Re: FW: NASM Licence

2000-10-19 Thread kmself

On Tue, Oct 17, 2000 at 11:44:54PM -0500, Nelson Rush ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 Good points.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: David Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2000 11:20 PM
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 Subject: RE: NASM Licence
 
 
 On Tue, 17 Oct 2000, you wrote:
  I think Julian agreed to dual licensing without knowing he was agreeing to
  it. Which leaves us at a strange impasse. Simon on the other hand has no
  problem with it being dual licensed.
 
 My first reading of it seemed to say that it only "declared" GPL
 compatibility, and if there were any problematic clauses or phrases, to be
 interpreted on the side of compatibility. But I can easily see the other
 side.
 
 I still think that Debian is wrong in relicensing it under the GPL.

This brings up the question of what "GPL compatibility" is.

If license A says that license B can be applied to software P,

and License B says that License B requires all, and only, those terms
which are part of License B,

then does License A implicitly grant or authorize relicensing of code
under License B if it states compatibility?

This appears to be the reasoning applied by Debian, and would be an
argument I'd make.  

The NASM license is unfortunately vague in this regard.  It may be the
legal equivalent of Epimedes' Paradox, which IMO is a Bad ThingĀ®.
Clauses VII and X appear to be mutually incompatible, unless VII implies
that relicensing under GPL per X is specifically allowed.

 Copyright law does not grant the recipient the right to relicense. And
 neither does the NASM license grant that right, the opposite in fact
 according to clause VII.  I would need something a little stronger
 than clause X before I assumed I had the right to alter the author's
 license. Considering that the authors are not in agreement, I'll
 gladly err on the side of caution.

ObligLarryRosenPacifier:  I am not a lawyer, this is not legal advice.

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FW: NASM Licence

2000-10-17 Thread Nelson Rush

Good points.

-Original Message-
From: David Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2000 11:20 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: NASM Licence


On Tue, 17 Oct 2000, you wrote:
 I think Julian agreed to dual licensing without knowing he was agreeing to
 it. Which leaves us at a strange impasse. Simon on the other hand has no
 problem with it being dual licensed.

My first reading of it seemed to say that it only "declared" GPL
compatibility, and if there were any problematic clauses or phrases, to be
interpreted on the side of compatibility. But I can easily see the other
side.

I still think that Debian is wrong in relicensing it under the GPL.
Copyright
law does not grant the recipient the right to relicense. And neither does
the
NASM license grant that right, the opposite in fact according to clause VII.
I would need something a little stronger than clause X before I assumed I
had
the right to alter the author's license. Considering that the authors are
not
in agreement, I'll gladly err on the side of caution.

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David Johnson
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