Security Rollup Package (January 2002); and an IR driver update. In Win'98 TweakUI wound up in the Program Files folder, so I was going to leave it until after I'd made the Program Files folder naming decision... --- Nortons system utilities should work shouldnt it? No idea... what does it do? In any case, I don't have it - is it a must-have? Should I get it? _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: renaming Program Files folder [LIB]
Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 10:33:50 -0500 From: Lawrence Young [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: renaming Program Files folder [LIB] - Original Message - From: Fubar Libretto [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Libretto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 08, 2002 10:05 AM Subject: RE: renaming Program Files folder [LIB] Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2002 14:57:27 + From: Fubar Libretto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: renaming Program Files folder [LIB] A lot of system files are under Program Files folder. It's not a good idea to rename it after installation. You will lose a lot of functionalities. I don't understand this - what functionality would be lost, and why? A lot of shared system components are located in this folder. These components are usually registered in the registry. Unless you have tools to fix all those registry locations that point to this folder, you will have problems sooner or late. Components like OE, IE, ODBC drivers and OLEDB drivers used by various applications are located here. Usually you won't notice any problem immediately. But eventually you'll. This is the primary reason why Microsoft insists you to install dual boot Windows OS in two different partitions because otherwise components for different OSs will override each other in Program Files folder. I learnt it hard way. Foxbat ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: renaming Program Files folder [LIB]
Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2002 17:26:08 + From: Fubar Libretto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: renaming Program Files folder [LIB] A lot of system files are under Program Files folder. It's not a good idea to rename it after installation. You will lose a lot of functionalities. I don't understand this - what functionality would be lost, and why? A lot of shared system components are located in this folder. These components are usually registered in the registry. Unless you have tools to fix all those registry locations that point to this folder, you will have problems sooner or late. Those are the (registry etc) changes the various web pages discuss. Components like OE, IE, ODBC drivers and OLEDB drivers used by various applications are located here. Usually you won't notice any problem immediately. But eventually you'll. This is the primary reason why Microsoft insists you to install dual boot Windows OS in two different partitions because otherwise components for different OSs will override each other in Program Files folder. I learnt it hard way. I'm trying to get a handle on the issues... but I've no experience with dual-booting (then again I've no intention of having anything on this HDD other than Win'2K). Sounds like you had problems (ie that you learned the hard way from) - was that from renaming Program Files, or dual-booting, or both? _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
RE: renaming Program Files folder [LIB]
Date: Sat, 09 Mar 2002 08:54:09 +0800 From: Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: renaming Program Files folder [LIB] At 07:05 AM 8/03/2002 -0800, you wrote: Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2002 14:57:27 + From: Fubar Libretto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: renaming Program Files folder [LIB] A lot of system files are under Program Files folder. It's not a good idea to rename it after installation. You will lose a lot of functionalities. I don't understand this - what functionality would be lost, and why? Umm ... if you're only going to boot 1 OS then why do you need to rename program files? Win2k doesn't need to be in the first partition you know ... even if you remove whatever was there. - Raymond --- /~\ | | Does fuzzy logic tickle?| | ___ | My HDD has no reverse. How do I backup? | | /__/ +---| | / \ a y b o t | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | | HTTP://www.raybot.net| | ICQ: 31756092 | Need help? Visit #Windows98 on DALNet! | \~/ ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: renaming Program Files folder [LIB]
Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 20:50:08 -0500 (EST) From: Michael Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: renaming Program Files folder [LIB] I'm thinking about renaming Program Files to PRGFILES before I go further and start installing non-OE programs. Several web sites document the registry and related nitty-gritty, but others say it's better not to bother, citing that some (none MICROS~1 - LOL) programs may be hard-coded to look for PROGRA~1. Anybody else considered (or actually done) this? What is your goal? Mine was to keep the OS separate from the applications, so I created another Programs folder on a separate partition, into which I install all the programs that give me a choice of where to install. This would seem to address the issues you've mentioned. Mike ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: renaming Program Files folder [LIB]
Date: Sat, 09 Mar 2002 10:03:18 +0800 From: Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: renaming Program Files folder [LIB] At 05:50 PM 8/03/2002 -0800, you wrote: Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2002 20:44:58 -0500 From: David VanHorn [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: renaming Program Files folder [LIB] Mine was to keep the OS separate from the applications, so I created another Programs folder on a separate partition, into which I install all the programs that give me a choice of where to install. This would seem to address the issues you've mentioned. That's what I do as well. Windows, drivers, and system utils go in C, programs in D, and data in E. That way, I only back up E, everything else is re-installable, and the OS stuff is clearly delimited. If I loose D, I'm still up and running. Umm ... most things that'll destroy one partition will likely destroy the others too. That is things short of explicit formats and the like ... which are extremely unlikely to happen accidentally. Even if you irrecoverably lost D without affecting C, you'd likely need to reformat C as well anyway since many of your startup programs and reg entries won't be right anymore. I recommend that all programs for a particular OS be installed onto the same partition as that OS (except where space reasons such as the 8 gig boundary dictate that some things must be installed elsewhere) ... keeps things neat for dual boot setups and the like plus it gets around the inevitable problem of running out of space in one partition whilst having heaps in another (regardless of how well you plan your partitioning, that will ALWAYS happen, its an extension of Murphy's Law ;-) - Raymond --- /~\ | | Does fuzzy logic tickle?| | ___ | My HDD has no reverse. How do I backup? | | /__/ +---| | / \ a y b o t | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | | HTTP://www.raybot.net| | ICQ: 31756092 | Need help? Visit #Windows98 on DALNet! | \~/ ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: renaming Program Files folder [LIB]
Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2002 21:15:24 -0500 From: David VanHorn [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: renaming Program Files folder [LIB] Umm ... most things that'll destroy one partition will likely destroy the others too. That is things short of explicit formats and the like ... which are extremely unlikely to happen accidentally. Well, that's completely counter to my experience. ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: renaming Program Files folder [LIB]
Date: Sat, 09 Mar 2002 10:35:11 +0800 From: Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: renaming Program Files folder [LIB] At 06:22 PM 8/03/2002 -0800, you wrote: Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2002 21:15:24 -0500 From: David VanHorn [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: renaming Program Files folder [LIB] Umm ... most things that'll destroy one partition will likely destroy the others too. That is things short of explicit formats and the like ... which are extremely unlikely to happen accidentally. Well, that's completely counter to my experience. Well I'm thinking more of things like viruses, bad sectors, hardware failure and the like ... the effects of those things tend to extend past partition boundaries. What are you referring to? - Raymond --- /~\ | | Does fuzzy logic tickle?| | ___ | My HDD has no reverse. How do I backup? | | /__/ +---| | / \ a y b o t | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | | HTTP://www.raybot.net| | ICQ: 31756092 | Need help? Visit #Windows98 on DALNet! | \~/ ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: renaming Program Files folder [LIB]
Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2002 22:12:58 -0500 From: David VanHorn [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: renaming Program Files folder [LIB] Well I'm thinking more of things like viruses, bad sectors, hardware failure and the like ... the effects of those things tend to extend past partition boundaries. What are you referring to? Bad sectors happen where they happen, but every time I've seen them, they've been squarely in one partition or the other. Hard fails on the drive or controller take out the whole thing, so it doesn't matter where you had your data. The few times I've had the OS pee all over itself, the damage was always isolated to a partition, or at worst a couple partitions. Like the most recent event for me, when I converted my system to NTFS partitions. J-D went fine, but it ate the C partition. Again, everything else was fine. Some apps had to be reinstalled, some (like this email program) didn't. I didn't bother backing up C, since there wasn't anything on it that I couldn't reinstall easily. ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: renaming Program Files folder [LIB]
Date: Sat, 09 Mar 2002 11:36:30 +0800 From: Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: renaming Program Files folder [LIB] At 07:21 PM 8/03/2002 -0800, you wrote: Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2002 22:12:58 -0500 From: David VanHorn [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: renaming Program Files folder [LIB] Well I'm thinking more of things like viruses, bad sectors, hardware failure and the like ... the effects of those things tend to extend past partition boundaries. What are you referring to? Bad sectors happen where they happen, but every time I've seen them, they've been squarely in one partition or the other. I'm talking catastrophic bad sectors ... the ones that have a nasty habit of appearing right where your partition table was supposed to be (and for some reason its happened to me a few more times than is statistically possible) and having the net effect of ruining all your partitions. In-partition bad sectors are nothing ... heh Hard fails on the drive or controller take out the whole thing, so it doesn't matter where you had your data. My point exactly. The few times I've had the OS pee all over itself, the damage was always isolated to a partition, or at worst a couple partitions. Like the most recent event for me, when I converted my system to NTFS partitions. J-D went fine, but it ate the C partition. Again, everything else was fine. Some apps had to be reinstalled, some (like this email program) didn't. I didn't bother backing up C, since there wasn't anything on it that I couldn't reinstall easily. Gah! OK if you're into converting partitions back, forth, left, right, etc. then ya sure ... I just format a partition the way I want and leave it so I guess I don't have that problem ... heh Of course, if the OS pees all over itself then it won't help much that your apps are on D drive given you'll have to reformat and reinstall anyway. To be honest though, I don't even bother keeping my data separate nowadays (I do have a 'warehouse' partition where I keep my bulky junk like MP3s and movies and large apps) ... I just keep all the important stuff in certain folders and back them up regularly (c:\internet and c:\raywork typically). Everything else can disappear as far as I'm concerned ... I got a ghost baseline image on the opposite end of the disk that I can use to restore everything with (and a copy of that image on CD in case a virus wipes out the partition table). - Raymond --- /~\ | | Does fuzzy logic tickle?| | ___ | My HDD has no reverse. How do I backup? | | /__/ +---| | / \ a y b o t | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | | HTTP://www.raybot.net| | ICQ: 31756092 | Need help? Visit #Windows98 on DALNet! | \~/ ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
RE: renaming Program Files folder [LIB]
Date: Sat, 09 Mar 2002 03:44:19 + From: Fubar Libretto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: renaming Program Files folder [LIB] A lot of system files are under Program Files folder. It's not a good idea to rename it after installation. You will lose a lot of functionalities. I don't understand this - what functionality would be lost, and why? Umm ... if you're only going to boot 1 OS then why do you need to rename program files? Win2k doesn't need to be in the first partition you know ... even if you remove whatever was there. Well, I can't see the advantage in having a directory name with a space in it - seems plain daft to me, and as there were occasions with Win'98 when I'd wished it wasn't there, I figure now is the time to do something about it. Another reason is... From: Michael Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mine was to keep the OS separate from the applications, so I created another Programs folder on a separate partition, into which I install all the programs that give me a choice of where to install. This would seem to address the issues you've mentioned. So Michael - you actually have two? ie you didn't move/rename the original Program Files folder? From: David VanHorn [EMAIL PROTECTED] That's what I do as well. Windows, drivers, and system utils go in C, programs in D, and data in E. That way, I only back up E, everything else is re- installable, and the OS stuff is clearly delimited. If I loose D, I'm still up and running. Likewise David - you've still got the original Program Files folder, plus another, or you've moved and/or renamed the original? _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
RE: renaming Program Files folder [LIB]
Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2002 22:55:10 -0500 From: David VanHorn [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: renaming Program Files folder [LIB] Likewise David - you've still got the original Program Files folder, plus another, or you've moved and/or renamed the original? Yes, one in C, and one in D. The system dosen't seem confused about that at all. I've been doing it this way for at least the last five years, on 95, 98, ME, and now NT. If I get the portable version, I'll have the whole set: CE, ME, NT.. (prophetic, ain't it :) ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
