Re: Dlopening documentation

2004-03-13 Thread Gary V. Vaughan
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Bob Friesenhahn wrote:
| On Thu, 4 Mar 2004, Gary V. Vaughan wrote:
|
|I have a feeling that this is all done automatically by lt_dlopen.  If it
|isn't then it should be...
|
|Comments?
|
|
| It seems to me that this text covers the case when libltdl is not
| used.  It is possible to use modules built by libtool without using
| libltdl. :-)
Ah yes.  That makes sense.  I think the text as it stands is just plain
confusing.  I'll tweak it to make it clear that this stuff only applies to
riding dlopen() bareback... and that if you want to take the path of least
resistance lt_dlopen already does all that stuff for you.
Cheers,
Gary.
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Re: Dlopening documentation

2004-03-13 Thread Gary V. Vaughan
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Peter O'Gorman wrote:
| Last time I looked lt_dlopen did all of this.
Indeedy :-)

| It seems that we ought to recommend that libname.la be the filename
| passed to lt_dlopen(), things probably work best in that case, but hey,
| you're the one with author in your .sig :)
Agreed.  On both counts :-b

I'll make the association between the dlopen and lt_dlopen docs more explicit.

Cheers,
Gary.
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Re: Dlopening documentation

2004-03-11 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Thu, 4 Mar 2004, Gary V. Vaughan wrote:

 I have a feeling that this is all done automatically by lt_dlopen.  If it
 isn't then it should be...

 Comments?

It seems to me that this text covers the case when libltdl is not
used.  It is possible to use modules built by libtool without using
libltdl. :-)

Bob
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Re: Dlopening documentation

2004-03-11 Thread Peter O'Gorman
Gary V. Vaughan wrote:

The current libtool docs say:

@node Finding the dlname
@section Finding the correct name to dlopen
@cindex names of dynamic modules
@cindex dynamic modules, names
After a library has been linked with @samp{-module}, it can be dlopened.
Unfortunately, because of the variation in library names,
your package needs to determine the correct file to dlopen.
The most straightforward and flexible implementation is to determine the
name at runtime, by finding the installed @samp{.la} file, and searching
it for the following lines:
@example
# The name that we can @code{dlopen}.
dlname='@var{dlname}'
@end example
If @var{dlname} is empty, then the library cannot be dlopened.
Otherwise, it gives the dlname of the library.  So, if the library was
installed as @file{/usr/local/lib/libhello.la}, and the @var{dlname} was
@file{libhello.so.3}, then @file{/usr/local/lib/libhello.so.3} should be
dlopened.
If your program uses this approach, then it should search the
directories listed in the @[EMAIL PROTECTED]@code{LIBPATH}
on AIX, and @code{SHLIB_PATH} on HP-UX.} environment variable, as well as
the directory where libraries will eventually be installed.  Searching
this variable (or equivalent) will guarantee that your program can find
its dlopened modules, even before installation, provided you have linked
them using libtool.
I have a feeling that this is all done automatically by lt_dlopen.  If it
isn't then it should be...
Comments?
Last time I looked lt_dlopen did all of this.

It seems that we ought to recommend that libname.la be the filename 
passed to lt_dlopen(), things probably work best in that case, but hey, 
you're the one with author in your .sig :)

Peter
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Re: Dlopening documentation

2004-03-11 Thread Albert Chin
On Thu, Mar 04, 2004 at 06:29:16PM +, Gary V. Vaughan wrote:
 If @var{dlname} is empty, then the library cannot be dlopened.
 Otherwise, it gives the dlname of the library.  So, if the library was
 installed as @file{/usr/local/lib/libhello.la}, and the @var{dlname} was
 @file{libhello.so.3}, then @file{/usr/local/lib/libhello.so.3} should be
 dlopened.
 
 If your program uses this approach, then it should search the
 directories listed in the @[EMAIL PROTECTED]@code{LIBPATH}
 on AIX, and @code{SHLIB_PATH} on HP-UX.} environment variable, as well as
 the directory where libraries will eventually be installed.  Searching
 this variable (or equivalent) will guarantee that your program can find
 its dlopened modules, even before installation, provided you have linked
 them using libtool.
 
 
 I have a feeling that this is all done automatically by lt_dlopen.  If it
 isn't then it should be...

Yes, it should be. BTW, how do we handle the case where
need_lib_prefix!=no?

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Dlopening documentation

2004-03-07 Thread Gary V. Vaughan
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The current libtool docs say:

@node Finding the dlname
@section Finding the correct name to dlopen
@cindex names of dynamic modules
@cindex dynamic modules, names
After a library has been linked with @samp{-module}, it can be dlopened.
Unfortunately, because of the variation in library names,
your package needs to determine the correct file to dlopen.
The most straightforward and flexible implementation is to determine the
name at runtime, by finding the installed @samp{.la} file, and searching
it for the following lines:
@example
# The name that we can @code{dlopen}.
dlname='@var{dlname}'
@end example
If @var{dlname} is empty, then the library cannot be dlopened.
Otherwise, it gives the dlname of the library.  So, if the library was
installed as @file{/usr/local/lib/libhello.la}, and the @var{dlname} was
@file{libhello.so.3}, then @file{/usr/local/lib/libhello.so.3} should be
dlopened.
If your program uses this approach, then it should search the
directories listed in the @[EMAIL PROTECTED]@code{LIBPATH}
on AIX, and @code{SHLIB_PATH} on HP-UX.} environment variable, as well as
the directory where libraries will eventually be installed.  Searching
this variable (or equivalent) will guarantee that your program can find
its dlopened modules, even before installation, provided you have linked
them using libtool.
I have a feeling that this is all done automatically by lt_dlopen.  If it
isn't then it should be...
Comments?

Cheers,
Gary.
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