Re: Fwd: Apple GCC source code license (APSL)

2003-01-28 Thread David Johnson
On Monday 27 January 2003 11:33 pm, James Michael DuPont wrote:

 The cvs does require accepting the license hence my question.

I think that's because the repository has code under multiple licenses, one of 
which is the APSL. They aren't claiming that everything in that repository is 
under the APSL, only that you need to join an APSL Club to see it. If you 
don't join that club, you can get the same GPL code elsewhere on the same 
site. Besides which, implementing a click-through on just parts of a 
repository would be a royal pain in the arse.

 so there is no problem in republishing the sources directly under the
 gpl?

If the license says GPL then follow the GPL to your hearts content. Publish 
away.

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Re: Fwd: Apple GCC source code license (APSL)

2003-01-28 Thread Andy Tai
After a try more than 10 years ago, Steve Jobs does
not dare to do it again.


--- James Michael DuPont [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 I have a question about the APSL :
 http://www.opensource.apple.com/apsl/

 So, that means that the gcc changes are no longer
 under the gpl, but
 under the APSL?
 
 I have downloaded the cvs of the gcc from apple, can
 I create and
 distribute it under the GPL? or only under the APSL?
  
 mike
 
 
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Re: Fwd: Apple GCC source code license (APSL)

2003-01-28 Thread James Michael DuPont
David,
thanks for you comments and help.

Not understanding too much about lawyer, I get easily confused by these
issues.

Thanks again,
mike

--- David Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Monday 27 January 2003 11:33 pm, James Michael DuPont wrote:
 
  The cvs does require accepting the license hence my question.
 
 I think that's because the repository has code under multiple
 licenses, one of 
 which is the APSL. They aren't claiming that everything in that
 repository is 
 under the APSL, only that you need to join an APSL Club to see it.
 If you 
 don't join that club, you can get the same GPL code elsewhere on the
 same 
 site. Besides which, implementing a click-through on just parts of a 
 repository would be a royal pain in the arse.
 
  so there is no problem in republishing the sources directly under
 the
  gpl?
 
 If the license says GPL then follow the GPL to your hearts content.
 Publish 
 away.
 
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Re: Fwd: Apple GCC source code license (APSL)

2003-01-27 Thread David Johnson
On Monday 27 January 2003 10:17 pm, you wrote:
 I have a question about the APSL :
 http://www.opensource.apple.com/apsl/

 The modifications to the gcc source are only available to you if you
 agree to this click-through license.

Are you sure? I just went there an tried to download their gcc and was never 
presented with any license. There is some stuff that requires a valid APSL 
registration, but gcc and gcc3 are not among them.  See the page 
http://www.opensource.apple.com/projects/darwin/6.0/projects.html.

One thing that *might* be problematic is that CVSWeb requires this same 
registration. But an APSL agreement and registration to access their central 
source control repository is a much different thing than having to register 
to get original and derived GPL code. As near as I can tell, all of their 
original and derived GPL code does not require this registration to access.

Not a problem, IHMO.

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Re: Fwd: Apple GCC source code license (APSL)

2003-01-27 Thread James Michael DuPont

--- David Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Monday 27 January 2003 10:17 pm, you wrote:
  I have a question about the APSL :
  http://www.opensource.apple.com/apsl/
 
  The modifications to the gcc source are only available to you if
 you
  agree to this click-through license.
 
 Are you sure? I just went there an tried to download their gcc and
 was never 
 presented with any license. There is some stuff that requires a
 valid APSL 
 registration, but gcc and gcc3 are not among them.  See the page 
 http://www.opensource.apple.com/projects/darwin/6.0/projects.html.
 
 One thing that *might* be problematic is that CVSWeb requires this
 same 
 registration. But an APSL agreement and registration to access their
 central 
 source control repository is a much different thing than having to
 register 
 to get original and derived GPL code. As near as I can tell, all of
 their 
 original and derived GPL code does not require this registration to
 access.
 
 Not a problem, IHMO.

Here is the tar file, yes, that is available without registration:
http://www.opensource.apple.com/projects/darwin/6.0/source/other/gcc3-1151.tar.gz

The cvs does require accepting the license hence my question.

Thanks,
so there is no problem in republishing the sources directly under the
gpl?


btw: 
http://introspector.sourceforge.net/2003/01/28/rtl.i/apple-gcc-rtl.gz
contains a 800k tar of the modified apple gcc sources in RDF format via
the introspector.

mike

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