Re: Fwd: Apple GCC source code license (APSL)
On Monday 27 January 2003 11:33 pm, James Michael DuPont wrote: The cvs does require accepting the license hence my question. I think that's because the repository has code under multiple licenses, one of which is the APSL. They aren't claiming that everything in that repository is under the APSL, only that you need to join an APSL Club to see it. If you don't join that club, you can get the same GPL code elsewhere on the same site. Besides which, implementing a click-through on just parts of a repository would be a royal pain in the arse. so there is no problem in republishing the sources directly under the gpl? If the license says GPL then follow the GPL to your hearts content. Publish away. -- David Johnson ___ http://www.usermode.org pgp public key on website -- license-discuss archive is at http://crynwr.com/cgi-bin/ezmlm-cgi?3
Re: Fwd: Apple GCC source code license (APSL)
After a try more than 10 years ago, Steve Jobs does not dare to do it again. --- James Michael DuPont [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a question about the APSL : http://www.opensource.apple.com/apsl/ So, that means that the gcc changes are no longer under the gpl, but under the APSL? I have downloaded the cvs of the gcc from apple, can I create and distribute it under the GPL? or only under the APSL? mike = James Michael DuPont http://introspector.sourceforge.net/ __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com -- license-discuss archive is at http://crynwr.com/cgi-bin/ezmlm-cgi?3 -- license-discuss archive is at http://crynwr.com/cgi-bin/ezmlm-cgi?3
Re: Fwd: Apple GCC source code license (APSL)
David, thanks for you comments and help. Not understanding too much about lawyer, I get easily confused by these issues. Thanks again, mike --- David Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday 27 January 2003 11:33 pm, James Michael DuPont wrote: The cvs does require accepting the license hence my question. I think that's because the repository has code under multiple licenses, one of which is the APSL. They aren't claiming that everything in that repository is under the APSL, only that you need to join an APSL Club to see it. If you don't join that club, you can get the same GPL code elsewhere on the same site. Besides which, implementing a click-through on just parts of a repository would be a royal pain in the arse. so there is no problem in republishing the sources directly under the gpl? If the license says GPL then follow the GPL to your hearts content. Publish away. -- David Johnson ___ http://www.usermode.org pgp public key on website = James Michael DuPont http://introspector.sourceforge.net/ __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com -- license-discuss archive is at http://crynwr.com/cgi-bin/ezmlm-cgi?3
Re: Fwd: Apple GCC source code license (APSL)
On Monday 27 January 2003 10:17 pm, you wrote: I have a question about the APSL : http://www.opensource.apple.com/apsl/ The modifications to the gcc source are only available to you if you agree to this click-through license. Are you sure? I just went there an tried to download their gcc and was never presented with any license. There is some stuff that requires a valid APSL registration, but gcc and gcc3 are not among them. See the page http://www.opensource.apple.com/projects/darwin/6.0/projects.html. One thing that *might* be problematic is that CVSWeb requires this same registration. But an APSL agreement and registration to access their central source control repository is a much different thing than having to register to get original and derived GPL code. As near as I can tell, all of their original and derived GPL code does not require this registration to access. Not a problem, IHMO. -- David Johnson ___ http://www.usermode.org pgp public key on website -- license-discuss archive is at http://crynwr.com/cgi-bin/ezmlm-cgi?3
Re: Fwd: Apple GCC source code license (APSL)
--- David Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday 27 January 2003 10:17 pm, you wrote: I have a question about the APSL : http://www.opensource.apple.com/apsl/ The modifications to the gcc source are only available to you if you agree to this click-through license. Are you sure? I just went there an tried to download their gcc and was never presented with any license. There is some stuff that requires a valid APSL registration, but gcc and gcc3 are not among them. See the page http://www.opensource.apple.com/projects/darwin/6.0/projects.html. One thing that *might* be problematic is that CVSWeb requires this same registration. But an APSL agreement and registration to access their central source control repository is a much different thing than having to register to get original and derived GPL code. As near as I can tell, all of their original and derived GPL code does not require this registration to access. Not a problem, IHMO. Here is the tar file, yes, that is available without registration: http://www.opensource.apple.com/projects/darwin/6.0/source/other/gcc3-1151.tar.gz The cvs does require accepting the license hence my question. Thanks, so there is no problem in republishing the sources directly under the gpl? btw: http://introspector.sourceforge.net/2003/01/28/rtl.i/apple-gcc-rtl.gz contains a 800k tar of the modified apple gcc sources in RDF format via the introspector. mike = James Michael DuPont http://introspector.sourceforge.net/ __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com -- license-discuss archive is at http://crynwr.com/cgi-bin/ezmlm-cgi?3