Re: GPLv2 'web-app loophole'

2001-08-12 Thread Blake Cretney

On Wed, 8 Aug 2001 18:15:26 +0100
SamBC [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  -Original Message-
  From: Rod Dixon, J.D., LL.M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 
  This sounds like much ado about nothing. As is well-known,
  software is not
  an easy fit within copyright doctrine. I am unsure whether there
is a
  relevant distinction between use and copy as far as software is
  concerned.
  Copyright interests are invoked when one uses software as long
as the
  prevailing view is that a RAM copy is a *copy* as that terms is
  defined and
  understood by reference to the Copyright Act. Hence, I doubt
  whether an ASP
  or a web-app presents a case for a loophole in the GPL.
 
 My understanding was that copyright law allows that copying
'necessary for
 normal use' is not considered copying under copyright law.
 
 IANAL, but I'm sure I read this somewhere (in a legal document or
quotation,
 IIRC)
 
 SamBC

Here is the section of the US copyright act, seemingly dealing with
this issue.

--
117.(a) MAKING AN ADDITIONAL COPY OR ADAPTATION BY OWNER OF COPY --
Notwithstanding the provisions of section 106, it is not an
infringement for the owner of a copy of a computer program to make or
authorize the making of another copy or adaptation of that computer
program provided:

(1) that such a new copy or adaptation is created as an essential step
in the utilization of the computer program in conjunction with a
machine and that it is used in no other manner, or
--

I'm not a lawyer.  Judicial interpretation takes precedence over
legislated law, so this provision may no longer have any affect.  Note
that this section doesn't actually contradict the theory that a RAM
copy is a copy under the act.  It doesn't say that a RAM copy isn't a
copy under the act, it just seems to say that it is a legal copy, if
it is essential to the utilization of the program ...

Also, presumably, this doesn't apply if the software user doesn't own
the copy.  License agreements often claim this kind of thing.  The GPL
does not, though (seemingly).

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Blake Cretney



Public Domain and liability

2000-08-07 Thread Blake Cretney


One reason people don't often release software to the public domain is
fear of liability.  The concern is that even if you place a
disclaimer on the software, someone could legally distribute your
software without the disclaimer.  Then, if the software fails in some
way, you could be sued as the manufacturer of defective software.

Now, to me, this sounds crazy.  However, I'm not a lawyer, and often
legal decisions leave me amazed.  Has anyone ever been sued,
especially successfully, for a non-malicious public domain program? 
Does anyone have any comment on whether this is likely to happen? 

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Blake Cretney