Re: [libvirt] Exposing qemu support for SDL via capabilities
On Fri, Jul 08, 2011 at 09:19:46AM -0500, Adam Litke wrote: Hi all, In order to nicely support domains that use qemu's SDL support, libvirt-cim is looking for a way to confirm if the underlying qemu emulator can support SDL. Libvirt already knows this information internally. It seems to me that the best way to provide this information is by reporting it as a guest feature via the capabilities API call. I was thinking the node '/capabilities/guest/features/sdl' could be added when qemu supports SDL. Is this a good idea? Yes no. I think in general it would be desirable to expose more info about supported features, but this is really opening a can of worms because figuring out just what info needs exposing in what format is non-trivial. Even QEMU itself still can't provide this info in any usable fashion, hence we're still parsing -help which really sucks. Just adding an '/sdl' element seems simple but I don't think it is a long term sustainable strategy. If we added info about all supported features to the capabilities XML, we will end up with an absolutely enourmous XML document that will no longer be practically useful to administrators because it will be 99% irrelevant info about devices hiding the 1% they really want about the supported virt options. So if we are to expose info about supported device model properties then I think it would have to be in a separate API / XML schema, and I think we want to get QEMU to provide the data in a more usable manner than currently. Daniel -- |: http://berrange.com -o-http://www.flickr.com/photos/dberrange/ :| |: http://libvirt.org -o- http://virt-manager.org :| |: http://autobuild.org -o- http://search.cpan.org/~danberr/ :| |: http://entangle-photo.org -o- http://live.gnome.org/gtk-vnc :| -- libvir-list mailing list libvir-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/libvir-list
[libvirt] Exposing qemu support for SDL via capabilities
Hi all, In order to nicely support domains that use qemu's SDL support, libvirt-cim is looking for a way to confirm if the underlying qemu emulator can support SDL. Libvirt already knows this information internally. It seems to me that the best way to provide this information is by reporting it as a guest feature via the capabilities API call. I was thinking the node '/capabilities/guest/features/sdl' could be added when qemu supports SDL. Is this a good idea? -- Adam Litke IBM Linux Technology Center -- libvir-list mailing list libvir-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/libvir-list
Re: [libvirt] Exposing qemu support for SDL via capabilities
On Fri, Jul 08, 2011 at 09:19:46AM -0500, Adam Litke wrote: Hi all, In order to nicely support domains that use qemu's SDL support, libvirt-cim is looking for a way to confirm if the underlying qemu emulator can support SDL. Libvirt already knows this information internally. It seems to me that the best way to provide this information is by reporting it as a guest feature via the capabilities API call. I was thinking the node '/capabilities/guest/features/sdl' could be added when qemu supports SDL. Is this a good idea? Seems like clearly a good idea to me. (Although I don't have to code it :-) Would it be worth having a separate graphics element underneath features, so the path would be /capabilities/guest/features/graphics/sdl ? Rich. -- Richard Jones, Virtualization Group, Red Hat http://people.redhat.com/~rjones libguestfs lets you edit virtual machines. Supports shell scripting, bindings from many languages. http://libguestfs.org -- libvir-list mailing list libvir-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/libvir-list
Re: [libvirt] Exposing qemu support for SDL via capabilities
On 07/08/2011 10:14 AM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: On Fri, Jul 08, 2011 at 09:19:46AM -0500, Adam Litke wrote: Hi all, In order to nicely support domains that use qemu's SDL support, libvirt-cim is looking for a way to confirm if the underlying qemu emulator can support SDL. Libvirt already knows this information internally. It seems to me that the best way to provide this information is by reporting it as a guest feature via the capabilities API call. I was thinking the node '/capabilities/guest/features/sdl' could be added when qemu supports SDL. Is this a good idea? Seems like clearly a good idea to me. (Although I don't have to code it :-) Don't worry :) I think we have a motivated party. Would it be worth having a separate graphics element underneath features, so the path would be /capabilities/guest/features/graphics/sdl ? I only think this would be needed if we are going to add other graphics-related features. Can you think of other features that would fit? I think libvirt always assumes some form of vnc support so there may not be a need to enumerate graphics types. We might want to advertise spice support, but that wouldn't fit strictly under graphics because spice affects much more than the graphics device. Is there a desire to eventually add support for enumerating the different models of devices that qemu can emulate? For example, [ne2k_pci, i82551, i82557b, i82559er, rtl8139, e1000, pcnet, virtio] for network models? If so, we may want to place this information in a more structured hierarchy /capabilities/guest/devices/net/models/. Either way, SDL support isn't part of the device model so it would probably make sense to place it directly under 'features' IMO. -- Adam Litke IBM Linux Technology Center -- libvir-list mailing list libvir-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/libvir-list
