License Reviews

2000-11-29 Thread Lawrence E. Rosen

This email is in response to a current thread about the modification of
existing licenses.

Currently, OSI must approve even minor changes in previously-approved
licenses.  The Board of Directors is considering new procedures to help
everyone avoid such time-consuming reviews.  An announcement about new
procedures will be sent out shortly.

Despite Karsten Self's comment to the effect that he and I are arguing about
the proliferation of licenses, that isn't quite accurate.  Like most people
working within OSI, I share his concern that most proposed licenses (and
there are more than 54 "proposed licenses" still on OSI's list awaiting
review!) offer little new to the open source community.  This doesn't mean
that I agree with him that the open source world is ready for an "emergent
standard" license (e.g., in Karsten's list, GPL, BSD/MIT, or MozPL).  Even
the renowned GPL has gone through several revisions with another one
reportedly in development.  I hope the open source community can help
encourage creative thinking in licensing, just as it encourages creative
thinking in software development, without settling too early on a
"standard."

OSI is currently soliciting funding to sponsor a conference on open source
and free software licensing, directed primarily toward lawyers and licensing
professionals, so that some of these issues can be addressed in a methodical
and careful way.  Please send me your suggestions for topics to be addressed
at such a conference -- and if you represent a company or organization that
would like to contribute toward this conference, please call me!

/Larry Rosen
Executive Director, OSI
650-216-1597
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.rosenlaw.com
www.opensource.org



 on Wed, Nov 29, 2000 at 07:24:27AM -0800, Adam C. Engst
 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
  At 6:13 PM -0800 11/28/00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  It's been part of my argument with Larry Rosen WRT the Jabber License.
While
  I agree with him in being able to move beyond the current state of art
  in licensing, rather than being stuck with static terms dictated by
  another party, I still have very strong misgivings over license
  proliferation.
  
  Fortunately, the practice appears to be fading somewhat, and projects
  which have adopted distinctive licenses are either fading or adopting
  one of the emergent standards (GPL, BSD/MIT, or MozPL).
 
   From this, it would seem that you're saying my concern over making
  necessary modifications to a license is well-founded, and most open
  source projects are dealing with it by adopting one of the licenses
  that explicitly tries to be general. I guess my question remains,
  though. If you do need to make any changes at all, is it true that
  OSI needs to re-certify the result?

 OSI would have to answer that, my understanding is that they do.
 However, for modifications which are restricted to simple substitutions
 in well-established licenses, this review is easier, if not expedited.




Re: License Reviews

2000-11-29 Thread Ian Lance Taylor

   From: "Lawrence E. Rosen" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 11:47:04 -0800

   I hope the open source community can help
   encourage creative thinking in licensing, just as it encourages creative
   thinking in software development, without settling too early on a
   "standard."

I think it really depends upon what the goals of the licensor are.

If the goal is to experiment with licensing strategy, or to put code
out there to claim for PR purposes, that's fine.

If the goal is to get people to contribute to the project, then the
licensor should pick a well known license.  A weirdo license is a big
barrier.

I believe OSI could help by providing information explaining license
tradeoffs to people considering releasing open source code.  I
couldn't find anything on that topic in a quick search of the
opensource.org web site.

(Actually, I don't think the opensource.org web site is very well
organized.  There is too much text, and no table of contents.  There
is no obvious way to search it.  Also, there isn't much you can do
about this, but I often forget and go to www.osi.org first, which I
always find amusing.)

Ian